Is PTI losing support in Punjab and karachi?

[batmannow]

answer the question i asked .. how is PTI supporting TTP .. give prove or else shutup

why PTI was in the list of political parties which werent to be targeted by TTp terrorists before or durring the the elections?
who is the head of PTI, IMRAN KHAN?
who was offerring TTp offices? IMRAN KHAN
why PTI & IMRAN went to protest against DRONES, the best & only killing machine of TTp terrorists, why cant IMRAN & PTI couldnt protest against the TTp terrorists in public, a dam litlle dharni against the murder of 60,000 innocent pakistanis?
if you still, are ignorant, then shutup, & stop bieng a moran, who sees everything but cant think anything?

PTI is loosing its support fast indeed. If it continues to support 'peace talks', they might as well loose my vote!

thats the reality is, & thanks to be realistic for pakistani nation & for state of pakistan?
thanks from the bottom of my heart!

 

[Jzaib]

1.why PTI was in the list of political parties which werent to be targeted by TTp terrorists before or durring the the elections?
who is the head of PTI, IMRAN KHAN?
2. who was offerring TTp offices? IMRAN KHAN
3.why PTI & IMRAN went to protest against DRONES, the best & only killing machine of TTp terrorists,
why cant IMRAN PTI couldnt protest against the TTp terrorists in public, a dam litlle dharni against the murder of 60,000 innocent pakistanis?
if you still, are ignorant, then shutup, & stop bieng a moran, 4who sees everything but cant think anything?


thats the reality is, & thanks to be realistic for pakistani nation & for state of pakistan?
thanks from the bottom of my heart!

bro pleaase read ur post ..where is the proof that TTP is supporting? show ur post to anyone and ask if u sound like a normal person ..now i just quickly answer ur question but i guess it wouldnt make any difference .. u must have a bad pathan incident in ur childhood and u r taking it out on imran.
1. wrong. Imran khan was on top of hitlist according to intelligence agencies. secondly, they didnt target him bcoz he was very popular at that tym .. killing him would have turned a 10 million people against them..
2. i expplained the offices b4 but u are dumb enough to understand it. It was to offer a place to nigotiate.. to get offical stance so people and media dnt distort the views .. miscommunication can be avoided
3. not only imran khan , even the state protest.. pakistan offical stance in both previous and present government is that it is against international laws and is counter productive..
hope the question is answered .. If imran khan was the only problem , then u mustr know 90000 men that u mention died b4 he came on seen.. and u r blaming him for that as well .. im not gona call u stupid or moran , mental patinet , a lair ill save all those words and say that u r just like ur leader altaf hussian ...
OYEEEE JAGEEERDARA

 

[batmannow]

bro pleaase read ur post ..where is the proof that TTP is supporting? show ur post to anyone and ask if u sound like a normal person ..now i just quickly answer ur question but i guess it wouldnt make any difference .. u must have a bad pathan incident in ur childhood and u r taking it out on imran.
1. wrong. Imran khan was on top of hitlist according to intelligence agencies. secondly, they didnt target him bcoz he was very popular at that tym .. killing him would have turned a 10 million people against them..
2. i expplained the offices b4 but u are dumb enough to understand it. It was to offer a place to nigotiate.. to get offical stance so people and media dnt distort the views .. miscommunication can be avoided
3. not only imran khan , even the state protest.. pakistan offical stance in both previous and present government is that it is against international laws and is counter productive..
hope the question is answered .. If imran khan was the only problem , then u mustr know 90000 men that u mention died b4 he came on seen.. and u r blaming him for that as well .. im not gona call u stupid or moran , mental patinet , a lair ill save all those words and say that u r just like ur leader altaf hussian ...
OYEEEE JAGEEERDARA

