Islamabad threatens to back off from Afghan reconciliation process

[Pomegranate]

Islamabad threatens to back off from Afghan reconciliation process

PHOTO: REUTERS

KARACHI: Pakistan is learnt to have conveyed to the United States that it will call off its efforts in the Afghan reconciliation process if the Trump administration does not change its new policy of intimidation and coercion towards Islamabad.

It has been conveyed to the US administration through diplomatic channels that Pakistan will set its strategy for a peaceful Afghanistan in view of its national security policy, sources told Daily Express.

The civil and military leadership has expressed serious reservations over the new US policy on Afghanistan.

“Consultations at the highest levels concluded that Pakistan will not give in to any American pressure or demands,” sources said, adding that senior federal authorities have voiced their reservations.

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It has been conveyed to the Trump administration that Pakistan has achieved 100% results in its military operations against terrorists of all hue and colour and will continue doing so until the last terrorist is eliminated.

According to sources, Pakistan has told US Ambassador David Hale that neither was Islamabad dependent on Washington for its defence system nor did its economy need American financial assistance.

They said that Pakistan had started approaching its allies, including China, Russia and other countries to muster support in the face of the new US policy. Beijing has assured Islamabad that it will veto any possible resolution in the UN Security Council by the US.

Sources also said that Islamabad has set its own strategy to deal with the new US strategy. Pakistan, they said, has warned the US of possible pull-out from the Afghan reconciliation process if Washington didn’t change its approach.

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“If the US adopts a balanced policy, Pakistan will also establish good relations with the Trump administration, otherwise Pakistan can review its relations on all issues,” they added.

According to an important source, the US administration has started discussions on the policy in light of Pakistan’s reaction.

Foreign Minister Khawja Asif’s visit to the US will be vital in the context as the minister has been tasked to state Pakistan’s stance to the Trump administration.

US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson had earlier this month invited Asif to Washington. The invitation was extended by the secretary of state during a telephone conversation with Asif.

Reciprocating the gesture, Asif also extended an invitation to Secretary Tillerson to visit Pakistan. Tillerson, according to the Foreign Office, accepted the invitation.

Sources said the federal government would set its policy at the National Security Committee meeting today (Thursday).

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1489586/dealing-trump-pakistan-plays-trump-card/

 

[Secur]

"Kabul must burn" policy, again?

Its good to back off for the time being, lets see how the Govt of the Presidential Palace performs in the negotiations now! They already didn't want us on board, let them wake up and smell the coffee. Another message should be conveyed to the USA, this time about "supply lines". It might do the trick and render all this ridiculous chest thumping and policy of confrontation, void.

“Consultations at the highest levels concluded that Pakistan will not give in to any American pressure or demands,” sources said, adding that senior federal authorities have voiced their reservations.

I hope that they would match the statements with the above described attitude and stance also. But then again, actions always speak louder than words. The official narrative isn't important, in certain cases.

 

[shahbaz baig]

Pakistan also should counter the biased allegations by trump.

April 24, 2017
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02 AUGUST 2017
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22 AUGUST 2017, U.S blame on Pakistan about Destabilizing Afghanistan. Wow

it clearly shows U.S frustration & trying to find out the scapegoats deliberately.

just look at this pic. which shows that it's Afghanistan, providing safe heavens to terrorists.



Pakistan already eradicated the safe heavens for terrorists in Pakistan. and terrorists have moved to Afghanistan, which U.S delectably is not trying to understand.

it's U.S.A who supports Taliban offices in Qatar (financial network) and on the other hands U.S is teaching a lesson to fight against terrorism. (hypocrisy). Taliban Controls more then half of Afghanistan territory, is this Pakistan fault ?? Afghan Generals are involved in corruption and many U.S soldiers have been killed by afghan soldiers. is this Pakistan fault ?? Pakistan successfully operated against terrorists, and terrorists have moved to Afghanistan, there is no safe heaven in Pakistan for terrorists which U.S is not willing to understand. is this Pakistan fault ?? U.S blame on Pakistan about cross border terrorism and when Pakistan says why not secure the afg-pak border (Durand Line) instead of wasting billions but U.S is not interested to secure the border. is this Pakistan fault ??

Here is Pakistan fault
Pakistan supported U.S in this U.S created mess, war & terror in Afghanistan.
Pakistan wasted more then 80$ billions in this long 16 years of war and U.S paid 14$ billions to Pakistan yet.

why does not India send the troops to fight against Taliban ? we really wanna see what India can achieve which U.S has failed to achieve in 17 years. but now Pakistan should not fight for U.S anymore.

 

[AZ1]

why does not India send the troops to fight against Taliban ? we really wanna see what India can achieve which U.S has failed to achieve in 17 years. but now Pakistan should not fight for U.S anymore.

Indian troops will do nothing except turning Afghanistan street into toilet. They can't fight taliban there otherwise India will burn for sure and all will be targeting India then india will blame to Pakistan, just like Kashmir situation. So see, when you can't handle the situation, just blame others.

 

[war&peace]

Excellent. Pakistan is realising its self-importance gradually and revealings its cards. Let's see how they fare with Islamabad not onboard. As said, Pakistan must support the groups/individuals that are pro-Pakistan or fighting with the anti-Pakistani NDS, RAW, ISIS and others. Every state has to guard its interests so why should Pakistan be an exception.

