ISIS Terrorist's Plotting Attacks in Turkey

[xenon54 out]

lol , you are done !!

next !

Im the next.

Lets continue, Turkey is going to train Peshmerga and FSA, booth are fighting isis, it still debunks your claims.

 

[haman10]

FSA, booth are fighting isis, it still debunks your claims

you train F$A and arm ISIS , US trains Pishmarga and F$A .

and F$A is almost the same as ISIS

@Syrian Lion enlighten my son here with your enlightening videos

 

[xenon54 out]

you train F$A and arm ISIS , US trains Pishmarga and F$A .

and F$A is almost the same as ISIS

@Syrian Lion enlighten my son here with your enlightening videos

FSA almost the same but they are fighting eachother? I thought Turkey was supporting isis? Why are they training and arming people who are fighting Isis?

Are you confused enough? Might be a too complex issue for you even thought it makes perfectly sense to me but we cant expect the same performance from everyone i guess.

Haha need help already? Syrian Lion is going to post same old crap that he posted at least 10 times, it still doesnt make it true.

 

[1000]

FSA almost the same but they are fighting eachother? I thought Turkey was supporting isis? Why are they training and arming people who are fighting Isis?

Erdogan used to support ISIS earlier but now they're going against his interests

 

[xenon54 out]

Erdogan used to support ISIS earlier but now they're going against his interests

I was asking myself when the first one is going to claim this, Turkey was one of the first countrys that striked isis, long before coalition or any other state other than Syria and Iraq.

Already forgot?

Turkish forces 'strike ISIL convoy in Syria'

 

[1000]

I was asking myself when the first one is going to claim this, Turkey was one of the first countrys that striked isis, long before coalition or any other state other than Syria and Iraq.

Already forgot?

Turkish forces 'strike ISIL convoy in Syria'

Striking ISIS doesn't prove anything, they're animals which can be useful but they remain animals which you can't trust.

Turkey served as the gateway for global Jihadists to enter Syria. The foreigners that have ended up in Syria and Iraq are came through Turkey, their quantity makes it impossible that those all slipped through border security. Turkey has control over it's borders and they allowed them in. No Jihadists entered Syria through Jordan which is far less militarily advanced than Turkey.

Hear it from Biden himself.

You all forget, Erdogan is ruling Turkey, he's an Islamist allied to Qatar which has been accused often of funding ISIS by many including the German minister and General Dempsey. State media of Qatar, Al Jazeera ( the Arabic version ) is the propaganda machine of ISIS, they call their suicide bombings martyrdom operations. Egypt just accused Qatar of funding terrorism.

Just because Turkey has struck ISIS and ISIS has kidnapped Turks proves nothing, if Turkey let them through and helped them it doesn't have to mean that Turkey and ISIS are allies. ISIS like groups are animals which can be useful for you only if they don't attack you but attack your enemy ( Syria under Bashar for Erdogan/PKK ) that's what the ties have been like. This open border policy of Turkey has been going on for several years say 2011. ISIS has grown quickly in Syria since, they took control of Al Raqqa only a year and several months ago. Now they're of no benefit anymore, they've destroyed the FSA in Eastern Syria and the entire revolutionary dream among locals more than anyone else could, the group has become a threat even for Turkey therefor they've changed their stance towards ISIS. But that doesn't change Erdogan's history of supporting them previously.

Currently he's playing another game in Egypt ignoring the terrorist groups over there and promoting uprisings. He's gone on a path not any different than post 1979 Iran. If we look at history Saudis used to sponsor the same kind of group to fight Soviets, Pakistan as well. Both have been attacked by them in return. Pakistan suffering till this day by a group with a similar ideology to TTP they used to support against Soviets. Politicians play dirty games after all, we've seen this done by many in the ME and elsewhere. Syria under Bashar pre 2010 used to help ISI ( Islamic state Iraq back then ) in Iraq, it backfired eventually. This thread is news about ISIS threat in Turkey, same backfiring is always possible through bombings esp. for neighbors.

I'm saying this as this is what it looks like to me, not out of any emotions. If someone can show me wrong i'd be glad to learn.

 

[xenon54 out]

Striking ISIS doesn't prove anything, they're animals which can be useful but they remain animals which you can't trust.

Turkey served as the gateway for global Jihadists to enter Syria. The foreigners that have ended up in Syria and Iraq are came through Turkey, their quantity makes it impossible that those all slipped through border security. Turkey has control over it's borders and they allowed them in. No Jihadists entered Syria through Jordan which is far less militarily advanced than Turkey.

Hear it from Biden himself.

You all forget, Erdogan is ruling Turkey, he's an Islamist allied to Qatar which has been accused often of funding ISIS by many including the German minister and General Dempsey. State media of Qatar, Al Jazeera ( the Arabic version ) is the propaganda machine of ISIS, they call their suicide bombings martyrdom operations. Egypt just accused Qatar of funding terrorism.