IMRAN was top on the TTp hitlist?
thats why they appointed him as their negociator in peace talks with govt? i mean joke of century, right?lolzzzz
IMRAN KHAN & PTI are , the political front of TTp terrorists, that why both never came in public to protest thier terrorism, cause they are with terrorists
THEY CAN COME OUT, TO PROTEST THE DRONES, WHICH ARE THE DANGER TO TERRORISTS ?
still need proves?
well altaf is far better, he never supported any terrorists organization!
& MQM has a very clear, political anti/TTp stance, in favour of motherland, may be you dont like them, but sorry they hve showen that , they are more patriotic then IMRAN khan who was & still is ready to give offices to the TTp terrorists killers of 60, 000 innocent pakistanis..?
well lets disscuss whatever happend, after PTI got the KPK govt?
even though , in elections & before elections TTp made that clear they wont attack PTI? why?
lets count the, terrorists attacks after PTI got the govt in KPK, would you like to put IMRAN responsible, because of his political projection of TTp terrorists?

 

[Patriots]

give me a source of court ... btw not even PTI our army, police intelligence, even british police know nthat mqm supporters are bhatta mafia and target killers

You even didn't answer of my point except expressing BS ...........

 

[pkuser2k12]

This is your wish that TTP could take control of Karachi ... That's the real wish of PTI because they know TTP won't contest in election and PTI will enjoy Karachi seats ... Such a pathetic wish

just replace PTI with MQM and TTP with MQM target killers and your post becomes the truth about MQM and its terrorism

so shame is a small word for your types

 

[Patriots]

just replace PTI with MQM and TTP with MQM target killers and your post becomes the truth about MQM and its terrorism

so shame is a small word for your types

Whatever ... I can't restrict what you think ... But Its PTI wish to capture votes of Karachi ... Keep dreaming .............

 

[pkuser2k12]

Whatever ... I can't restrict what you think ... But Its PTI wish to capture votes of Karachi ... Keep dreaming .............

we already did despite rigging and we will keep capturing votes in karachi InshAllah

 

[Patriots]

we already did despite rigging and we will keep capturing votes in karachi InshAllah

Now you are loosing support not even in Karachi but in Punjab too

 

[SQ8]

Quite simply. People are sick of pointless protests on this and that and this. They want results, including their elected representative being at the least capable of getting fresh water delivered to them. When they fail to deliver on even that and instead spend most of their time on rigging protests.. people tend to tell them to go to hell.

 

[baqai]

PTI courtesy of its policies towards these negotiations and performance of Mr Alvi lost 35 votes from my family, i can't say for others ... those were 35 people who gave them votes and apart from 5 rest are in NA-250

 

[pkuser2k12]

Now you are loosing support not even in Karachi but in Punjab too

you dont worry we are here to stay InshAllah

only two parties in punjab pmln vs pti

and in kpk it is pti vs ppp+anp+jui f+pmln+others

and still they lose from PTI in kpk with God's Grace

 

[Jzaib]

IMRAN was top on the
TTp hitlist?
thats why they appointed him as their negociator in peace talks with govt? i mean joke of century, right?lolzzzz
IMRAN KHAN & PTI are , the political front of TTp terrorists, that why both never came in public to protest thier terrorism, cause they are with terrorists
1. THEY CAN COME OUT, TO PROTEST THE DRONES, WHICH ARE THE DANGER TO TERRORISTS ?
still need proves?
well altaf is far better, he never supported any terrorists organization!
2. & MQM has a very clear, political anti/TTp stance, in favour of motherland, may be you dont like them, but sorry they hve showen that , they are more patriotic then IMRAN khan who was & still is ready to give offices to the TTp terrorists killers of 60, 000 innocent pakistanis..?
well lets disscuss whatever happend, after PTI got the KPK govt?
3. even though , in elections & before elections TTp made that clear they wont attack PTI? why?
lets count the, terrorists attacks after PTI got the govt in KPK, would you like to put IMRAN responsible, because of his political projection of TTp terrorists?

