Iranian consulate in Basra south Iraq is one fire now as thousands of protestors try storm it

[Saif al-Arab]

This hostility is good for Iraq, likewise Iraqi hostility with the KRG had very good results as I always hoped for. The more hostility the better so that these mullahs of ours can be declared hostile by the populace and state. Iraqis are being bashed by Iran for not being thankful for some crates of ammo they sold which we needed due to Maliki (the in Iranian exile retard with no brain) destroying the military during his rule.

It would be of great sight to see a military coup in Iraq overthrowing this failed systemm however the Hezbollah militias complicate such an action. Iran's strategy of spawning 20+ militia forces under different leaders is clear, decentralize the state so that it will be weak and easy to influence, hostile.

I think it's time to return to the good old days and restore the good ba'ath party, like the ba'ath party Iran supports in Syria.

Waiting for my Nigerian friend to tell me i'm delusional living in a dream world.

Here on PDF the Iranian Mullah supporters (almost every Iranian user, even those that live in the West) are living in their own little fantasy world where not only Shia Arabs but Arabs from Palestine to Yemen, are in love with their failed regime. The regime that most local Iranians curse in the real world due to 40 years of misery (by large) as well.

Everywhere where Mullah regime influence is found in the Arab world, there is mostly only misery, poverty, instability, weak state institutions, mafia rule (Mullah rule and not just 1 Mullah like in Iran but tons of different Mullah's). Some examples are tiny Southern Lebanon, 2-3 villages in Bahrain, certain neighborhoods, cities and areas in Iraq (although luckily nowhere as bad as under Al-Maliki as millions of people have woken up due to experiencing the ground realities of Iraq and the "great job" that those pro-Mullah regime Iraqi "politicians" and Mullah's have done for the country and their people) and the few Houthi controlled areas of Yemen.

Anyway it does not take a genius to figure out that a strong and stable Iraq is not in the interests of Iran. Regardless of which regime rules it. Iraq is their only gate to the Middle East, Western Asia proper, key strategic areas like the Red Sea, Eastern Mediterranean, Europe and Africa.

I mean the only other areas of note that they can have any remote influence in, is landlocked, small and perpetual failed/unstable Afghanistan, even more irrelevant tiny Tajikistan (that has a 10 times smaller economy than Dubai alone) and similarly tiny Azerbaijan, which is under Russian influence and where the likes of Turkey have a much bigger say as well, not to say that it is not an important entity compared to the areas that can be reached if influence in Iraq is established like post 2003.

Notice that since recorded history, Iraq's failures, are associated with the eastern neighbor who mostly always looked westward since it appeared in history 2500 years ago. Appeared/became relevant after defeating the Assyrian Empire, which previously suffered from civil unrest and numerous regional wars in the 2-3 centuries prior to that event. Not even going to mention the Islamic conquest that freed Iraq and before that (almost starting from 300 BC) the independent Arab and Semitic kingdoms in the South (Lakhmids, Characene)) and West (Hatra) etc.

Iraq was a strong state and a well-to-do state in the modern era as well when Iran (Shah) had no power to meddle in Iraq other than supporting some stateless mountain goats in the North that were dealt with.

BTW we both know that most Iraqis (especially the older/middle age generation that remembers all those conflicts since 1979) and even the youth born after 2003 but not only, are nationalists by heart and naturally align themselves with fellow Arabs and wish for such regional Arab cooperation as the educated lot know their history and that of the region and know who the real "enemies" are. "Enemies" here being those in power abroad (foreign countries) in the region and their ambitions, not necessarily the average person in those countries (for example Iran and Turkey) that have no say in what the likes of Khamenei or Erdogan are daydreaming about.

Interestingly both those leaders are wannabe Arabs by large and very obsessed about internal affairs in the Arab world. Khamenei claims Arab ancestry (paternal), has an Arab surname, speaks fluent Arabic, addresses Arab youth almost every day on his Arabic Twitter (lol) and the other guy Erdogan, is married with an Turkish Arab and also speaks decent Arabic and is obsessed about affairs in the Arab world. Pathetic but not strange given that the Arab world is the historical heavyweight in this region and the economic, geographic, population size, potential, history, in terms of Islam (heavyweight by default since the beginning and until the end) so the obsession is understandable somewhat.

