Iran retaliates to Indian oil cut plans

[Mugwop]

Lol...ungrateful Iranians!! We stood against American sanctions to buy oil from you!!
We'll see who will buy your oil when next round of sanctions come up!!

It would cost you more if you didn't!

 

[Mr.Nair]

India is developing its own oil pipeline to meet countries demand, one such story as below

Construction of the world's longest continously heated and insulated oil pipeline

@HeinzG @Arminkh @Luffy 500 @war&peace @Sharif al-Hijaz @Taimoor Khan @RazaGujjar @AZADPAKISTAN2009 @Muhammad Omar @DavidSling @Farah Sohail @Mrc @Vergennes @samv

 

[Cthulhu]

The 1979 Revolution was probably the worst fvck up that we could ever come up with in our history. Thanks to Akhond's foreign policy we fvcked our relationship with the west and turned them into our enemies. Now we got stuck with counties like Russia, China and India and they are exploiting our situation cause we don't have any alternative.

 

[Chellam]

no i am not talking about this, i am talking about when you were not paying for few years due to sanctions, you only paid for 45% that too in your shitty rupees and some $6 or 7 billions were still due on your side recently.

we are dealing with Iran in Indian rupee only, or they can buy Indian good's except Weapons

this is agreement made with Iran,

 

[JOEY TRIBIANI]

Lol...ungrateful Iranians!! We stood against American sanctions to buy oil from you!!
We'll see who will buy your oil when next round of sanctions come up!!

You avail the opportunity of getting cheap oil from a country sanctioned by un.

 

[Chellam]

You avail the opportunity of getting cheap oil from a country sanctioned by un.

Your all weather Friend also done the same thing,

 

[Kapwercs]

India is developing its own oil pipeline to meet countries demand, one such story as below

Construction of the world's longest continously heated and insulated oil pipeline

@HeinzG @Arminkh @Luffy 500 @war&peace @Sharif al-Hijaz @Taimoor Khan @RazaGujjar @AZADPAKISTAN2009 @Muhammad Omar @DavidSling @Farah Sohail @Mrc @Vergennes @samv

Electrical heating elements have been used for decades for heating furnace oil pipelines in indian industry . FO is quite viscous .

 

[egodoc222]

so you benefited from those sanctions, you were not doing any favour at all. you benefited heavily with delayed payment. @egodoc222 then why call them ungrateful when they owe you nothing? instead you should be thankful.

Lol why should we be thankful...we can buy oil from anywhere we want...Saudi is begging us to buy oil from them...we bought oil from Iran just as a friendly gesture...!
Taking advantage?! Then why didn't any other country apart from us buy oil from Iran!! Did they do favor to Iran by cutting their oil imports? Including china!!

It would cost you more if you didn't!

If we didn't buy oil from them...they would've had to drink their own oil since no one is buying them...including your country!

You avail the opportunity of getting cheap oil from a country sanctioned by un.

Question is.... why no other country availed the cheap bumper offer??

 

[Prince of Dorne]

Iran found out India doesn't really have the money it portrays it has.

Anything that India offers Iran China and Pakistan together can dwarf it

China alone can dwarf it, Pakistan should not be even mentioned in the same sentence with money TBH.

 

[Mr.Nair]

Electrical heating elements have been used for decades for heating furnace oil pipelines in indian industry . FO is quite viscous .

Pumping 700 Km and acquiring land for most populous country with multiple geographical obstacle is the challenging and most difficult engineering task

 

[JOEY TRIBIANI]

Question is.... why no other country availed the cheap bumper offer??

Lack of baniya mentality .

 

[Peshwa]

Its the basics of any business deal.
Larger orders and Long term commitments get you better deals and cash discounts from your suppliers.
We cut the oil imports, they decreased credit terms and waived the discounted freight. Its quite simple!
Don't see what Iran did wrong and don't see what India did that was so harmful to Iranian interests?! If India expected any different, it would be stupidity on their part and if Iran kept the same terms, it would be "too generous" on theirs.

