Irans new long range missile SHABAB III

[shehbazi2001]

For checking the effectiveness of Iranian Shahab systems, we need to look beyond the figures of range and warhead payload.

Seemingly, Shahabs are liquid-fuel systems. I saw a launch video of it and the presence of a fixed flame or plume at rocket nozzle showed that its a liquid fuel system. This plume disappears after a short distance.

In a solid fuel ballistic missile, there is no flame or plume, rather there is a continuous smoke trail, that increases in size with distance.

For understanding this, we can search the videos in youtube of Ghauri and Shaheen missiles of Pakistan and paying attention to plume and smoke trails.

If the propulsion is by solid fuel, we say that missile has a rocket motor and if the missile uses liquid fuel, we say it has a rocket engine.

Now the point is that the Re-entry vehicle (RV) separates of the main rocket body or not. In most solid fuel missiles, the rocket separates from the RV once it is finished or burnt out. This also reduces the radar signature or RCS of the missile by virtue of reduction in size.

It is RV that contains the warhead.

Looking the videos and pictures of Iraqi Scuds in Gulf War, it seemed that the whole missile body crashed on the target and there was no separation of RV. This large missile has greater RCS and was easily tracked on radar.

If the rocket is separated from the RV, like in Pakistani Shaheen and Ghaznavi missiles, then the RV presents a smaller target to track and they have more chances to get through the defences.

I don't know if the rocket engine of Shahab separates from the RV or not, but if it does not separate like Iraqi Scuds, then they can easily be tracked by ground radars and intercepted. They would then have to saturate the defences by firing more rounds.

 

[shehbazi2001]

I think the title of the thread should be corrected to SHAHAB-III instead of SHABAB-III. SHABAB-III could be the name of a subcontinent movie but not of a missile. I have edited it myself in my post.

 

[batmannow]

Mullahs and Missiles
Peter Brookes | July 10, 2008
It's not unusual for a state to conduct military exercises, but Iran had a lot more in mind when it literally went ballistic yesterday - launching nine medium- and long-range missiles during its "Great Prophet" war games. Without question, this latest round of saber-rattling wasn't just routine defense drills. It was intended, instead, to posture and provoke - and to advance Iranian interests:
Oil markets: The price of oil slipped a tad in the last day or two, which runs counter to the interests of Tehran's needy coffers. (Iran's economy is highly dependent on energy revenues - not to mention a mess due to incompetent mullah management.)
The war games are sure to ratchet up regional tensions - and thereby push the price of "black gold" back up.

Push-back: Energy-dependent Western nations have imposed economic sanctions on Tehran to pressure it to stop enriching uranium, a step toward nuclear weapons. Iran is hitting back by rattling nervous oil markets.

The mullahs also have threatened to attack oil tankers in the Strait of Hormuz, through which 40 percent of the world's oil exports travel. The sea and land war games, including a variety of missile shots, put some semblance of teeth into that threat.
Military might: Tehran's military exercises are also an answer to the exercises the US Navy has been conducting in the Persian Gulf. And these missile tests signal that there will be a price to pay for any military action against Iran, especially its nuclear (weapons) program - which continues unimpeded.
Mohamed El Baradei, the chief of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), recently said Iran could be six months to a year away from a nuclear weapon if it pulled out all the stops.
The missiles Iran tested can reach all of the Middle East, including US forces in the region and Israel. The longer-range Shahab-3 can also reach into southern Europe.
The scientific data gleaned from the missile tests, especially of the "improved" Shahab-3, might also aid Iran's intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) program, which Tehran is developing as a natural sidekick to nukes.

The concern over that threat isn't without merit. In late May, the IAEA reported (based on multisource, multilateral intelligence received from member states) that Iran is working on a new missile warhead, known as "Project 111," for the Shahab.
According to documents in the IAEA's possession, Iran has redesigned the current "Shahab-3 missile re-entry vehicle to accommodate a nuclear warhead."
Tehran hasn't tested an ICBM successfully yet, but experts estimate a two-stage ballistic missile from Iran could reach all of Europe - plus the US East Coast. A three-stage version could range the entire United States. Bottom line: Iran's chest-beating here shows the mullahs' true intentions, despite seemingly endless efforts on the part of the West to improve relations - and slow its nuclear program.
Why is Tehran developing defense programs, such as missiles and nukes, that will hold increasing numbers of people hostage to its wishes? Clearly, it plans to become the Middle East's 800-pound gorilla.
Iran's leaders will also continue supporting terrorism (via such cat's paws as Hamas and Hezbollah), trying to manipulate energy markets to their advantage and creating an anti-US arc of influence across the Middle East. No amount of striped-pants happy-talk is likely to dissuade Tehran from its intended course. That leaves us, and other like-minded states, with little choice but to do whatever's needed to protect our interests.

