IS Jihadists Execute More Than 40 Tribesmen in Iraq's Anbar

[Falcon29]

Calm down now don't blow up, this is how you act when Israel kills some Palestinian yet now you want to speak about those dead as if it's a joke ?

What does it matter if women or children get killed or not, they're slaughtering everyone they find of that tribe, even if it's only males it's still not accepted. Besides their car bombs target women and children so..

You rejected statements that ISIS was raping and enslaving women until ISIS admitted it on video and their Dabiq magazine confirmed it. Now you're trying it again.

No I did not and I don't know what 'Dabiq' magazine is. I know ISIS targets Iraqi civilians. I'm telling you and the others here to let the man speak his opinion. Where not debating the morality of the incident. I don't think anyone believes anything happening in the region is moral. However, the reality is these things do happen thanks to nature of cultural system full of tribes and it's horrible. I don't stand with either side in the conflict in Iraq.

 

[1000]

All i am saying is for any tribe in the region within ISIS reach needs to watch out and play this politically right, they are looking for any excuse to kill who ever don't agree with them. Al shtat were in the middle of ISIS control and wanted to pledge allegiance to a certain moderate F.S.A group who were under american payroll lately + their elders and some of the tribemen were caught working with assad regime, Now how stupid can you get instead of ducking your head and laying low you do the opposite. what do you think was going to happen. You want a prime example of how to survive in this mad storm look at the Dulaimi* tribe in iraq anbar one of the largest sunni tribe, all thank to their good leaders they know how to keep their head clean and keep their people safe.

Dulaimi tribe plays it safe until they have the opportunity to side with the majoos and the kuffar, like they did in history. The US has plans for those tribes so sooner or later they will side with the American kuffar like in 2004.


Fighting al-Qaeda in 2005 and 2006

The Dulaim tribe fought numerous battles against al-Qaeda during 2005 and 2006. Naim Kaoud said, “The tribe was the first among the Iraqi tribes to fight al-Qaeda in the past. It played a major role in destroying this organization in Iraq during 2005 and 2006.” He said, “In the past, the government armed this tribe and entrusted it to cleanse regions of Anbar. Dulaim’s success in doing so prevented the entry of any al-Qaeda member along 36 kilometers [22 miles] of the province.”

Read more: IS kills 500 members of the Albu Nimr tribe - Al-Monitor: the Pulse of the Middle East

No I did not and I don't know what 'Dabiq' magazine is. I know ISIS targets Iraqi civilians. I'm telling you and the others here to let the man speak his opinion. Where not debating the morality of the incident. I don't think anyone believes anything happening in the region is moral. However, the reality is these things do happen thanks to nature of cultural system full of tribes and it's horrible. I don't stand with either side in the conflict in Iraq.

Dabiq is their new official paper.

So you know they target civillians then why are you asking me whether they killed women and children, if they do it in markets they will do it to tribes as well.

Who says he can't speak his opinion, we're letting him speak, whose stopping him, people are just disagreeing we don't see anyone banning him.

 

[Falcon29]

Dulaimi tribe plays it safe until they have the opportunity to side with the majoos and the kuffar, like they did in history. The US has plans for those tribes so sooner or later they will side with the American kuffar like in 2004.

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More of your victimization drivel, just accept that the fact that both sides think this way against each other. Especially your side in Syria and Iraq. Even though it's considered taboo here to mention that.

 

[1000]

More of your victimization drivel, just accept that the fact that both sides think this way against each other. Especially your side in Syria and Iraq. Even though it's considered taboo here to mention that.

People don't want to live under ISIS, Dulaimi doesn't feel like being massacred so they're waiting for the right opportunity, nothing wrong with that, the people in that location know better when the right time is then any of us. People are victims of them, you've just stated they kill innocent people.

I know ISIS targets Iraqi civilians

Looks like you aren't too fond of them either.

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[Falcon29]

People don't want to live under ISIS, Dulaimi doesn't feel like being massacred so they're waiting for the right opportunity, nothing wrong with that, the people in that location know better when the right time is then any of us. People are victims of them, you've just stated they kill innocent people.

You know exactly what I'm referring to. Quit it with your Shia victimization. The Conflicts in Iraq and Syria and not sectarian but have sectarian overtones. So I don't want to see you implying that it is that way through your 'majoos' sayings. And a lot of people on the side prefer do the same thing just with 'Wahabi'. Try to appear as neutral in that regards so people here could support you.

 

[1000]

You know exactly what I'm referring to. Quit it with your Shia victimization. The Conflicts in Iraq and Syria and not sectarian but have sectarian overtones. So I don't want to see you implying that it is that way through your 'majoos' sayings. And a lot of people on the side prefer do the same thing just with 'Wahabi'. Try to appear as neutral in that regards so people here could support you.

I will say Wahabi and Majoos as much as I want.

btw no idea what you're talking about, why don't you stfu you make no sense.
We both agree ISIS and similar Jihadists are animals, they massacre random civilians, so quit complaining.

 

[Falcon29]

I will say Wahabi and Majoos as much as I want.

So you say 'Wahabis' to slander Sunni's and also use the reference 'Majoos' to slander Sunni's and imply they're sectarian and then you wonder why people here opposing your sectarian views. It's not going to help your cause.

btw no idea what you're talking about, why don't you stfu you make no sense.

It makes absolute sense. I'm telling you to tone down your rhetoric. Don't you think that's better?

