china is the biggest enabler of these regimes - North Korea, Myanmar
if you want a permanent solution go after the big fish
Is this the final confrontation for the Rohingya?
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china is the biggest enabler of these regimes - North Korea, Myanmar
if you want a permanent solution go after the big fish
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India is supporting the brutal Myanmar regime, no surprises there!
This is very good as it will propel China and BD to create a de-facto alliance to check-mate this.
you should remove your china colored glasses and start smelling the coffee
you would not be here if not for the steadfast support from China for Myanmar
during the 1990s
China is the biggest supporter whether you like it or notLoL. Good one Indian troll. You're so "wise".
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true that...
Forget the past. Let us talk about why India is now supporting a regime that is engaged in ethnic cleansing.
Did we hear any words of support from China, US or EU for Myanmar or is it only India that is supporting this
diabolical country?
Like I say this is very good in the long run for BD as it will propel China to provide more financial and military assistance to BD.
Forget the past. Let us talk about why India is now supporting a regime that is engaged in ethnic cleansing.
Did we hear any words of support from China, US or EU for Myanmar or is it only India that is supporting this
diabolical country?
Like I say this is very good in the long run for BD as it will propel China to provide more financial and military assistance to BD.
Why forget the past ? because it is convenient for you. myanmar is really isolated in the 1990s.
China propped them up. India opposed them and went no where.
Myanmar have moved past that stage. Thailand and USA have increased relationship.
China and Pakistan are supplying them with JF-17 combat aircraft. Bother to comment on that
Selective amnesia or wearing anti-India tinted glasses ??
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You will be better off being anti Myanmar. No matter what you do you can't make them pro-india for sure. India does not have what mm needs.
India does not want a pro-Indian regime in Myanmar. It does not want anti-Indian regime.
that is the whole point of India's engagement
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I never heard mm is anti India as mm has no mutually conflicting interest
You can't make mm to do anything china does not want. China owns them.
Your overly interest in rohingya will cost you dearly. You better keep silent.
china does not own myanmar. they march to their own beat
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Good. Drive these roaches the hell back to where they came from.
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F*ck all muslims, who can't protect their own...
Letting those animal like SOBs speak.
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More apt will be, be a good Hindu boy and run away if you see a muslim.
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Rakhine violence leaves everyone guessing
Larry Jagan, August 29, 2017
Members of Border Guard Bangladesh (BGB) command to the Rohingya people not to cross the canal, who take shelter in No Man’s Land between Bangladesh-Myanmar border, in Cox’s Bazar, Bangladesh, August 27, 2017. REUTERS/Mohammad Ponir Hossain
Myanmar’s western state of Rakhine erupted into violence on Friday, leaving the government’s efforts to find a solution to the communal tension there in tatters. Insurrection and arson engulfed large areas around Maungdaw and Buttidaung. More than 30 police stations and an army base were attacked in the early hours, by what the government called terrorists and Bengali extremists.
Skirmishes continued over the weekend, and there are fresh reports of clashes between the Myanmar army and police engaged in sporadic fighting with the Muslim attackers all over western Rakhine. However, it is impossible to verify many of these reports, and even the government’s official releases are thin on evidence.
“It’s a classic guerilla operation,” according to regional intelligence experts. “It’s hit and run, intend to cause the greatest confusion and fear.” Clearly it is intended to disrupt and government plans to implement the recommendations of the Kofi Annan Commission, announced last Thursday. It has changed the debate over sensible measures to reduce communal tension and violence as outlined in the report, to almost only security issues – at least for the time being.
The death toll from the latest widespread attacks staged by the Muslim insurgents has climbed to over a hundred, including nearly 80 alleged “insurgents”, and 12 members of the security forces, according to the government’s press release. Government staff, UN officials and aid workers have been evacuated. Many Rakhine villagers have been relocated to safer positions. Thousands of Muslim villagers have also fled the fighting, with nearly 90,000 trying to flee across into Bangladesh since Friday.
The international community is now firmly fixed on Myanmar and the increasing communal violence. The west’s position is clear, use restraint. They stress the need to avoid escalating the violence, and use peaceful means to address the root causes of the communal tension and violence. They all endorse the recommendations of the Kofi Annan Commission as the way forward: the US, EU and ASEAN parliamentarians endorse the recommendations as the starting point.