1. is it a proof dumbo ? do u know the difference btw assumtion and proof? give me a prrof not this BS
2. MQM ius clear that they dont want any other gang in karachi to challange them\ if they were in favour of mother land they why altaf hussain said in india the creation of Pakistan is biggest mistake ..
3. they have attacked 3 MPA's nad killed them ..

please provide prrof .. not assumtions .. if assumtions make some one a traitor .. the whole Pakistan think altaf is a murderer and traitor .. but u said u have proof ..dnt run away from the question ..

 

[batmannow]

1. is it a proof dumbo ? do u know the difference btw assumtion and proof? give me a prrof not this BS
2. MQM ius clear that they dont want any other gang in karachi to challange them\ if they were in favour of mother land they why altaf hussain said in india the creation of Pakistan is biggest mistake ..
3. they have attacked 3 MPA's nad killed them ..

please provide prrof .. not assumtions .. if assumtions make some one a traitor .. the whole Pakistan think altaf is a murderer and traitor .. but u said u have proof ..dnt run away from the question ..

your brain less head cant accept any proves, thats why PTI has lost its support even on PDF, just check this thread, & find out the biggest ever guns of PTI thinder squad arent supporting PTI, s open political support to the killers of 60,000 pakistanis yes TTp?
that itself is the biggest proof, of PTI,s falling support through out this dam universe
peoples like you are the biggest reason , why peoples with brains just left PTI?
not only MQM, but ANP also is the TTp target in karachi?
so that means they also are the gang rulling karachi?
your brians are not working, & your eyes are still closed becarefull to be found in the gutters , where the sunami would be waiting for you?
biggest proof of PTI,s open support is , PTI never objected or protested the TTp killers in public?
its a crystal clear fact & a proof?
if not plz tell IMRAN to call. dharni in any major city of pakistan, against TTp?
you ill know the reality?
been said that, im telling you that, next time will be BATMANNOW time?

we already did despite rigging and we will keep capturing votes in karachi InshAllah

ohh yes, PTI won 15 NA seats from karachi?
will win 30 next time , great joke ?
win back NA 71 mianwali next time would be more then enough?lolzzz

 

[batmannow]

Opposition paints bleak picture of governance in KP
ZULFIQAR ALI

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PESHAWAR: For the first time during the last eight months, the opposition in the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Assembly took Chief Minister Pervez Khattak to the task and held him responsible for the growing lawlessness, bad governance and demoralisation of the police force in the province.

The opposition had requisitioned the session to discuss law and order situation and other issues.

Starting debate on the prevailing law and order situation in the provincial assembly on Thursday, opposition leader Sardar Mehtab Ahmad Khan said Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) led coalition government had proved disastrous and disappointed over 20 million people of this province.

Painting a bleak picture of governance and administration in the province, the opposition leader said many competent officers including senior bureaucrats and police officers had left the province and the chief minister was to blame.

“You (Pervez Khattak) compelled competent officers to leave the province and even removed the chief secretary with a single stroke of pen,” he said, adding that there was already a dearth of brilliant administrative officers in the province.

Sardar Mehtab said the people and personnel of law enforcement agencies had demoralised due to bad management.

He said four capital city police officers had been transferred in last eight months.

“More than 150 police officials and personnel of the law enforcement agencies lost life during the last few months, but I am very sorry to say that neither the chief minister nor his cabinet members or senior officers attended funeral prayers,” he said.

In the hour-long speech, the opposition leader spoke on terrorism, sectarian killings in Peshawar, extortions, kidnappings for ransom, governance, and challenges to be faced by the PTI-led government in coming months.

He called for strict crackdown on sectarian killings and warned that sectarian violence was a serious warning.

Sardar Mehtab criticised the chief minister for his indecisiveness, saying this has led to the deterioration of the law and order situation despite full support of the opposition and the federal government.
He said all MPAs in the ruling coalition had become ministers, advisers, special assistants or parliamentary secretaries but there existed no government in the province.