 

[Bombaywalla]

Are really erithrean? Since i know east Africa quite well (Erithrea included, and got s few erithrean friends here in London as well)

it's spelt 'Eritrea'

 

[Jaanbaz]

Why can't you just let him express his views? Without the insults/rhetoric? Armed tribe men used to be executed at the time of Prophet(SAW). Best example being the treacherous dirty criminal Jews at Khaiber who tried organizing and implementing an genocide which failed right before implementation phase.

Really? You are supporting ISIS?

 

[Falcon29]

Really? You are supporting ISIS?

Go read talkbacks between me and 1000.

 

[Jaanbaz]

Go read talkbacks between me and 1000.

Oh my bad but still the massacre was condemnable. Even if they were POWs as the retard from Eritrea pointed out. You are not allowed to slaughter POWs either. Which way you look at it, its war crimes. I hope they catch Baghdadi alive and hang him in public in Baghdad.

 

[Falcon29]

Oh my bad but still the massacre was condemnable. Even if they were POWs as the retard from Eritrea pointed out. You are not allowed to slaughter POWs either. Which way you look at it, its war crimes. I hope they catch Baghdadi alive and hang him in public in Baghdad.

POW killing is something humans do and I hope it wasn't that way. Israeli's did it to Egyptians in 67, Egyptians did it back in 73. Almost in every conflict it happens unless one side is overwhelmingly more powerful. But, even then, they send the rebels to prisons for torture. Such as the case with the US in Iraq. And eventually Iraqi government was complicit in these jails, if not running them. Iraqi government is still running the same policy which has seen woman/girls raped in the prisons.

The historical event I mentioned was actually judgement by the Torah. So basically what IS did if you look at it from religious context is Jewish. In Khaiber they refused to be judged by the Muhammad Ibn Abdullah so they choose an ex member of their own tribe who invoked Torah on them. Which meant male combatants were killed and he also died from his wounds he got due to the treason.

I don't like taking sides in this dirty conflict because it is pretty bad. No side has moral high ground. Kurds are comitting war crimes, Iraqi' Shia militias are, IS is committing war crimes. So I prefer PDF base to report on this and do less commentary. Which is why I have a problem with @1000 , he is too sectarian. And he refused to respond to my post that addressed this issue with him because he prefers to stay sectarian and get the best of both worlds. Which naturally will cause people here to oppose his cause that he proclaims is a cause against terror. I advised him to tone down his rhetoric so he gets support from people like me and others. I haven't seen a sign from him that he will though.

 

[Jaanbaz]

POW killing is something humans do and I hope it wasn't that way. Israeli's did it to Egyptians in 67, Egyptians did it back in 73. Almost in every conflict it happens unless one side is overwhelmingly more powerful. But, even then, they send the rebels to prisons for torture. Such as the case with the US in Iraq. And eventually Iraqi government was complicit in these jails, if not running them. Iraqi government is still running the same policy which has seen woman/girls raped in the prisons.

The historical event I mentioned was actually judgement by the Torah. So basically what IS did if you look at it from religious context is Jewish. In Khaiber they refused to be judged by the Muhammad Ibn Abdullah so they choose an ex member of their own tribe who invoked Torah on them. Which meant male combatants were killed and he also died from his wounds he got due to the treason.

I don't like taking sides in this dirty conflict because it is pretty bad. No side has moral high ground. Kurds are comitting war crimes, Iraqi' Shia militias are, IS is committing war crimes. So I prefer PDF base to report on this and do less commentary. Which is why I have a problem with @1000 , he is too sectarian. And he refused to respond to my post that addressed this issue with him because he prefers to stay sectarian and get the best of both worlds. Which naturally will cause people here to oppose his cause that he proclaims is a cause against terror. I advised him to tone down his rhetoric so he gets support from people like me and others. I haven't seen a sign from him that he will though.

The problem is that ISIS is not a legitimate armed forces of any nation, it is against Geneva conventions to execute POWs. Even for Governments there are international laws to follow.

Convention relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War. Geneva, 27 July 1929.

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  Art. 2. Prisoners of war are in the power of the hostile Government, but not of the individuals or formation which captured them.
  They shall at all times be humanely treated and protected, particularly against acts of violence, from insults and from public curiosity.
  Measures of reprisal against them are forbidden.
  
  

 

[Falcon29]

The problem is that ISIS is not a legitimate armed forces of any nation, it is against Geneva conventions to execute POWs. Even for Governments there are international laws to follow.

Convention relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War. Geneva, 27 July 1929.

• 
  Art. 2. Prisoners of war are in the power of the hostile Government, but not of the individuals or formation which captured them.
  They shall at all times be humanely treated and protected, particularly against acts of violence, from insults and from public curiosity.
  Measures of reprisal against them are forbidden.
  

International law is not respected by the international world. It used as a tool for the West to implicate their enemies in war crimes. They do with this Arabs in the ME in some cases, and they do it with Russia/China. It is also designed to suit Western military doctrine/tactics. On one hand you can't execute POW's, but you can carpet bomb complete districts as Israel clearly did in the Gaza Strip.

No moral high ground as I said earlier.

 

[Jaanbaz]

International law is not respected by the international world. It used as a tool for the West to implicate their enemies in war crimes. They do with this Arabs in the ME in some cases, and they do it with Russia/China. It is also designed to suit Western military doctrine/tactics. On one hand you can't execute POW's, but you can carpet bomb complete districts as Israel clearly did in the Gaza Strip.

No moral high ground as I said earlier.

You can debate for as long as you want. ISIS is not a legitimate state nor an Army of a country reconsigned by rest of the world. It is duty upon civilised nations to wipe ISIS from the face of earth.