One of the members of the commission, the seasoned Dutch diplomat Laetitia van den Assum responded to earlier comments on Rakhine, by saying that recent violence in fact makes the recommendation even more important. “Ignoring them can only worsen an increasing fragile situation,” she said.
Regional Asian intelligence sources believe substantial funds have been poured in the Rohingya areas – largely through Mae Sot. But senior Myanmar intelligence officials are certain the arms – from Thailand — are being transported on fishing ships to Cox’s Bazaar in Bangladesh from Ranong, the hub of much of the human trafficking previously. Myanmar’s intelligence sources believe substantial weapons, including shoulder launchers – RPGs – are stockpiled in Bangladesh.
Kofi Annan also took a strident view, in response to the initial outbreak of violence on Friday. “I strongly urge all communities and groups to reject violence. After years of insecurity and instability, it should be clear that violence is not the solution to the challenges facing Rakhine State,” said in a statement released on Friday. Ang San Suu Kyi also reiterated this view in an early statement condemning the violence. The current administration remains committed to “finding meaningful and lasting solutions for conflict-torn Rakhine,” she said.
But the horrendous carnage and brutality have obscured the political context. For the moment, understandably security issues predominate. Although the Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army claim to be behind these current attacks, and took credit for the earlier attacks in October against the Border Guard Forces, leaving 9 dead, little is known about them.
The Rohingyas are trained in camps on the outskirts of Cox’s Bazaar funded by Qatar, according to one of Myanmar’s most senior intelligence officers.
Asia intelligence sources believe there are other more sinister hands behind them. Originally it was believed that some 500 Rohingya militants may have been trained in Bangladesh and in Rakhine, in the Mayu mountain range. But the figure been reported estimate the Muslim fighters to be more than a 1,000 strong – but there is no independent verification of numbers.
Regional Asian intelligence sources believe substantial funds have been poured in the Rohingya areas – largely through Mae Sot. But senior Myanmar intelligence officials are certain the arms – from Thailand — are being transported on fishing ships to Cox’s Bazaar in Bangladesh from Ranong, the hub of much of the human trafficking previously. Myanmar’s intelligence sources believe substantial weapons, including shoulder launchers – RPGs – are stockpiled in Bangladesh
The Rohingyas are trained in camps on the outskirts of Cox’s Bazaar funded by Qatar, according to one of Myanmar’s most senior intelligence officers. Originally regional intelligence sources believed that Saudi funds were being used. And then the fighters are infiltrated into Myanmar. Further training is conducted in the Mayu mountains.
As yet no intelligence source is prepared to speculate who might be behind the recently formed Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army, which has claimed responsibility for the October attacks and the latest offensive. But all intelligence agencies in Asia and the West are preoccupied with tracing IS connections. As IS is on the retreat – in Syria and the Middle East – Myanmar provides a soft-target they surmise. Any attacks in this area are getting instant international attention and coverage – but the fact that they have not as yet claimed responsibility for them, has some intelligence experts dismissing claims that they are actually behind them and the attacks.
But there seems little doubt that there is a hidden black hand behind these attacks. They are clearly intended to destabilize the government, cause increased dissension between Buddhist and Muslims and create a massive environment of fear. It is one, which no group in Myanmar can benefit from, including the military. But the Tatmadaw and the government have to tread lightly in their security responses, and not acerbate the situation. Returning to the Kofi Annan Commission’s recommendations would be a good start. A peaceful solution has to be found.
Of course, the current fear is that attackers will become more adventurous and launch assaults on tourist attractions. Kofi Annan recommended Mrauk U as a candidate for UNESCO World Heritage status. This makes Myanmar’s intelligence chiefs fear that this may just prompt the “terrorist” to take aim at it. Some specialists even fear they won’t stop there – and will attack other tourist venues, even in Yangon. The security forces will have to prevent this, or the whole country will be up in arms, communal violence spurred throughout the country.
But the battle between Aung San Suu Kyi and the commander in chief, Min Aung Hlaing is increasing now over the militarization of Rakhine. The army – and local Buddhist politicians – want a ‘state of emergency’ declared in Rakhine – especially in the wake of the latest “terrorist” attacks. The State Counselor has repeatedly resisted this, according to government insiders, although limited curfews have been imposed in some areas. But her resistance maybe on the verge of caving in, something human rights activists suggest would give the army carte blanche in Rakhine. And provide a clear recipe for disaster, and a convenient pretext for a military coup.
http://southasianmonitor.com/2017/08/29/rakhine-violence-leaves-everyone-guessing/
616 Rohingyas sent back to Myanmar
UNB . Cox's Bazar | Update: 23:47, Aug 28, 2017
Members of Border Guard Bangladesh (BGB) have sent back 616 Rohingyas as they attempted to enter Bangladesh through different bordering points amid the escalating tension in Rakhine state following an attack by insurgents on 24 police posts and an army base.