Just because Turkey has struck ISIS and ISIS has kidnapped Turks proves nothing, if Turkey let them through and helped them it doesn't have to mean that Turkey and ISIS are allies. ISIS like groups are animals which can be useful for you only if they don't attack you but attack your enemy ( Syria under Bashar for Erdogan/PKK ) that's what the ties have been like. This open border policy of Turkey has been going on for several years say 2011. ISIS has grown quickly in Syria since, they took control of Al Raqqa only a year and several months ago. Now they're of no benefit anymore, they've destroyed the FSA in Eastern Syria and the entire revolutionary dream among locals more than anyone else could, the group has become a threat even for Turkey therefor they've changed their stance towards ISIS. But that doesn't change Erdogan's history of supporting them previously.

Currently he's playing another game in Egypt ignoring the terrorist groups over there and promoting uprisings. He's gone on a path not any different than post 1979 Iran. If we look at history Saudis used to sponsor the same kind of group to fight Soviets, Pakistan as well. Both have been attacked by them in return. Pakistan suffering till this day by a group with a similar ideology to TTP they used to support against Soviets. Politicians play dirty games after all, we've seen this done by many in the ME and elsewhere. Syria under Bashar pre 2010 used to help ISI ( Islamic state Iraq back then ) in Iraq, it backfired eventually. This thread is news about ISIS threat in Turkey, same backfiring is always possible through bombings esp. for neighbors.

I'm saying this as this is what it looks like to me, not out of any emotions. If someone can show me wrong i'd be glad to learn.

Look im really tired of the same thing over and over again, you guys are a couple people who are warming up the same old dish and serve it over and over again, everything in your post was discussed but we are at the same point as a year ago, is it so hard to serve one single hard evidence instead of hundreds of empty claims?

And stop posting the BS of Biden he is one of those political clowns known for their stupid phrases, he at least apologized the next day.

 

[1000]

Look im really tired of the same thing over and over again, you guys are a couple people who are warming up the same old dish and serve it over and over again, everthing in your post was discussed but we are at the same point as a year ago, is it so hard to serve one single hard evidence instead of hundreds of empty claims?

And stop posting the BS of Biden he is one of those political clowns known for their stupid phrases, he at least apologized the next day.

That is evidence, you're defending a retard Islamist here you're not defending Turkey. His acts are no secret and i'm simply saying what he has been doing ( aka his foreign policy ).

 

[xenon54 out]

That is evidence, you're defending a retard Islamist here you're not defending Turkey. His acts are no secret and i'm simply saying what he has been doing ( aka his foreign policy ).

Im the last one to defend Erdogan, my country always comes first, just being objective here, lets agree on disagree till one of you delivers a hard evidence.
At least there is no reason for me to continue when you guys are going to strictly ignore all the fact speaking against your theory.

 

[1000]

Im the last one to defend Erdogan, my country always comes first, just being objective here, lets agree on disagree till one of you delivers a hard evidence.
At least there is no reason for me to continue when you guys are going to strictly ignore all the fact speaking against your theory.

What do you think evidence is, it's not 1 video or article. It's the complete collection of facts backed up by sources which will be regarded as evidence when it makes logic. Same thing in a court.

Your only fact when you replied to me was that Turkey has attacked ISIS, I already replied to that, they're animals which are useful for someone when they fight your enemy. Doesn't mean they're your allies, they're wild animals.. Pakistan used to fund a similar group against Soviets as well, now the same shit is terrorizing Pakistan. Many other examples can be given. Even for Bashars policy backfiring as I did in my previous post.

 

[OTTOMAN]

well they came through turkey in the first place .

supporting terrorists has its cons i guess

Syrian Kurdish leader: Turkey turns blind eye to ISIS - Al-Monitor: the Pulse of the Middle East

Turkey's 'Open Border' Policy With Syria Has Backfired As ISIS Recruitment Continues - Business Insider

"If Turkey had not opened its border with Syria ... to Islamic State (IS), if so many fighters had not crossed the border into Syria with their guns and equipment, and if this group had not used Turkey as a base, IS could not have amassed its current strength in Syria,"

Are you saying armies of International terrorists come from Turkey? OK...... and perhaps this is why, Iraq have given them diplomatic status and this is why combined army of US and Iran, just watch them from distance! and occasionally send shipment of weapons, fuel, food.... etc.
i wonder, when commercial flights fly direct to Iraq, then why take detour?

 

[Falcon29]

@kaan

How reliable are these reports and why do you believe they would want to target Turkey?

 

[xenon54 out]

What do you think evidence is, it's not 1 video or article. It's the complete collection of facts backed up by sources which will be regarded as evidence when it makes logic. Same thing in a court.

