Send her back to Bangladesh, Bangladesh can just put her in prison hardly anyone in the UK would even care. She has shown no remorse or condemned actions of ISIS, she still believes what she did was right, she is clearly a danger when she comes back to the UK. I have no sympathy for such terrorist scums.
Isis bride Shamima Begum ‘is a problem for Britain, not Bangladesh’
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Unfair as it may seem, i don't want her in the UK - becoming a local celebrity, giving countless interviews, getting paid for books, talks etc. If she comes back to the UK she will be a much greater danger for impressionable young Muslims than anyone else.
Ideally, i hope BD would take her back, as she will be able to live with her child safely and kept out of the public eye - its also an appropriate punishment. But obviously, there is no reason BD would agree to do that unless the UK offers an incentive.
Ideally, i hope BD would take her back, as she will be able to live with her child safely and kept out of the public eye - its also an appropriate punishment. But obviously, there is no reason BD would agree to do that unless the UK offers an incentive.
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UK should kill her via mi-6 or drone or covert ops
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i have space for 4th wife but she have to live outskirt somewhere near new islamabad airport . but i am scared on night may be she cut my bilbul and run away as she is ISIS ladyNo Send her to @Imran Khan r he is feeling lonely
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i have space for 4th wife but she have to live outskirt somewhere near new islamabad airport . but i am scared on night may be she cut my bilbul and run away as she is ISIS lady
as a experience guy
If you can tame her in the first night I hope she will refrain from doing anything like this . best of luck.
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but when she know i am ultra liberal guy she may take action as her jihadi blood can be boil anytime . why take risk man ? that for a lady whom been used by monster mullahs . they sure destroyed her already nothing left on her .as a experience guy
you may know mullah drive on both smooth and sandy roads 
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You sound like a barbaric hindu extremist. :-"She should receive a painless death by decapitation and her child should be trained from a young age"
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Sour because whether he likes it or not, BD will have to take her in. In fact he is sour because majority of the fighters who went from the UK were of his origin. He wishes he could join his BJP goon-folk and yell "maaro maaroe" but fortunately he is a wannabe who lives in the shackles of Dhaka & thinks because he is learned of a bit of English he may as well jump in the camp of retards.
She should be rehabilitated in the UK and face a fair trial with all the allegations that were put towards her and also how she was 'lured' into going off to Syria. What were her motivations etc. If her ultimate motive was to put the UK and its national interests at jeopardy she should get the boot.
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Bangladesh and Holland declare ISIS bride Shamima Begum will NOT be allowed in - as first pictures emerge of her baby and footage shows the moment she finds out she's been stripped of UK citizenship
By Martin Robinson, Chief Reporter For Mailonline03:31 EST 20 Feb 2019, updated 16:00 EST 20 Feb
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It comes as the 19-year-old was told she had been stripped of her British citizenship, a move which left her 'shocked'.
After learning her fate Begum initially said she would seek citizenship in Holland - where her husband is from. But the Dutch Government today also appeared to slam the door, telling the Sun Online Begum does not have the residence permit required to live there.
The Netherlands also does not offer its help to returning Dutch jihadis, and can also strip its own nationals of their citizenship if they are deemed a national security threat.
Under international law no person can be rendered 'stateless', so if no other country will grant Begum nationality Home Secretary Sajid Javid could be forced to accept her back into Britain.
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Shahrial Alam, state minister of foreign affairs in Bangladesh, said today that there is 'no question' of her being allowed into Bangladesh and that she is not a citizen of the country.
A person can only be stripped of their citizenship should they have dual nationality - as ministers cannot take it away if it would leave a suspect stateless. But Mr Alam has said she does not have this in Bangladesh.
He told The Guardian: 'The government of Bangladesh is deeply concerned that [Begum] has been erroneously identified as a holder of dual citizenship.'
It was also today revealed that she is ready to beg Holland for citizenship because she is married to a Dutch jihadi as Home Secretary Sajid Javid admitted her baby son can still be British.
The remorseless 19-year-old is hanging her hopes on her captured husband Yago Riedijk being sent back to the Netherlands where he faces six years in jail for joining ISIS.
Begum said today she and their son Jerah - apparently named after a 7th century Islamic warlord - would consider moving to Holland and would 'wait for him' while he is inside the notorious terror wing of Rotterdam's De Schie prison.
Shamima Begum's heartbreak at loss of British citizenship
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This is the moment ISIS bride Shamima Begum, pictured holding her baby son, learned that Sajid Javid has moved to revoke her British citizenship to stop her getting back to the UK
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Begum again called on Britain to show her 'sympathy and understanding' for what has happened to her in Syria - but did not apologise for joining ISIS
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The letter obtained by ITV News asks Begum's family to inform her of the decision to revoke her citizenship and her right to appeal it
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Begum's baby son Jerah is entitled to British citizenship - but could try to argue he is Dutch because of the nationality of its jihadi father Yago Riedijk. She may even try to get Dutch citizenship off the back of it
As she gave a television interview while holding her newborn son, she said: 'Maybe I can ask for citizenship in Holland. If he gets sent back to prison in Holland I can just wait for him while he is in prison'.
