Iran protesters chanting ‘DEATH to Rouhani’ and raise slogans against Khamenei

[mahatir]

Shah Iran supported Kurds in Iraq only when it had border conflict with Iraq. Once dispute was solved they stopped all kind of support. So Shah Iran was very pragmatic and thinking only about its own business.

Mullah Iran on the other hand is supporting terror groups and even directly intervenes in countries that have no any dispute with Iran.

You can also see it in the way they use oil money. Shah Iran was investing everything in own economy, Mullah Iran throws hundreds of billions around. Here the results:

GDP per capita, US $:

1978
Iran - 2,168
Turkey - 1,549

2016
Iran - 4,683
Turkey - 10,743

Islamist led governments have always failed to run efficiently any state and this applies on failed states in Gaza and Sudan , Iran is no exception .

I do not care if Iran economy is good or bad , all I want to see is the lesser of 2 evils ruling Iran . The persians hate Arabs with deep passion and they believe in greater persian which consists of parts of Iraq , UAE , whole of Bahrain and eatern Saudi Arabia.

Both ways whether Iran is ruled by Islamists or Secular Persians they will be hostile towards Arabs the only difference Islamists will be less in their hatred. Iran influence only increased after the stupid USA government invaded Iraq and handed it over to be ruled by Iranian influenced parties. If Saddam regime continued non of this mess would have occurred.

If the Iranian regime falls we can except a Shia version of Isis and they will focus solely on carrying out terrorist attacks in Arab Gulf states , we certainly cannot afford to have this situation and should stay out of Iran internal conflicts .

Why do you think Israel did not take down Assad regime even though they had the capacity ?
The Israeli internal intelligence understand that if Assad falls extremist organizations will be on Israel border and will drag Israel into a long conflict that has no end.

Israel should take out Terrorist Hezbollah organization first before thinking about Iran.

Interesting observation there.
However I disagree with some of your points. Even if Persian nationalists were to topple the iranian mullah led islamists regime(something I don't think will happen) , they will not intervene in Arab affairs like the current iranian Islamic government. These secular Persian nationalists will be more of a modern version of the Shah. During the secular Shah era Iran was not only more Liberal but the country had no major issues with other Arab states including Saudi Arabia. There was no real sectarian /proxy wars between Sunni led monarchy KSA and Shia led mullah Iran like there is today. Reason being that the former secular Shah regime was never a religious led regime and so they never used the Shia religious card to secure Shia militias and proxies in the region to further their interests.

So even if these Persian nationalists were to miraculously topple the current regime and seize power (I personally dont believe that is possible) I don't see why you think they will be worse than the current regime in carrying on with the sectarian proxy war between Iran and KSA in the region. Shia militias and proxies like Hezbollah in Lebanon , Houthis in Yemen, shia militias in PMF and Nujaba Movement in Iraq and many other poor shias recruited from Afghanistan and Pakistan to fight in the region for the country. All these elements won't be attracted to the iranian shia islamists narrative anymore if Iran ever ceased to be an Islamic Republic defending shias in the region and became a secular Persian Republic. The attraction won't be there anymore, and this will lead to a situation where Iran will have to cede alot of its influence and presence in these Arab states in the region.
So ironically a secular persian nationalist Iran will lead to an Iran that will be more like a Turkey(judging by the fact that Iranians seem to be more open and Liberal in their views than many Muslim countries) than a Pakistan for example. That's my opinion.

What do you think will happen to the millions of Iranians who are well armed and support the Iranian regime if the regime falls ?

They will certainly turn into an extremist Shia version of Isis and carry out deadly terrorist attacks in Gulf Arab states and I did not include the remaining Shia Arab and Pakistani militias loyal to Iran , they will certainly carry out revenge attacks against US and British interests throughout the region.

Russia would never allow a pro USA government to rule Iran and threaten their interests in Central Asia , also China would resist to save their Chinese road belt project.

I dont think these protests succeed anyway Turkish Seculars following Ataturk do not really give a crap about Arabs and mind their own business. Secular Turkey was far more friendly towards Arab countries than Ottman empire or currently Erdogan aggressive regime.

Secular Turks fought to build a modern Turkish state while Secular persians are fighting to revenge from anything related to Islam including conservative Iranians and general Arab public , they are crazy and out of their mind .

I would love to see Conservative Turks losing power in Turkey but the situation in Iran is totally different . Personally I am more worried from Erdogan than the Mullah regime in Iran , he has caused far more distruction than Iran especially that he supported and created Isis and other extremist organizations .

 

[skyshadow]

You've never been to Israel or Saudia or lived in Israeli/Saudian society yet you still judge both of them. Practice what you preach.

No, I've never been there and I do not have any comment on them. But they're talking like they've been living in Iran for thousands of years and they are quite familiar with Iranian culture. I'm telling them the truth. There will be no revolution, because the majority of the people of Iran support the Islamic state of iran and their only problem is the economic situation and bad economic management. The Arabs think that if Iranian protests are supported, Iran's influence will be stopped, but they are wrong because Iran has such a great influence in the Middle East. Now imagine Iran free from sanctions and friend with the United States and Israel, then the whole world will be Anti-Arabs.

Hey what's happening in Iran right now?

I am seeing many twitter videos claiming protesters are chanting "We don't want Islamic Republic" or "death to Ayatullah" and "Not Gaza, not Lebanon, first Iran"...and things like that.

is there some sort of national uprising against the state/government/regime?

Please Iranian members, share your insights and clear up the situation..

