Iran Navy rescues Chinese container ship from pirates

[Sanchez]

How could you be so oblivious and ignorant ? Telling Iranians or other middle easterners that you sold *** to Saudi is like telling Chinese you sold *** to Japan. Can't you see it? people from that region don't wanna hear that.

You are wrong and ignorant. Just search Chinese Internet to get some knowledge about the story of DF-3 to SA. Don't use stupid and childish "logic".

 

[tonyget]

Just search Chinese Internet to get some knowledge about the story of DF-3 to SA.

That's not the point isn't it ?

 

[conworldus]

China will put full support behind Iran, the descendants of an old civilization and the only country besides Syria committed to fight the terrorist ISIS.

 

[applesauce]

Lool what do you mean by China will lose strategically if it sells /transfer ICBM missiles/technology to Iran? Lool
So selling to the Saudi won't make you lose l 'strategically '? Lol As I said you need to look for a better excuse to give iran.

missiles sold to SA are not icbms

The thing is you do need permission from the U. S to sell to Saudi Arabia (especially regarding such an offensive /dangerous weapon possessed by just a few select countries ). You think Saudi Arabia and China made the deal without U. S approval /consent? Lool of course they didn't. You still don't understand that the U. S controls basically the whole middle east/arab countries bar the few 2 or so I mentioned earlier (though with Syria's civil war/recent U. S military strikes that might change to a need pro U. S government ).

again, no, not at all.
china itself does not need american approval. Saudia Arabia might. you got your head pretty deep in the sand if you think the US can just tell china what it can and cannot sell to who it likes. the US does not have that kind of leverage over china.

heck the prior deal, china sold df-3 to SA and the american make a big stink over it

As for China, it's sure it's an economic super power already, but militarily and diplomatically its still a midget/dwarf compared to the U. S /west. So your leaders know better not to go against the U. S, reason why when the U. S pressured them they had to agree to imposed sanctions on their own ally(or business partner as you called it) Iran. If china was so strong independent as you think why don't they just carry on selling weapons to IRAN like before? Lol, after all, the U. S will never agree to stop arms sales to a country because of China or Russis.

i would agree that the US has more influence, but then again china cares far more about its own neighborhood than the middle east. china is not yet ready to get in the middle east mess. and yea, weapons sales to Taiwan has been basically impossible due to china pressure on the Europeans, and massively limited due to chinese pressure on the americans. thats how the game is play, you give up some far away to gain some nearer to home.

The hell even the 'stuborn' Russians agreed to the sanction when pressured by the mighty U. S, they even suspended the sale of S-300 missile they had signed with Iran and many other military sales .

So never underestimate the might/influence of the American eagle bro.

russia got stuff in return, the missile shield in europe for example (which is now in doubt due to urkraine problems)[/quote]

We Already have ICBM technology!

Is this a strategically lose for China !?

icbm is 5500km+ range, iran has no proven missiles in this class. while it can send small loads to space, the payload is too small to be useful.

and yes it would be bad for china to transfer such technology without getting something major in return, because everyone from the americans to the saudi's will be making a lot of noise over it, so china would be given out sensitive tech without getting anything good in return

 

[Beidou2020]

It's better for Iran in the long term that they become self sufficient instead of buying weapons from others.
China needs to send scientists and engineers to Iran to help them develop their military-industrial complex.
I'm pretty sure China has been transferring blueprints to Iran to give them the know-how on how to build weapons they want.

China can help Iranian military by:
1) sending Chinese scientists, engineers, technicians and other experts to Iran.
2) transfer weapons blueprints to Iran.

Iran might not be able to get the full weapon but they can get the Chinese expertise and know-how and they can built it themselves.

Iran has strong reverse engineering capabilities, so they know how to build the weapon themselves.

 

[SOHEIL]

U give China a suprise, or China give a suprise to YOU ? Do it as far as u can, what Iran ballistic missile u feel Japan will interest ?

It was just an example!

I know Japan is a puppet!

 

[SOHEIL]

As far as China is concerned Iran can do business with anyone it wants. And Iran is already doing business with Japan, India, Vietnam and others that China has issue's with. No one in China or the Chinese members here on these forum complain about it.

It's not a normal business!

Anyway... Time passing so fast!

icbm is 5500km+ range, iran has no proven missiles in this class. while it can send small loads to space, the payload is too small to be useful.

and yes it would be bad for china to transfer such technology without getting something major in return, because everyone from the americans to the saudi's will be making a lot of noise over it, so china would be given out sensitive tech without getting anything good in return

Yes... Not proven for public!