Riedijk, from Arnhem, joined ISIS in 2014 and married Begum within three weeks of her fleeing Bethnal Green for Syria in 2015. Two of their children died before the age of one due to malnutrition.
Experts have said that the jihadi couple's newborn baby has the right to a UK passport and this could help his mother get back to the UK on human rights grounds.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ride-Shamima-Begum-use-BABY-door-Britain.html
By Martin Robinson, Chief Reporter For Mailonline03:31 EST 20 Feb 2019, updated 16:00 EST 20 Feb
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- Home Secretary Sajid Javid revoked Shamima Begum's citizenship yesterday
- Case hinges on Begum's Bangladeshi heritage on her mother's side of family
- The 19-year-old jihadi bride cannot be left 'stateless' without British nationality
- She said: 'It's unjust on me and my son. He [Javid] should show some sympathy'
- Family lawyer Tasnime Akunjee said that they will appeal the decision in court
- Legal experts claim Begum may probably lose - but her baby could help her case
- Immigration expert Asif Salam said: 'It's not in his best interest for the child to be in the UK without the mother'
- Begum sets her sights on Dutch citizenship if British decision is not overturned
It comes as the 19-year-old was told she had been stripped of her British citizenship, a move which left her 'shocked'.
After learning her fate Begum initially said she would seek citizenship in Holland - where her husband is from. But the Dutch Government today also appeared to slam the door, telling the Sun Online Begum does not have the residence permit required to live there.
The Netherlands also does not offer its help to returning Dutch jihadis, and can also strip its own nationals of their citizenship if they are deemed a national security threat.
Under international law no person can be rendered 'stateless', so if no other country will grant Begum nationality Home Secretary Sajid Javid could be forced to accept her back into Britain.
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Shahrial Alam, state minister of foreign affairs in Bangladesh, said today that there is 'no question' of her being allowed into Bangladesh and that she is not a citizen of the country.
A person can only be stripped of their citizenship should they have dual nationality - as ministers cannot take it away if it would leave a suspect stateless. But Mr Alam has said she does not have this in Bangladesh.
He told The Guardian: 'The government of Bangladesh is deeply concerned that [Begum] has been erroneously identified as a holder of dual citizenship.'
It was also today revealed that she is ready to beg Holland for citizenship because she is married to a Dutch jihadi as Home Secretary Sajid Javid admitted her baby son can still be British.
The remorseless 19-year-old is hanging her hopes on her captured husband Yago Riedijk being sent back to the Netherlands where he faces six years in jail for joining ISIS.
Begum said today she and their son Jerah - apparently named after a 7th century Islamic warlord - would consider moving to Holland and would 'wait for him' while he is inside the notorious terror wing of Rotterdam's De Schie prison.
Shamima Begum's heartbreak at loss of British citizenship
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This is the moment ISIS bride Shamima Begum, pictured holding her baby son, learned that Sajid Javid has moved to revoke her British citizenship to stop her getting back to the UK
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Begum again called on Britain to show her 'sympathy and understanding' for what has happened to her in Syria - but did not apologise for joining ISIS
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The letter obtained by ITV News asks Begum's family to inform her of the decision to revoke her citizenship and her right to appeal it
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Begum's baby son Jerah is entitled to British citizenship - but could try to argue he is Dutch because of the nationality of its jihadi father Yago Riedijk. She may even try to get Dutch citizenship off the back of it
As she gave a television interview while holding her newborn son, she said: 'Maybe I can ask for citizenship in Holland. If he gets sent back to prison in Holland I can just wait for him while he is in prison'.
Riedijk, from Arnhem, joined ISIS in 2014 and married Begum within three weeks of her fleeing Bethnal Green for Syria in 2015. Two of their children died before the age of one due to malnutrition.
Experts have said that the jihadi couple's newborn baby has the right to a UK passport and this could help his mother get back to the UK on human rights grounds.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ride-Shamima-Begum-use-BABY-door-Britain.html
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Shamima Begum will not be allowed here, says Bangladesh
Country at odds with UK over decision to strip 19-year-old of British citizenship
Esther Addley and Redwan Ahmed
Wed 20 Feb 2019 18.57 GMTFirst published on Wed 20 Feb 2019 15.16 GMT
Shamima Begum is not a Bangladeshi citizen and there is “no question” of her being allowed into Bangladesh, the country’s ministry of foreign affairs has insisted, setting up a clash with the UK after Sajid Javid’s move to strip the teenager of her UK citizenship.