There are protests in Iran against the bad economic situation . But few people are demonstrating against the Islamic regime in Iran and they are illegally start to attack police and public property and mosques. Today is the anniversary of 2009, The day the demonstration began due to the presidential elections, but later on against Islam in Iran. This means that all the supporters of the Islamic Republic will go to the streets, tens of millions, to stop those who are having trouble with Islam and want to establish an anti-Islamic government in Iran.

 

[SubWater]

I firmly believe that a secular state order is the best form of self governing for any nation. But what makes you believe secularism would work for a country like Iran with her unique and diverse demographic composition?
To make things even more complicated, you have many neighboring countries who would immediately take advantage of your mistakes and your resources.
Turks, Kurds, Arabs, Balooch - why would these groups prefere to live in a Persian secular state if they easily could join their siblings on the other side of the border?
Why do you think that the post Islamic order in Iran would be based on Iranian nationalism rather than Persian nationalism? Why should non-Iranian groups like Arabs, Turks and Balooch people accept a pan-Iranian nationalism in the first place? These are questions I always wanted to ask secular Iranians/Persians. It'll be great if you care to answer my questions. I would appreciate it very much.

I am not agree with @Surenas and his view about Iran future but I strongly salute him b/c of his patriotism, we need more man like him in Iran.
about your question we actually do not have equal word or concept for "persian" as ethnic, we call Farsi and that is name of language not ethnic in Iran. even in Iran literature you find word Iran not Persia. Persia concept enter Iran in 19th century from Europe specially German literature.

also we learned in schools that ancient Iran formed as alliance among media, Parthia and Pars(root of word persia) and after that we can not hear about them in history b/c they are Iran.

also below link will help you to understand today Iran.

 

[mahatir]

The link below one from Iranian opposition burning a mosque , we can now start to have an understanding of who is behind this mess.

https://twitter.com/x/status/944607131143163905

Brave Iranian police facing opposition holigans

https://twitter.com/x/status/946703572368068608

Iranian CIA opposition rioting in the streets .

https://twitter.com/x/status/946673902851448832

Iranian protestor is attempting to intimidate Iranian security forces but the iranian police have not responded in a professional way.

https://twitter.com/x/status/946793119806296064

There were big pro-government protests today in Iran, I will post videos later.

 

[Clutch]

Seems like a CIA coordinated "Iranian Spring".

I am no fan of the Mullah regime and I dont have a dog in this fight.

I hope whatever the outcome... its something that is from Iran, for Iran, and by Iran.

Unfortunately, the tweeting baffoon in the White House has made it clear... this is CIA orchestrated to put iran into another iraq type... or syria type conflict of total destruction. Hope the iranians can see through the smoke and mirrors.

 

[Muhammed45]

is it anti regime protest or anti government? because the differences are huge and outside forces can use it to paint a false picture in Iran @mohammad45 @AmirPatriot

It is due to corruption of government. However some youth are saying irrelevant slogans. In Mashahd city people gathered to denounce corruption of government also in other cities. I'll open a thread about it

Moreover, i would participate in peaceful anti government protests, i may bring up some self videos to this website

 

[mahatir]

It is due to corruption of government. However some youth are saying irrelevant slogans. In Mashahd city people gathered to denounce corruption of government also in other cities. I'll open a thread about it

Moreover, i would participate in peaceful anti government protests, i may bring up some self videos to this website

Stay away from the ultra secular crowd , they burned 2 basij mosques and some protestors attacks police for no reason.

https://twitter.com/x/status/947034701562368001

Pro-government/regime supporters have protested today, it was big compared to opposition.

 

[AmirPatriot]

is it anti regime protest or anti government? because the differences are huge and outside forces can use it to paint a false picture in Iran @mohammad45 @AmirPatriot

It was first a protest against the government's economic policies but soon broadened into protest against the Islamic Republic in general.

 

[Rukarl]

Stay away from the ultra secular crowd , they burned 2 basij mosques and some protestors attacks police for no reason.

https://twitter.com/x/status/947034701562368001

Pro-government/regime supporters have protested today, it was big compared to opposition.

Nothing you can do about it. Continue barking. Or be a cannon fodder for the IR regime. LOL

Millions of Iranians are willing to die for the current regime . The protests now are mainly about domestic issues and I don't think it will change the Iranian Islamic regime . Islam is what unites most Iran ethnic groups together and provided better rights for Azeri turks and Arabs compared to the nationalist Persian governments

May the Islamic Republic continue the bloodshed in Arab countries. That is what you want right ?

 

[mahatir]

Nothing you can do about it. Continue barking. Or be a cannon fodder for the IR regime. LOL

Bloodshed in Arab countries is caused by stupid Shia and sunni Arabs who allowed usa ; Russia ; Iran ; turkey and Qatar to interfere in their countries . Even if Islamic regime did not exist there would still be bloodshed.
May the Islamic Republic continue the bloodshed in Arab countries. That is what you want right ?

Nothing you can do about it. Continue barking. Or be a cannon fodder for the IR regime. LOL


May the Islamic Republic continue the bloodshed in Arab countries. That is what you want right ?

Basij Will hang your type sooner or later ; you can dream about ruling Iran

 

[bdslph]

wonder how much CIA MOssad paid for this

 

[mahatir]

wonder how much CIA MOssad paid for this

I have videos showing protestor attacking police first they are asking for trouble .

 

[Full Moon]

The destruction of the Arab world has been the single greatest achievement of the Iranian clerical regime.

Second to imposing severe poverty on Iranians and pushing them towards selling their ladies in Dubai for some dollars.

 

[Sina-1]

Second to imposing severe poverty on Iranians and pushing them towards selling their ladies in Dubai for some dollars.

butthurt much?

 

[Winchester]

The Iranians have to find a middle ground when it comes to role of religion in the country. The division between the secularists and the conservatives is even deeper than in Turkey.