But upcoming space launchers will prove so much!

Stay tuned

 

[SOHEIL]

It's better for Iran in the long term that they become self sufficient instead of buying weapons from others.
China needs to send scientists and engineers to Iran to help them develop their military-industrial complex.
I'm pretty sure China has been transferring blueprints to Iran to give them the know-how on how to build weapons they want.

China can help Iranian military by:
1) sending Chinese scientists, engineers, technicians and other experts to Iran.
2) transfer weapons blueprints to Iran.

Iran might not be able to get the full weapon but they can get the Chinese expertise and know-how and they can built it themselves.

Iran has strong reverse engineering capabilities, so they know how to build the weapon themselves.

Last time China sold Iran's military secrets instead of an economical trade to USA & Israel !

We can't let any foreigners inside because a friend can be a cheater !

Hezbullah is the only trust able partner !

Even Syria sold Iranian made radars software codes to Russia instead of ...

This is happening everywhere... Israelis cheating USA... USA cheating Europeans & ...

 

[jkroo]

Last time China sold Iran's military secrets instead of an economical trade to USA & Israel !

We can't let any foreigners inside because a friend can be a cheater !

Hezbullah is the only trust able partner !

Even Syria sold Iranian made radars software codes to Russia instead of ...

This is happening everywhere... Israelis cheating USA... USA cheating Europeans & ...

Any evidence? please.

 

[SOHEIL]

Any evidence? please.

Experience!

You can deny...

 

[jkroo]

Experience!

You can deny...

Its just weird.

Any Hints?

 

[SOHEIL]

Its just weird.

Any Hints?

There's nothing weird in this world!

Look at USA!

They created ISIL terrorist ... Now they want to destroy ISIL!

Hundred thousands died in Syria only for United States interests !

So did i say anything weird!?

 

[jkroo]

There's nothing weird in this world!

Look at USA!

They created ISIL terrorist ... Now they want to destroy ISIL!

Hundred thousands died in Syria only for United States interests !

So did i say anything weird!?

What US do is obvious to destablize ME. We saw too much.
I just concern that part between China & Iran what you say China sold Iran's secrets. How many secrets do China know about Iran?

 

[Sanchez]

ahahahahah....are you serious or you are joking bro?
selling DF21 to Saudi arabia is to break U.S monopoly? Do you know that it is the U.S who gave both Saudi Arabia and China the green light for this sale to take place? If they U.S had said No to this deal, then it would never have happened in the first place, Same with the Turkish missile defence system you are trying to sell Turkey, if the U.S is really against the deal, then im sure it won't go through believe me.
You seem to underestimate the leverage/influence the U.S has over all arab middle eastern countries(bar a few stubborn ones like Iran, Syria), even with big China the U.S has lots of leverage/influence to persuade/pressure it to sanction its ally Iran talk much less of little Arab states.
So i advice you to look for a better excuse to Iran for the missile sale to the Saudis.

China never sold DF-21 to anyone!!!

In 1980s SA didn't even have diplomatic relationship with China. The deal of DF-3 was just for the money as well as establishment of an oil trade relationship with SA. It had nothing to do with US approval. You must be retarded to think that way regardless so much information available now about the event.

 

[Sanchez]

You don't know the history !

Go & read about the C-802 story which you promised to transfer completely but end up without searching radars & other subsystems because of US pressure!

And you don't know what your guys said when we asked help in space technology ...

they said space technology is so much for Iranians!

How can I feel good about China when I see your cheating policies!?

You sold DF-21 to Arabs because you know they are unable to handle that without your help!

Iranians are so self proud and history blind. Don't you forget that Iran was pro-west first and then anti China until 1980s.

About c802 your country swept all the c802，or actually c802 + YJ82 missiles from China's stockpile. If you did not get the radars and subsystems how could you start production of xx in Iran? Your missile tech are basically Chinese or North Korean origin. Be thankful to Russians, Chinese as well as N Koreans if you have a problem with US.

China gave away a number of "secrets" to friends in middle east but as a return, we are often either sold off or denied by them.

Iran had traditionally been iron ally to US and then Soviet. China was even below positions of Japan, India on your friends list. Wtf do you think you should ask help for space tech from China and get it without question?

What have we got from Iranians? Oil that we paid for, nothing else.