If not for woe-torn states such as Iraq and Syria, those two entities, would have zero influence, like prior to those conflicts. Only locals and world powers (USA and to an extend Russia) allowed those two regional entities, to even have a say in Syria and Iraq. Although they will claim something else here on PDF and trash talk Iraq and Syria like seen in this thread already.

So the solution is at the hands of the Arab youth to restore regional sanity and how it was for most of recorded history. BTW that is also what is going to happen once again.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Here on PDF the Iranian Mullah supporters (almost every Iranian user, even those that live in the West) are living in their own little fantasy world where not only Shia Arabs but Arabs from Palestine to Yemen, are in love with their failed regime. The regime that most local Iranians curse in the real world due to 40 years of misery (by large) as well.

Everywhere where Mullah regime influence is found in the Arab world, there is mostly only misery, poverty, instability, weak state institutions, mafia rule (Mullah rule and not just 1 Mullah like in Iran but tons of different Mullah's). Some examples are tiny Southern Lebanon, 2-3 villages in Bahrain, certain neighborhoods, cities and areas in Iraq (although luckily nowhere as bad as under Al-Maliki as millions of people have woken up due to experiencing the ground realities of Iraq and the "great job" that those pro-Mullah regime Iraqi "politicians" and Mullah's have done for the country and their people) and the few Houthi controlled areas of Yemen.

Anyway it does not take a genius to figure out that a strong and stable Iraq is not in the interests of Iran. Regardless of which regime rules it. Iraq is their only gate to the Middle East, Western Asia proper, key strategic areas like the Red Sea, Eastern Mediterranean, Europe and Africa.

I mean the only other areas of note that they can have any remote influence in, is landlocked, small and perpetual failed/unstable Afghanistan, even more irrelevant tiny Tajikistan (that has a 10 times smaller economy than Dubai alone) and similarly tiny Azerbaijan, which is under Russian influence and where the likes of Turkey have a much bigger say as well, not to say that it is not an important entity compared to the areas that can be reached if influence in Iraq is established like post 2003.

Notice that since recorded history, Iraq's failures, are associated with the eastern neighbor who mostly always looked westward since it appeared in history 2500 years ago. Appeared/became relevant after defeating the Assyrian Empire, which previously suffered from civil unrest and numerous regional wars in the 2-3 centuries prior to that event. Not even going to mention the Islamic conquest that freed Iraq and before that (almost starting from 300 BC) the independent Arab and Semitic kingdoms in the South (Lakhmids, Characene)) and West (Hatra) etc.

Iraq was a strong state and a well-to-do state in the modern era as well when Iran (Shah) had no power to meddle in Iraq other than supporting some stateless mountain goats in the North that were dealt with.

BTW we both know that most Iraqis (especially the older/middle age generation that remembers all those conflicts since 1979) and even the youth born after 2003 but not only, are nationalists by heart and naturally align themselves with fellow Arabs and wish for such regional Arab cooperation as the educated lot know their history and that of the region and know who the real "enemies" are. "Enemies" here being those in power abroad (foreign countries) in the region and their ambitions, not necessarily the average person in those countries (for example Iran and Turkey) that have no say in what the likes of Khamenei or Erdogan are daydreaming about.

Interestingly both those leaders are wannabe Arabs by large and very obsessed about internal affairs in the Arab world. Khamenei claims Arab ancestry (paternal), has an Arab surname, speaks fluent Arabic, addresses Arab youth almost every day on his Arabic Twitter (lol) and the other guy Erdogan, is married with an Turkish Arab and also speaks decent Arabic and is obsessed about affairs in the Arab world. Pathetic but not strange given that the Arab world is the historical heavyweight in this region and the economic, geographic, population size, potential, history, in terms of Islam (heavyweight by default since the beginning and until the end) so the obsession is understandable somewhat.

MIGA.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

MIGA.

Not entirely sure what "MIGA" is supposed to mean in this context bro. However since you thanked my post, I assume, that it is not too negative.