 

[WhyCry]

The only thing they bring to the board was to get the talks going but they are a failure in the same.

I am not sure why they deserve even a seat on the table. Their policy is not even to be clear to themselves.

Mods @TheEagle @waz @WebMaster

how many more nonsense posts will this man be allowed to make. check his previous posts nothing but a cheap troll

Its a fair question. Just to make it more palatable--> what role will pakistan play on the big table when taliban can't be brought on the talks. This was the only promise that pakistan made so that conversation can become a part of the talks.

I understand that pakistan should be a party in Afghan peace talks but my view on their role is very different.

 

[Sully3]

Its a fair question. Just to make it more palatable--> what role will pakistan play on the big table when taliban can't be brought on the talks. This was the only promise that pakistan made so that conversation can become a part of the talks.

I understand that pakistan should be a party in Afghan peace talks but my view on their role is very different.

Well if thats the case why is Trump jumping up and down for Pakistans help to do more.

 

[AZ1]

The only thing they bring to the board was to get the talks going but they are a failure in the same.

I am not sure why they deserve even a seat on the table. Their policy is not even to be clear to themselves.


Its a fair question. Just to make it more palatable--> what role will pakistan play on the big table when taliban can't be brought on the talks. This was the only promise that pakistan made so that conversation can become a part of the talks.

I understand that Pakistan should be a party in Afghan peace talks but my view on their role is very different.

And what India has played so far or will gonna play that he should be invited in Afghanistan? Your air corridor became air of a balloon nothing much. Now tell me what you guys gonna do send troop to Afghanistan? Do you have that much guts? or just come online on PDF and try to make this place like India?

There was a story, A person who touches anything turn that into gold and here we have Indians who touches gold and turn them into dust lol.

 

[Rollno21]

Well if thats the case why is Trump jumping up and down for Pakistans help to do more.

You dint see his full speech I guess,he said do more to stop using Pakistani soil by taliban and have safe heavens in Pakistan.

And what India has played so far or will gonna play that he should be invited in Afghanistan? Your air corridor became air of a balloon nothing much. Now tell me what you guys gonna do send troop to Afghanistan? Do you have that much guts? or just come online on PDF and try to make this place like India?

There was a story, A person who touches anything turn that into gold and here we have Indians who touches gold and turn them into dust lol.

If you see the full speech by Trump he dsnt want Indian troops ,he wants India to do more development work what we are already doing

 

[Sully3]

You dint see his full speech I guess,he said do more to stop using Pakistani soil by taliban and have safe heavens in Pakistan.

i did this narrative has been around for 15 years, it goes in one ear out of the other.

America is burning from the inside Trump going to war with Pakistan will be hilarious, when he can't even thread Kim in North Korea

 

[Rollno21]

i did this narrative has been around for 15 years, it goes in one ear out of the other.

America is burning from the inside Trump going to war with Pakistan will be hilarious, when he can't even thread Kim in North Korea

So you think there are no safe heavens in Pakistan ?
I am not sure what us will achieve by attacking NK other than military bases near to China ,On the other hand NK keeps Japan SK near to USA .
You can believe what ever you want about how powerful Pakistan is but as far as others are concerned it just took a phone call for them to make Pakistan fall in line .

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

what is the point of pakistani involvement

Fair Question Answer below.

Its a fair question. Just to make it more palatable--> what role will pakistan play on the big table when taliban can't be brought on the talks. This was the only promise that pakistan made so that conversation can become a part of the talks.

The Afghan Govt and Taliban were very close to a deal. There were individuals who were negotiating on behalf of the Taliban. But it was released that Mullah Omar was dead. Pissing off the entirety of the group. The ensuing infighting resulting in a new die hard leadership. And the individuals, still alive, who were open to talks to begin being killed.

Any peace in Afghanistan requires Pakistan. There's no treaty in the world that demands landlocked nations have access to ports, if Afghanistan wants to develop it will need access to ports, other than going to Iran.

 

[HRK]

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/aam-guftagu.85986/page-374#post-9576290

"Kabul must burn" policy, again?

Its good to back off for the time being, lets see how the Govt of the Presidential Palace performs in the negotiations now! They already didn't want us on board, let them wake up and smell the coffee. Another message should be conveyed to the USA, this time about "supply lines". It might do the trick and render all this ridiculous chest thumping and policy of confrontation, void.

 

[AZ1]

You dint see his full speech I guess,he said do more to stop using Pakistani soil by taliban and have safe heavens in Pakistan.


If you see the full speech by Trump he dsnt want Indian troops ,he wants India to do more development work what we are already doing

Wow, lol India can't do development in his own country and you will do development work outside India?. One thing I must admit, trump is good at selling. He knows, if he wants to sell anything to India 2 thing he must do. 1) Blame Pakistan 2) Praise India for their low quality to nothing work.

 

[Sully3]

So you think there are no safe heavens in Pakistan ?
I am not sure what us will achieve by attacking NK other than military bases near to China ,On the other hand NK keeps Japan SK near to USA .
You can believe what ever you want about how powerful Pakistan is but as far as others are concerned it just took a phone call for them to make Pakistan fall in line .

hahahahah

you are a funny guy, pakistan doesn't fall in line when america wants we have our own national interests and will continue to support them regardless of what uncle sam thinks just like we have been doing since 2001.