Pakistanis on this thread seem to exhibit a lack of business acumen (which might explain the larger trend of Pakistan's economic woes) and have a very myopic view most situations.

India and Iran will continue business as usual and our relations will only improve with several key projects taking off in the next few years. Our relationship is not limited to Oil!

 

[Śakra]

The 1979 Revolution was probably the worst fvck up that we could ever come up with in our history. Thanks to Akhond's foreign policy we fvcked our relationship with the west and turned them into our enemies. Now we got stuck with counties like Russia, China and India and they are exploiting our situation cause we don't have any alternative.

U put yourself in a position to be used so don't be surprised you are being used. Not our fault we want to maximize our gains and minimize our loses.

 

[Cthulhu]

U put yourself in a position to be used so don't be surprised you are being used. Not our fault we want to maximize our gains and minimize our loses.

What do you think i wrote?

 

[Flash_Ninja]

...are you kidding me?? Even you know your invitation is farce...if you were serious you would have involved us much earlier.....and why CPEC...we were denied even a simple land route to Afghanistan......why even land route...you failed to even give us an MFN status...a status that we gave you in 90's and something that every country gives to every other country...look we can both look south or state facts...you take a pick...

The invitation was not completely serious, but its clear the establishment were floating the idea out there to see if India would pick up on it, If India did agree to join then I dont see why Pak government would oppose that. Even the Chinese foreign minister commented on it, recommending India join the project.

I believe Pakistan opted for CPEC for economic reasons

Obviously

What you mean by stagnant...Obviously there is a limit of things you could do when Iran was heavily sanctioned...you can track the progress of proposed gas pipeline b/w Iran and Pakistan and you will know what I mean.. ....Just for records Chahbahar port b/w India and Iran was first coined in 2003

true, there are limits with what you could do with Iran, but why would India care? In addition to Chabhar, you were buying Iranian oil and Gas in large quantities, in fact Iran had become India's second largest oil supplier during the height of sanctions. Only under pressure from Americans did that number (allegedly) decrease in 2012. The Iranian deal lifted the sanctions on Iranian oil, and allowed Iran to trade with the rest of the world, but like I said India was already doing those things anyway and was trading with Iran via the ACU

now CPEC was formally announced in 2014(correct me if i am wrong here)... ..so are you saying that our leadership thought about Chahbahar port in 2003 so that they can isolate you in 2016 against a project announced in 2014??

The idea of a China-Pakistan corridor and port has been floating around since the creation of Pakistan, but only really pushed for officially by the Musharraf and Zardari governments. In 2013 agreements were signed, and Chinese officials announced the funding in 2014.

Now, Chabahar by that point was already operational, but Indian projects had been going at a slow pace, suddenly in mid-2016 when Gwadar Port was about to become operational Modi went to Iran and tried to revive the project.

Is it really that far-fetched to think that in the year and a half since the Chinese announcement that India suddenly thought that they need to get Iran on their side? What else explained the sudden spike in awareness, and attempt to revive Iran ties?

Now here is more logical explanation...we always wanted access to central Asia...one has to be nuts to not expand your trade horizons...With Pakistan an arch rival and AF under Taliban there was a deadlock and once they were ousted it makes perfect sense that our leadership started talking to Iran about Chahbahar in 2003

If its really about trying to trade with Central Asia, you realise thats impossible that is without indirectly supporting the Taliban? They control a significant amount of Afghanistan and are holding the highways connecting Iran to Afghanistan. Any kind of risk assessment would have immediately thrown this project out since logically it goes against interests to fund the Taliban, but instead India decides to announce it again in 2016 with the Afghan government on the brink of defeat? Clearly there are bigger intentions behind it.

Regardless linking this to Pakistan isolation is absurd...

Its what your own people are saying. Every single time Indian media talks about Chahabar they also bring up CPEC, all your political analysts call it a 'counter' to Gwadar port, even your politicians are demanding that funding be expedited because Gwadar was already functional.

Why continuously bring up Gwadar and CPEC whenever Chahabar is mentioned if that ridiculous 'isolation policy' is not the purpose?