Referring to the frequent interference of PTI Chairman Imran Khan and his wizard Jehangir Tareen in the provincial matters, the opposition leader advised Pervez Khattak: “Don’t take directions from Bani Gala and Lodhran as they are unaware of ground realities. Use your own wisdom and experience.”

He said the provincial government blocked Nato supplies, but the federal government did not interfere and fully supported PTI stand Opposition paints bleak picture of governance in KP against the US drone strikes.

Sardar Mehtab predicted major developments in the region after the pullout of Nato forces from Afghanistan as well as general elections in India.

“This province will remain in the eye of storm,” he observed urging the government to improve level of preparedness.

Sardar Mehtab warned of massive displacement in case peace talks between government and the Taliban militants failed, saying geographically position of the province was very important for the country.

He said lawlessness in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa could engulf entire country therefore he urged provincial government to prepare itself for worst scenario.

“Mr Chief Minister, time will not wait for you. You can’t hold America, Taliban, drone attacks or Nawaz Sharif responsible for lawlessness, therefore you have to take bold decisions,” he maintained and assured that despite political divide opposition must stay behind you.

“You are the lucky chief executive in the history of this province, because opposition and federal government gave you full support,” he said.

The opposition leader asked the chief minister to bring capable and experienced officers to the province because ordinary bureaucrats could not handle this province.

MPAs Sardar Hussain Babak and Maulana Lutfur Rehman also spoke on the issue.

Replying to the opposition tirade, information minister Shah Farman criticised the opposition benches for level allegations and said the government should give suggestions.




despite political opposition, points presented by opposition are really good points , FOR PTI to think it over , what is getting wrong , why even in KPK they are lossing support of the masses?

 

[batmannow]

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Lucky ducklings
NADEEM F. PARACHA

Asif Ali Zardari (PPP), Altaf Hussain (MQM) and Asfandyar Wali (ANP) must often wonder, what is it that they did and men like Imran Khan (PTI) and Nawaz Sharif (PML-N) don’t (or they don’t and the latter two do), that makes the populist Urdu electronic media sound so kind and understanding towards the two men.

Though it has been just nine months after the PML-N formed a majority government at the centre and in the Punjab; and after the PTI took over the reins from the ANP in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, as far as the country’s and KP’s economy and law and order situations are concerned, these nine months have already been equal to at least two years (out of the five) of the former PPP-led coalition government.

The rapidly degrading economy and terrorist attacks by extremist outfits have worsened in the last nine months.

Of course, true to tradition, the current government blames the last government for handing them a country in shambles. Just like that government had blamed the government before it, and that government blamed the previous government and so on and so forth.

But the present government at the centre, headed by the PML-N and the one in the KP being led by the PTI have so far been rather lucky.

They have not been obsessively lambasted and ravaged by the electronic media, the judiciary and certain organs of the military establishment, as was the PPP-led coalition (not that the coalition was any more competent than the current PML-N and PTI set-ups).

While experiencing such good tidings from those who had become a migraine for the former PPP-ANP-MQM coalition, one would have expected the PMLN set-up at the centre and that of the PTI in the KP to be able to take some bold initiatives to give the economy at least a semblance of normality and also take firmer steps against extremist violence.

But that has not happened. Just like the KP province, the PTI government there and even the party itself have continued to spiral down towards chaos.

PTI had enjoyed a sudden rise and popularity (largely among the urban middle-classes in the Punjab and the KP) in 2011, and also managed to put up an impressive show during the May 2013 election.

Nine months later it looks fractured, bruised and all at sea as it tries to grapple (or even fully comprehend) its utter failure to pull back KP from the economic, social and political hell hole the province has been sliding into for over a decade now.

Happier times: A 2011 PTI rally in Lahore. Within two years after its sudden rise, the party looks fractured, bruised and disoriented.


At the centre the PML-N government may be looking more serene but this apparent calm (compared to the PTI government in the KP), may as well be apathy with a dopy smile drawn over its face.

Nawaz Sharif: Dopy calm?