“The government of Bangladesh is deeply concerned that [Begum] has been erroneously identified as a holder of dual citizenship,” Shahriar Alam, the state minister of foreign affairs, said in a statement issued to the Guardian, adding that his government had learned of Britain’s intention to cancel her citizenship rights from media reports.
“Bangladesh asserts that Ms Shamima Begum is not a Bangladeshi citizen. She is a British citizen by birth and never applied for dual nationality with Bangladesh … There is no question of her being allowed to enter into Bangladesh.”
The strongly worded statement is a direct challenge to Javid, the home secretary, who told MPs earlier on Wednesday that he would not waver in his determination to deprive the 19-year-old, who fled to Syria four years ago to marry an Islamic State fighter, of her citizenship.
With the two countries apparently settling on different interpretations of Bangladeshi immigration law and whether the country is obliged to extend citizenship rights to a 19-year-old of Bangladeshi heritage, Begum herself insisted that she would be left stateless if she lost her British citizenship.
She told the BBC: “I have one citizenship … and if you take that away from me, I don’t have anything. I don’t think they are allowed to do that.”
“This is a life-changing decision and they haven’t even spoken to me.”
The Foreign Office was understood to be in touch with the Bangladeshi high commission, but the FCO has stressed that decisions on Begum’s return were a matter for the Home Office. There is said to be some disquiet in ministerial circles that Bangladesh had not been consulted fully before the home secretary asserted she could claim Bangladeshi citizenship.
The FCO’s own website points out that Bangladesh is facing a fight to defeat terrorism, including from groups linked to Isis. Sources suggest that given this domestic fight against terrorism, it was never likely that Bangladesh would allow her in, regardless of the citizenship rights she was able to claim.
Javid insisted on Wednesday night that he “would never make any decision that would make an individual stateless” but failed to respond to Bangladesh’s stance on ITV’s Peston show, saying he could not discuss individual cases. He said: “My number one job is to do whatever I can to keep this country safe.”
The home secretary said he had to weigh up the law and the impact on people’s lives as well as any potential risk of returners trying to radicalise people in the UK. “In certain circumstances we will remove them of their nationality. I won’t hesitate to do that if that is the only option to me to keep people safe in the United Kingdom,” he said on the programme. “There’s a number of things that need to be in place … one of those is to make sure if you do go ahead and strip them of their nationality you do not leave them stateless.”
In a measure of the complexities of the case, however, he indicated that the citizenship rights of Begum’s baby son, who was born just days before the government moved to deprive her rights, are unaffected.
Responding earlier to an urgent question on the case in the House of Commons, Javid said: “Children should not suffer, so if a parent loses their British citizenship it does not affect the rights of their child.”
In a letter dated 19 February, the government informed Begum’s family that it had stripped her of her British citizenship. The 19-year-old was one of three schoolgirls who left their home in Bethnal Green, east London.
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Begum, who is living with her son in a refugee camp in northern Syria, is of Bangladeshi heritage but she has said that she does not have a Bangladeshi passport and has never been to the country.
It is illegal under international law to deprive someone of their nationality if to do so would leave that person stateless.
Bangladeshi law includes a right of “citizenship by descent” to anyone who is born to a Bangladeshi parent.
Shamima Begum left the UK for Syria when she was 15. Photograph: PA
Javid said the power to remove citizenship had been used 150 times since 2010, in the cases of people linked to terrorism and serious crimes.
He was challenged in parliament by the shadow home secretary, Diane Abbott, who said that the decision to deprive Begum “appears to have been taken on a wholly arbitrary basis”.
She pointed out that the government had been defeated in two previous cases where it had similarly sought to strip citizenship from people on the basis that, having Bangladeshi parents, they were themselves citizens.
In the most recent case, the special immigration appeals commission found that two terror suspects – codenamed E3 and N3 – were not dual nationals and so would have been rendered stateless. The government’s appeal against the decision will be heard later this year.
The lawyer who acted in that case, Fahad Ansari, said that while the court accepted the men had been Bangladeshi citizens by descent, “once they reach the age of 21 that citizenship lapses unless they actively seek to retain. Both my clients were over 21. But as far as Shamima Begum stands, she is 19, which is problematic for her.
“It’s quite bizarre because it leaves people like her, who are younger and more vulnerable to make silly mistakes like this, to be deprived, whereas people who are mature adults and make their decision to join IS, they are protected.”
The Begum family’s lawyer has said they are “considering all legal avenues” to challenge the decision.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/feb/20/rights-of-shamima-begums-son-not-affected-says-javid
Country at odds with UK over decision to strip 19-year-old of British citizenship
Esther Addley and Redwan Ahmed
Wed 20 Feb 2019 18.57 GMTFirst published on Wed 20 Feb 2019 15.16 GMT
Shamima Begum is not a Bangladeshi citizen and there is “no question” of her being allowed into Bangladesh, the country’s ministry of foreign affairs has insisted, setting up a clash with the UK after Sajid Javid’s move to strip the teenager of her UK citizenship.