What I wrote is based (the core points) on recorded history and ground realities that nobody can argue against as otherwise that person would be arguing against facts. What can be discussed then is the degree of the modern-day meddling and whether it is 100% negative, 90% negative, 50% negative or if you are a complete uneducated sellout with very few functioning brain cells, you can also claim that there is no negative Mullah regime meddling at all and that those Iraqi "politicians" (hugely corrupt and incompetent mafia/terrorist bosses by large that undermine the Iraqi state actively ever since 2003) aligned (one way or another) with the same Mullah regime, are not at fault at all. Or that the imposed system on Iraq post US-invasion, is a wonderful thing.

I have been telling those things for almost 10 years now. I met much opposition from fellow Iraqis and Arabs and also in person. Was labelled all kinds of stuff (false) while my opponents forgot that my views are based on nationalism/patriotism for the greater good of Iraq and the Arab world as a whole. This is prioritized above everything else.

That is why a Shia Arab, Christian Arab, Jewish Arab, Buddhist Arab, Atheist Arab or an Arab "Satanist" is dearer to me, if he agrees with such views (dearer, as in I have more in common with him or her), than the Sunni equivalent of the sellouts. So sect is irrelevant. If a leader did just half of what I believe in, in Iraq, he could (for all I care) be the most hardcore Shia Twelver and attend the Hussainiyah 7 times a week, lol. In the real world such actions would most likely be at conflict with some of my beliefs and views of what should be done in Iraq and the Arab world as a whole, but if he keeps that solely private (as is done in the West by large when it comes to religion and personal views), then no problem at all.

Well, it is a wonderful thing for those entities that want to meddle in Iraq and do it and we have 2 key examples of such entities that I already mentioned. Each has its own pet (to a degree) in the so-called KRG, that they can use and sometimes, at certain periods often, as leverage against Baghdad.

However this is bound to fail (it already failed last year) on the short and certainly long run as explained in post 91.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Not entirely sure what "MIGA" is supposed to mean in this context but since you thanked my post, I assume, that it is not too entirely negative.

What I wrote is based (the core points) on recorded history and ground realities that nobody can argue against as otherwise that person would be arguing against facts. What can be discussed then is the degree of the modern-day meddling and whether it is 100% negative, 90% negative, 50% negative or if you are a complete uneducated sellout with very few functioning brain cells, you can also claim that there is no negative Mullah regime meddling at all and that those Iraqi "politicians" (hugely corrupt and incompetent mafia/terrorist bosses by large that undermine the Iraqi state actively ever since 2003), are not at fault at all. Or that imposed system on Iraq post US-invasion, is a wonderful thing.

Well, it is a wonderful thing for those entities that want to meddle in Iraq and do it and we have 2 key examples of such entities that I already mentioned. Each has its own pet (to a degree) in the so-called KRG, that they can use and sometimes, at certain periods often, as leverage against Baghdad.

A simple " Make Iraq Great Again"
As you know me, if I want to say something, whatever is Pro or Anti, i will say it, I don't hide.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

Attacking foreign diplomatic sites is a Khomeini thing, Basra is doing what the leader did.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Attacking foreign diplomatic sites is a Khomeini thing, Basra is doing what the leader did.

I don't think that a single Iraqi/Saudi Arabian embassy or consulate (in history) has been burned or attacked abroad aside from in Iran.

But yeah, those protestors who did it, just learnt it from the Mullah regime. The masters of burning embassies/consulates of other countries.

BTW, burning down various facilities (state institutions) in Basra is not ideal at all but given the mismanagement in that province and what people are struggling with (basics) I understand why the youth are angry. Especially given that 80% of Iraq's oil and gas originates in that province of the country. Those are legitimate protests that have not turned violent (as in physical) from the part of the protestors other than in terms of them attacking property. Often property of trash and harmful entities. The army/riot police should have shown better restraintment although casualties are very low which is the most important thing. Although it was sad to see soldiers/police officers (as civilians) dying after taking part in protests.

A simple " Make Iraq Great Again"
As you know me, if I want to say something, whatever is Pro or Anti, i will say it, I don't hide.

Of course. Returned home late. It's Saturday. My fault.