BGB Battalion-2 commanding officer, Lt. Col. Ariful Islam, said the Rohingyas were pushed back to Myanmar while they were trying to intrude into Bangladesh through Whykong and Unchhiprang points from Sunday night to 7:00pm on Monday.
He said tight patrolling was enforced in the bordering area. Police and coastguards along with BGB were working to prevent the influx of Rohingyas.
Police also detained seven Rohingyas in front of Whykong police checkpost on Sunday night.
Later, the detainees were handed over to BGB, said sub-inspector of the outpost Mahir Uddin Khan.
http://en.prothom-alo.com/bangladesh/news/157867/616-Rohingyas-sent-back-to-Myanmar
Larry Jagan, August 29, 2017
Members of Border Guard Bangladesh (BGB) command to the Rohingya people not to cross the canal, who take shelter in No Man’s Land between Bangladesh-Myanmar border, in Cox’s Bazar, Bangladesh, August 27, 2017. REUTERS/Mohammad Ponir Hossain
Myanmar’s western state of Rakhine erupted into violence on Friday, leaving the government’s efforts to find a solution to the communal tension there in tatters. Insurrection and arson engulfed large areas around Maungdaw and Buttidaung. More than 30 police stations and an army base were attacked in the early hours, by what the government called terrorists and Bengali extremists.
Skirmishes continued over the weekend, and there are fresh reports of clashes between the Myanmar army and police engaged in sporadic fighting with the Muslim attackers all over western Rakhine. However, it is impossible to verify many of these reports, and even the government’s official releases are thin on evidence.
“It’s a classic guerilla operation,” according to regional intelligence experts. “It’s hit and run, intend to cause the greatest confusion and fear.” Clearly it is intended to disrupt and government plans to implement the recommendations of the Kofi Annan Commission, announced last Thursday. It has changed the debate over sensible measures to reduce communal tension and violence as outlined in the report, to almost only security issues – at least for the time being.
The death toll from the latest widespread attacks staged by the Muslim insurgents has climbed to over a hundred, including nearly 80 alleged “insurgents”, and 12 members of the security forces, according to the government’s press release. Government staff, UN officials and aid workers have been evacuated. Many Rakhine villagers have been relocated to safer positions. Thousands of Muslim villagers have also fled the fighting, with nearly 90,000 trying to flee across into Bangladesh since Friday.
The international community is now firmly fixed on Myanmar and the increasing communal violence. The west’s position is clear, use restraint. They stress the need to avoid escalating the violence, and use peaceful means to address the root causes of the communal tension and violence. They all endorse the recommendations of the Kofi Annan Commission as the way forward: the US, EU and ASEAN parliamentarians endorse the recommendations as the starting point.
One of the members of the commission, the seasoned Dutch diplomat Laetitia van den Assum responded to earlier comments on Rakhine, by saying that recent violence in fact makes the recommendation even more important. “Ignoring them can only worsen an increasing fragile situation,” she said.
Regional Asian intelligence sources believe substantial funds have been poured in the Rohingya areas – largely through Mae Sot. But senior Myanmar intelligence officials are certain the arms – from Thailand — are being transported on fishing ships to Cox’s Bazaar in Bangladesh from Ranong, the hub of much of the human trafficking previously. Myanmar’s intelligence sources believe substantial weapons, including shoulder launchers – RPGs – are stockpiled in Bangladesh.
Kofi Annan also took a strident view, in response to the initial outbreak of violence on Friday. “I strongly urge all communities and groups to reject violence. After years of insecurity and instability, it should be clear that violence is not the solution to the challenges facing Rakhine State,” said in a statement released on Friday. Ang San Suu Kyi also reiterated this view in an early statement condemning the violence. The current administration remains committed to “finding meaningful and lasting solutions for conflict-torn Rakhine,” she said.