Thats the problem i have not seen one fact except that some jihadists entered Syria from Turkey which doesnt prove anything considering the annual foreign traffic in Turkey, everything else is a claim, a claim in no evindence as long as not being backed up with hard evidence.

our only fact when you replied to me was that Turkey has attacked ISIS, I already replied to that, they're animals which are useful for someone when they fight your enemy. Doesn't mean they're your allies, they're wild animals.. Pakistan used to fund a similar group against Soviets as well, now the same shit is terrorizing Pakistan. Many other examples can be given. Even for Bashars policy backfiring as I did in my previous post.

Here is the list of Facts that came to my mind that prove the opposite, read the last one carefully its very relevant and the ultimate proof.

Syrian Civil War (Graphic Photos/Vid Not Allowed) | Page 245

Isis kidnapping Turkish diplomats > Fact
Isis threatening to attack Suleyman Shah Tomb > Fact
Isis threatening to ''take back Istanbul'' > Fact
Isis killing three people in Turkey last year > Fact
Isis supporter doing suicide attack in Istanbul just recently > Fact
Turkey attacking Isis convoy last year >Fact
Turkey arresting their members > Fact
Turkey confiscating chemical deliverys to Isis > Fact
Turkey confiscating illegal smuggled gasoline and closing over 200 gas stations selling them > Fact
Turkey allowing Peshmerga to pass to Kobane to fight isis > Fact
Turkey treating wounded ypg fighters > Fact
Turkey sending weapon delivery to Barzani to fight against Isis > Fact
Turkish intelligence planning attack against Isis (Tape scandal) > Fact

 

[OTTOMAN]

Ok guys..... enough of fantasy, time to come to senses.
Border of Turkey with Iraq is around 200km.
Now, never again tell that all the armies come through this tight corridor, and also their toyota trucks rails were imported in Turkey.
Such fantasies can only be sold to creatures of a closed state, who mostly have to believe the map its state show them.
Even if Turkey fail to guard this tight corridor, satellites would catch it.
Whereas, Turkey has no reason to leave its borders with Iran and Iraq and Syria, unguarded.
Actually, i believe most of Turkish army can be found there.

 

[1000]

Thats the problem i have not seen one fact except that some jihadists entered Syria from Turkey which doesnt prove anything considering the annual foreign traffic in Turkey, everything else is a claim, a claim in no evindence as long as not being backed up with hard evidence.

Do you know the amount of foreign Jihadis in Iraq and Syria, the vast majority of them entered Syria through Turkey.
20.000 is a lot, not some. They came from the west, Chechnya, China from everywhere.

ISIS Continues Steady Recruitment As 20,000 Foreign Fighters Join Extremist Groups In Syria, Iraq: Report

I backed my claims up, tell me which of my claims you doubt.

Here is the list of Facts that came to my mind that prove the opposite, read the last one carefully its very relevant and the ultimate proof.

Isis kidnapping Turkish diplomats > Fact
Isis threatening to attack Suleyman Shah Tomb > Fact
Isis threatening to ''take back Istanbul'' > Fact
Isis killing three people in Turkey last year > Fact
Isis supporter doing suicide attack in Istanbul just recently > Fact
Turkey attacking Isis convoy last year >Fact
Turkey arresting their members > Fact
Turkey confiscating chemical deliverys to Isis > Fact
Turkey confiscating illegal smuggled gasoline and closing over 200 gas stations selling them > Fact
Turkey allowing Peshmerga to pass to Kobane to fight isis > Fact
Turkey treating wounded ypg fighters > Fact
Turkey sending weapon delivery to Barzani to fight against Isis > Fact
Turkish intelligence planning attack against Isis (Tape scandal) > Fact

You're repeating things, like I told you ISIS are animals. Of course they will attack you, they will kidnap Turks and you will strike them here and there but the main atrocities they commit are against Erdogan's enemy so they can be positive and he has used them and helped them in this as well like the rest of the MB as I said in my first post here :

Just because Turkey has struck ISIS and ISIS has kidnapped Turks proves nothing, if Turkey let them through and helped them it doesn't have to mean that Turkey and ISIS are allies. ISIS like groups are animals which can be useful for you only if they don't attack you but attack your enemy ( Syria under Bashar for Erdogan/PKK ) that's what the ties have been like. This open border policy of Turkey has been going on for several years say 2011. ISIS has grown quickly in Syria since, they took control of Al Raqqa only a year and several months ago. Now they're of no benefit anymore, they've destroyed the FSA in Eastern Syria and the entire revolutionary dream among locals more than anyone else could, the group has become a threat even for Turkey therefor they've changed their stance towards ISIS. But that doesn't change Erdogan's history of supporting them previously.

Ok guys..... enough of fantasy, time to come to senses.
Border of Turkey with Iraq is around 200km.
Now, never again tell that all the armies come through this tight corridor, and also their toyota trucks rails were imported in Turkey.

No one said they come through the Turkey-Iraq corridor but the Turkey-Syria border. Almost no one knows what you mean most of the time anyway, you barely make any sense so save us those stories.