Just like me then. Although you seem to be able to handle stupidity, insults etc. online far better than I do which is somewhat surprising as I am quite tolerant in real life.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

I don't think that a single Iraqi/Saudi Arabian embassy or consulate (in history) has been burned or attacked abroad aside from in Iran.

But yeah, those protestors who did it, just learnt it from the Mullah regime. The masters of burning embassies/consulates of other countries.

BTW, burning down various facilities (state institutions) in Basra is not ideal at all but given the mismanagement in that province and what people are struggling with (basics) I understand why the youth are angry. It is legitimate protests that have not turned violent (as in physical) from the part of the protestors other than in terms of them attacking property. Often property of trash and harmful entities.



Of course. Returned home late. It's Saturday. My fault.

Just like me then. Although you seem to be able to handle stupidity, insults etc. online far better than I do which is somewhat surprising as I am quite tolerant in real life.

Iraq's embassy in London has been attacked by, K0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0ords both in the 90's and 2017 when Kirkuk was taken

 

[HannibalBarca]

Of course. Returned home late. It's Saturday. My fault.

Just like me then. Although you seem to be able to handle stupidity, insults etc. online far better than I do which is somewhat surprising as I am quite tolerant in real life.

My little secret... Is that I found it entertaining... I secretly enjoy it, since I can play with them till I get bored...

I don' t really like to say that...but I do enjoy using them when I feel it..

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Iraq's embassy in London has been attacked by, K0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0ords both in the 90's and 2017 when Kirkuk was taken

That is true but it was (in comparison) children playing, lol.

Actually I was a bit quick before. Mullah regime funded/supported/created Dawa Islamic Party (suicide bombing in a Muslim context was invented by the Mullah regime and its allies as well) used a suicide bomber to attack Iraq's embassy in Lebanon which killed 61 people and wounded 100 back in 1981.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1981_Iraqi_embassy_bombing

There were other attacks. I remember Kuwait but don't bother to Google this.

Anyway I was talking about masses attacking embassies here mostly when I wrote my initial comment. Never mind. Nobody can have a perfect memory.

Obviously this order was given by the Mulalh regime due to it having occurred in 1981 (when the war was going on).

Imagine, post 2003, all those traitors that were behind such terrorist attacks against Iraqi institutions, individuals etc. in numerous Arab countries, West etc. are mostly walking free (those that were not dealt with prior to 2003) while 2-3 millions of patriots (former soldiers, police, public officials etc.) by large were declared "traitors" (LOL) overnight after 2003 and to this day are demonized by the Mullah cancers and their incompetent gangs while such traitors and their incompetence and actual terrorism, is tolerated and even celebrated by those same Mullahs. A crazy world.

My little secret... Is that I found it entertaining... I secretly enjoy it, since I can play with them till I get bored...

I don' t really like to say that...but I do enjoy using them when I feel it..

Yes, the times that I have caught myself reading your posts when dealing with the trolls, they seem completely ignorant of you actually making a mockery out of them. Without using many insults at that too. Great stuff.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

If Iran just stayed in its own borders a lot of deaths would have been prevented.

That is true but it was (in comparison) children playing, lol.

Actually I was a bit quick before. Mullah regime funded/supported/created Dawa Islamic Party (suicide bombing in a Muslim context was invented by the Mullah regime and its allies as well) used a suicide bomber to attack Iraq's embassy in Lebanon which killed 61 people and wounded 100 back in 1981.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1981_Iraqi_embassy_bombing

There were other attacks. I remember Kuwait but don't bother to Google this.

Anyway I was talking about masses attacking embassies here mostly when I wrote my initial comment. Never mind. Nobody can have a perfect memory.

Obviously this order was given by the Mulalh regime due to it having occurred in 1981 (when the war was going on).

Imagine, post 2003, all those traitors that were behind such terrorist attacks against Iraqi institutions, individuals etc. in numerous Arab countries, West etc. are mostly walking free (those that were not dealt with prior to 2003) while 2-3 millions of patriots (former soldiers, police, officials etc.) by large were declared "traitors" (LOL) overnight after 2003 and to this day are demonized by the Mullah cancers and their incompetent gangs while such traitors and their incompetence and actual terrorism, is tolerated and even celebrated by those same Mullahs. A crazy world.