But the horrendous carnage and brutality have obscured the political context. For the moment, understandably security issues predominate. Although the Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army claim to be behind these current attacks, and took credit for the earlier attacks in October against the Border Guard Forces, leaving 9 dead, little is known about them.
The Rohingyas are trained in camps on the outskirts of Cox’s Bazaar funded by Qatar, according to one of Myanmar’s most senior intelligence officers.
Asia intelligence sources believe there are other more sinister hands behind them. Originally it was believed that some 500 Rohingya militants may have been trained in Bangladesh and in Rakhine, in the Mayu mountain range. But the figure been reported estimate the Muslim fighters to be more than a 1,000 strong – but there is no independent verification of numbers.
Regional Asian intelligence sources believe substantial funds have been poured in the Rohingya areas – largely through Mae Sot. But senior Myanmar intelligence officials are certain the arms – from Thailand — are being transported on fishing ships to Cox’s Bazaar in Bangladesh from Ranong, the hub of much of the human trafficking previously. Myanmar’s intelligence sources believe substantial weapons, including shoulder launchers – RPGs – are stockpiled in Bangladesh
The Rohingyas are trained in camps on the outskirts of Cox’s Bazaar funded by Qatar, according to one of Myanmar’s most senior intelligence officers. Originally regional intelligence sources believed that Saudi funds were being used. And then the fighters are infiltrated into Myanmar. Further training is conducted in the Mayu mountains.
As yet no intelligence source is prepared to speculate who might be behind the recently formed Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army, which has claimed responsibility for the October attacks and the latest offensive. But all intelligence agencies in Asia and the West are preoccupied with tracing IS connections. As IS is on the retreat – in Syria and the Middle East – Myanmar provides a soft-target they surmise. Any attacks in this area are getting instant international attention and coverage – but the fact that they have not as yet claimed responsibility for them, has some intelligence experts dismissing claims that they are actually behind them and the attacks.
But there seems little doubt that there is a hidden black hand behind these attacks. They are clearly intended to destabilize the government, cause increased dissension between Buddhist and Muslims and create a massive environment of fear. It is one, which no group in Myanmar can benefit from, including the military. But the Tatmadaw and the government have to tread lightly in their security responses, and not acerbate the situation. Returning to the Kofi Annan Commission’s recommendations would be a good start. A peaceful solution has to be found.
Of course, the current fear is that attackers will become more adventurous and launch assaults on tourist attractions. Kofi Annan recommended Mrauk U as a candidate for UNESCO World Heritage status. This makes Myanmar’s intelligence chiefs fear that this may just prompt the “terrorist” to take aim at it. Some specialists even fear they won’t stop there – and will attack other tourist venues, even in Yangon. The security forces will have to prevent this, or the whole country will be up in arms, communal violence spurred throughout the country.
But the battle between Aung San Suu Kyi and the commander in chief, Min Aung Hlaing is increasing now over the militarization of Rakhine. The army – and local Buddhist politicians – want a ‘state of emergency’ declared in Rakhine – especially in the wake of the latest “terrorist” attacks. The State Counselor has repeatedly resisted this, according to government insiders, although limited curfews have been imposed in some areas. But her resistance maybe on the verge of caving in, something human rights activists suggest would give the army carte blanche in Rakhine. And provide a clear recipe for disaster, and a convenient pretext for a military coup.
http://southasianmonitor.com/2017/08/29/rakhine-violence-leaves-everyone-guessing/
616 Rohingyas sent back to Myanmar
UNB . Cox's Bazar | Update: 23:47, Aug 28, 2017
Members of Border Guard Bangladesh (BGB) have sent back 616 Rohingyas as they attempted to enter Bangladesh through different bordering points amid the escalating tension in Rakhine state following an attack by insurgents on 24 police posts and an army base.
BGB Battalion-2 commanding officer, Lt. Col. Ariful Islam, said the Rohingyas were pushed back to Myanmar while they were trying to intrude into Bangladesh through Whykong and Unchhiprang points from Sunday night to 7:00pm on Monday.
He said tight patrolling was enforced in the bordering area. Police and coastguards along with BGB were working to prevent the influx of Rohingyas.
Police also detained seven Rohingyas in front of Whykong police checkpost on Sunday night.
Later, the detainees were handed over to BGB, said sub-inspector of the outpost Mahir Uddin Khan.
http://en.prothom-alo.com/bangladesh/news/157867/616-Rohingyas-sent-back-to-Myanmar
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