“The government of Bangladesh is deeply concerned that [Begum] has been erroneously identified as a holder of dual citizenship,” Shahriar Alam, the state minister of foreign affairs, said in a statement issued to the Guardian, adding that his government had learned of Britain’s intention to cancel her citizenship rights from media reports.
“Bangladesh asserts that Ms Shamima Begum is not a Bangladeshi citizen. She is a British citizen by birth and never applied for dual nationality with Bangladesh … There is no question of her being allowed to enter into Bangladesh.”
The strongly worded statement is a direct challenge to Javid, the home secretary, who told MPs earlier on Wednesday that he would not waver in his determination to deprive the 19-year-old, who fled to Syria four years ago to marry an Islamic State fighter, of her citizenship.
With the two countries apparently settling on different interpretations of Bangladeshi immigration law and whether the country is obliged to extend citizenship rights to a 19-year-old of Bangladeshi heritage, Begum herself insisted that she would be left stateless if she lost her British citizenship.
She told the BBC: “I have one citizenship … and if you take that away from me, I don’t have anything. I don’t think they are allowed to do that.”
“This is a life-changing decision and they haven’t even spoken to me.”
The Foreign Office was understood to be in touch with the Bangladeshi high commission, but the FCO has stressed that decisions on Begum’s return were a matter for the Home Office. There is said to be some disquiet in ministerial circles that Bangladesh had not been consulted fully before the home secretary asserted she could claim Bangladeshi citizenship.
The FCO’s own website points out that Bangladesh is facing a fight to defeat terrorism, including from groups linked to Isis. Sources suggest that given this domestic fight against terrorism, it was never likely that Bangladesh would allow her in, regardless of the citizenship rights she was able to claim.
Javid insisted on Wednesday night that he “would never make any decision that would make an individual stateless” but failed to respond to Bangladesh’s stance on ITV’s Peston show, saying he could not discuss individual cases. He said: “My number one job is to do whatever I can to keep this country safe.”
The home secretary said he had to weigh up the law and the impact on people’s lives as well as any potential risk of returners trying to radicalise people in the UK. “In certain circumstances we will remove them of their nationality. I won’t hesitate to do that if that is the only option to me to keep people safe in the United Kingdom,” he said on the programme. “There’s a number of things that need to be in place … one of those is to make sure if you do go ahead and strip them of their nationality you do not leave them stateless.”
In a measure of the complexities of the case, however, he indicated that the citizenship rights of Begum’s baby son, who was born just days before the government moved to deprive her rights, are unaffected.
Responding earlier to an urgent question on the case in the House of Commons, Javid said: “Children should not suffer, so if a parent loses their British citizenship it does not affect the rights of their child.”
In a letter dated 19 February, the government informed Begum’s family that it had stripped her of her British citizenship. The 19-year-old was one of three schoolgirls who left their home in Bethnal Green, east London.
Play Video
2:44
UK citizenship decision is heartbreaking, says Shamima Begum – video
Begum, who is living with her son in a refugee camp in northern Syria, is of Bangladeshi heritage but she has said that she does not have a Bangladeshi passport and has never been to the country.
It is illegal under international law to deprive someone of their nationality if to do so would leave that person stateless.
Bangladeshi law includes a right of “citizenship by descent” to anyone who is born to a Bangladeshi parent.
Shamima Begum left the UK for Syria when she was 15. Photograph: PA
Javid said the power to remove citizenship had been used 150 times since 2010, in the cases of people linked to terrorism and serious crimes.
He was challenged in parliament by the shadow home secretary, Diane Abbott, who said that the decision to deprive Begum “appears to have been taken on a wholly arbitrary basis”.
She pointed out that the government had been defeated in two previous cases where it had similarly sought to strip citizenship from people on the basis that, having Bangladeshi parents, they were themselves citizens.
In the most recent case, the special immigration appeals commission found that two terror suspects – codenamed E3 and N3 – were not dual nationals and so would have been rendered stateless. The government’s appeal against the decision will be heard later this year.
The lawyer who acted in that case, Fahad Ansari, said that while the court accepted the men had been Bangladeshi citizens by descent, “once they reach the age of 21 that citizenship lapses unless they actively seek to retain. Both my clients were over 21. But as far as Shamima Begum stands, she is 19, which is problematic for her.
“It’s quite bizarre because it leaves people like her, who are younger and more vulnerable to make silly mistakes like this, to be deprived, whereas people who are mature adults and make their decision to join IS, they are protected.”
The Begum family’s lawyer has said they are “considering all legal avenues” to challenge the decision.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/feb/20/rights-of-shamima-begums-son-not-affected-says-javid
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