The PML-N government really doesn’t do much. In spite of the fact that it has a huge majority in the parliament, friendly influence in the judiciary and friendlier men in the electronic media, it hasn’t moved the way a government with so many friends in so many influential places is expected to move.

Interestingly, though both PML-N and PTI are centre-right parties and had offered almost similar solutions (during their respective election campaigns) to the main issues of terrorism and how this terrorism was further retarding the country’s economics, they can’t stand each other.

Both have also become prisoners of what they had so passionately promised before the election.

I don’t think they were expecting the already disastrous situation of the country to get even worse so quickly and dramatically like it has in the last nine months.

And this has happened in such a manner that it has left the narratives and solutions offered by both the parties, start to suddenly look and sound redundant.

A more visionary and dynamic government would have been able to urgently adjust its position, narrative and policy according to the rapidly changing scenario.

But instead, the changing scenario has left the PML-N government at the centre seeming shell-shocked and inanimate, whereas the same scenario has left the PTI (in the KP and as a whole), lash out at largely imaginary opponents (‘US lobby,’ ‘liberal fascists,’ et al), in the most contradictory and chaotic manner.

Worsening economic and law and order situation in the KP has left the PTI as a whole, lash out at largely imaginary opponents.


PTI chief Imran Khan has become so dramatically animated, disordered and verbose due to the way his party has been facing one policy failure after another in the KP, he has begun to lose a lot of friends that he had made in the media.

The media has begun to come down hard on him, even though recently an old friend of his (a well-known TV anchor), gave him an open platform to redeem himself.

But even there, Khan erred and misquoted former military chief, General Parvez Kayani, who soon issued an angry rebuttal, leaving Khan facing another barrage of criticism for ‘spreading wrong and pessimistic information about the army’s chances of handling a military operation against the extremists.’

Khan is not used to being criticised in the manner that he has started to be in the media, or, more ironically, the way he used to criticise the former government.

His response to this criticism has been largely unprofessional, incoherent and, at times it has only made him sound like an extremely frustrated politician who now believes the media is being paid Dollars by those who want to discredit him and stop him from opposing a military operation against the extremists ‘on the behest of the Americans.’

But the PML-N government is still enjoying an unprecedented show of good will from the electronic media, the judiciary and even the main opposition party, the PPP.

It still has a window of opportunity flung open for it to take some decisive (if not drastic) steps to at least begin to effectively rectify the country’s economic woes and push back the mad wave of extremist violence that has gripped the country.

I am sure the PML-N government understands that its main policy of reviving the country’s battered economy cannot move an inch without the government first willing to address the issue of extremist violence on a more firm footing.

With so many friends in so many important places, one wonders what exactly is Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif waiting for?

There is a lot of truth in the suggestion that by announcing the highly dramatised and publicised peace talks with the extremists, the PM cleverly kicked the ball in Imran Khan’s court.

Khan fumbled with the ball and this fumbling took some vital sheen off his veneer and overall credibility.

With Khan, the loudest advocate of peace talks, now down, and his long-held ‘apologist’ thesis on the issue of extremist violence struggling to come to terms with the unprecedented rise of audacious terrorist attacks on soldiers, cops and civilians in the last nine months, the ball has bounced back in the PM’s court.

His leading nemesis has been neutralised. He is still enjoying good tidings from the media and most opposition parties.

But, at the same time, hope is rapidly running out for the state and the government to ever reach a workable arrangement with an enemy hell-bent on inflicting one grave wound after another on the body and soul of the already ravaged country.

The Prime Minister and his ruling party now have no other choice left but to override the party’s original line of appeasement and to also start to look beyond the electoral dynamics of its stronghold, the Punjab, and get sterner in its view and action against the terrorists.

Punjab is in Pakistan. Pakistan is not in Punjab. The PM is running out of choices. And the people of the three provinces most hit by extremist violence, KP, Sindh and Balochistan, have already run out of patience.