Hundreds of Iraq's air force pilots were suddenly being assasinated after 2003. And here we have Iranians lecturing me on how much Iran has done for Iraq, selling a few crates of ammo. We wouldn't need that shit in the first place if not for Maliki (Iranian boy) fuckups.

What a cu*t regime. Backwards, hangs its own people on cranes.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

If Iran just stayed in its own borders a lot of deaths would have been prevented.


Hundreds of Iraq's air force pilots were suddenly being assasinated after 2003. And here we have Iranians lecturing me on how much Iran has done for Iraq, selling a few crates of ammo. We wouldn't need that shit in the first place if not for Maliki (Iranian boy) fuckups.

What a cu*t regime. Backwards, hangs its own people on cranes.

Yes, who can forget that.

Iraq was a few months away from developing nuclear weapons (most likely) over 3 decades ago and here Iraqis are supposedly obliged to celebrate some reversed engineered or copied ammunition that the state used to produce in the millions ages ago. A joke. All while forgetting that Mullah meddling/influence in Iraq is cancerous by large overall. Speaking about those volunteers and advisers, actually most of them or at least a lot of them (to make matters even more funny or tragicomical) were Iranian Arabs. Basically modern-day Iraqis and Saudi Arabians with Iranian passports.....

Looking for "martyrdom" at old age.

Al-Maliki (someone I have disliked since almost always) was indeed a bad chapter in the history of the country. Although, even I have to say this (despite cursing him often), not everything was his work alone. Far from it. But he turned a blind eye to it and what occurred was part of his personal crusade as the old Dawa Party member (key member) that he was.

Tragicomically (yet again) that guy was hosted in Northern KSA when 200.000 + Iraqi Shia Arabs escaped to KSA next door during the Uprisings in the South in 1991.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_uprisings_in_Iraq

KSA had good ties with his family though (strangely enough). During the Iraqi-British war almost 100 years ago, a lot of support entered Southern Iraq from KSA. This is not much known.

Al-Malikis grandfather was also closely aligned to the early governments (of an independent Iraq) during the earliest period of the monarchy already in fact.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Hasan_Abi_al-Mahasin

60 years later his grandson was fighting against his own country and flesh and blood and supporting/planning the first suicide attacks (in relation to Muslims) in history. 85 years later his grandson was ruling Iraq and creating a mess (deliberately) due to his own personal crusade (by large).

 

[khansaheeb]

It's deeper than that, the protests are really serious and picking up momentum. The people are frustrated with all parties and religious clergy of Iraq apparently. So no doubt they're tired of corruption, but also parties/organizations monopoly on resources/wealth in Iraq. And other factors contributing to mismanagement. There should be a separate thread for these demonstrations in Iraq.

and they thought Saddam was bad, lol

Israel is just defending it's boundaries.

Lol, Israel doesn't have boundaries, neither Physical or Moral.

 

[ranawat]

and they thought Saddam was bad, lol



Lol, Israel doesn't have boundaries, neither Physical or Moral.

Your perspective, Israel is a powerful state it can deal with all it's enemies.

 

[Rukarl]

Iraq needs to be mullah and shia-free.

 

[sammuel]

Here on PDF the Iranian Mullah supporters (almost every Iranian user, even those that live in the West) are living in their own little fantasy world where not only Shia Arabs but Arabs from Palestine to Yemen, are in love with their failed regime. The regime that most local Iranians curse in the real world due to 40 years of misery (by large) as well.

I was wondering about that myself .

If you look at the Iranian section on this forum it looks like it came straight out of the mullah regime propaganda sites like farce news and oppress tv ...

It is all about Iran military achievements and the mullah unveiling some weapon. Seriously half the posts their are about the mullahs unveiling something.

If only they allowed their woman to unveil with the same ease they unveil those weapons , we could all breath much more easily.

Nothing about the real situation in Iran or how real Iranians feel about events. I was wondering if real Iranians even come to this forum or is this site banned by the mullahs as they have banned most of the social media in Iran.

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