Copyright 2008 Peter Brookes. All opinions expressed in this article are the author's and do not necessarily reflect those of Military.com

 

[Munir]

As long as possible the Iranians try to delay intervention but I do have to say that if they do not get something working then the next domino after Irac and Afghanistan is clearly Iran... The mulahs are playing a degnerous game.

 

[batmannow]

As long as possible the Iranians try to delay intervention but I do have to say that if they do not get something working then the next domino after Irac and Afghanistan is clearly Iran... The mulahs are playing a degnerous game.

MY, DEAR ! MAJOR MUNIR, sir WELL, IRANIANS are pushing further good, frist thing is frist... which is that ! like PAKISTAN , IRAN is a free and a democratic islamic republic and its is thier basic right! to defend themselves from the invasion..... or any sort of attack on its land , air & sea.
Iran's New Bomb We have a story over at Military.com this morning about the much-touted (by its own government, though) Iranian “smart bomb” the mullahs vow to “use against our enemies when the time comes...”
Iran vowed Sunday to use a new 2,000-pound "smart" bomb against its enemies and unveiled mass production of the new weapon, state television reported.

The government first announced development of the long-range guided bomb Thursday, saying it could be deployed by the country's aging U.S.-made F-4 and F-5 fighter jets.
"We will use these (bombs) against our enemies when the time comes," Defense Minister Mostafa Mohammad Najjar said on state television Sunday.

 

[U-571]

well, in a news papar, i read tht the iranian new missile is the same old missile, not having the same range as told to the media. well i dont know wht is right.if u have anything knowledgeable just msg me.

well if its true, we welcome our iranian brothers to a new era of their missile technology.

 

[batmannow]

Iran tests 'new weapon' for use at seaFrom the Associated Press
9:05 AM PDT, August 4, 2008 WASHINGTON -- Iran announced today that it has tested a new weapon capable of sinking ships nearly 200 miles away, and reiterated threats to close a strategic waterway at the mouth of the Persian Gulf if attacked.

Up to 40 percent of the world's oil passes through the Strait of Hormuz, a narrow passage along Iran's southern coast. Tehran has warned it could shut down tanker traffic there if attacked -- a move likely to send oil prices skyrocketing.

Revolutionary Guards commander Gen. Mohammad Ali Jafari said today that the new marine weapon is "unique in the world" and has a range of 300 kilometers (186 miles), according to the state news agency IRNA.
That's within range of U.S. warships deployed in the Persian Gulf. Last month, Iran tested missiles it claimed were capable of reaching 1,250 miles (2,000 kilometers) away -- putting U.S military bases in the Middle East as well as Israel, Turkey, the Arabian peninsula, Afghanistan and Pakistan all within striking distance.
Monday's report gave no details on when or where the new weapon was tested. Its range indicates it could be a type of torpedo, but state radio called it a missile.
Jafari warned Iran would respond decisively if any military strike is carried out against it.

"Enemies know that we are easily able to block the Strait of Hormuz for an unlimited period," he was quoted by state radio as saying. "The strait and vessels are in range of our various weapons."

Both the U.S. and Israel -- which shares American concerns over Iran's nuclear program -- have said they would prefer a diplomatic solution to the standoff with Iran, but have not ruled out other options -- including a military one.
Israeli analyst Ephraim Kam, a former senior intelligence officer, dismissed the new weapons test.

"They are always boasting about their weapons and their military capabilities and saying how unique they are, but they are usually just standard military weapons," he said

 

[Black Stone]

Iran's Super Missile Will Defeat Great Satan, Steal Your Girlfriend

LOL, 2 jokes in 1 line.