Iran joins Turkey, Iraq in opposing KRG independence vote

[KediKesenFare3]

Iran joins Turkey, Iraq in opposing KRG independence vote
FRENCH PRESS AGENCY - AFP
TEHRAN
Published June 10, 2017

KRG President Massoud Barzani meets with political party representatives from KRG Parliament in the town of Salahaddin near Irbil, northern Iraq, June 09, 2017. (AA Photo)
Iran voiced its opposition on Saturday to an announcement by northern Iraq's autonomous Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) that it will organize a vote on independence later this year.

"Iran's principal position is to support the territorial integrity of Iraq," foreign ministry spokesman Bahram Ghasemi said.

"The Kurdistan region is part of the Iraqi republic and unilateral decisions outside the national and legal framework, especially the Iraqi constitution... can only lead to new problems."

Iraqi Kurdish leaders announced on Wednesday that they will organize an independence referendum on September 25, not only in their three-province autonomous region but also in other historically Kurdish-majority areas they have long sought to incorporate in it.

Iran worries about separatism among its own Kurds, most of whom live in areas along the border with Iraq.

Rebels of the Kurdistan Democratic Party of Iran (KDPI) and the Party of Free Life of Kurdistan (PJAK), the Iranian affiliate of the PKK terrorist group, launch sporadic attacks into Iran from rear-bases in Iraq, triggering sometimes deadly clashes with the security forces.

After an upsurge attacks in 2011, Iranian troops launched a cross-border incursion, forcing KDPI to retreat deeper into Iraq.

The federal government in Baghdad is deeply opposed to the referendum plan of the regional government in Irbil, as is neighboring Turkey, which has a large Kurdish minority of its own. Turkish officials have defined the move to hold the referendum as "irresponsible" and "grave mistake" amid the turmoil in the region.

Washington has expressed concern that it could distract from the joint fight against the Daesh group by stoking tensions between the Kurds, and Arabs and Turkmen in northern Iraq.

"An integrated, stable and democratic Iraq guarantees the interests of the whole people (of Iraq) from all ethnic and religious groups," Ghasemi said.

"Today, Iraq more than ever needs peace and national unity and differences between Arbil and Baghdad must be resolved within the framework of dialogue and in compliance with Iraq's constitution."
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[Malik Alashter]

We should let the kurds get independence then let the turks feel the consequences they helped to arise.

 

[GOLDENEAGLE1]

We should let the kurds get independence then let the turks feel the consequences they helped to arise.

They (kurds) are weak pmu can easily beat them

 

[Big Tank]

Kurds need to get a life.

 

[Malik Alashter]

They (kurds) are weak pmu can easily beat them

I know but we should never for the kurds been helped by erdo he is the one that should fix it why we endanger the lives of our men for the others
their independence wont hurt us at all but it 9hurt the Turks for sure.

 

[idune]

Timing of KRG seeking independence is part of broader chess move in ME geo politics. KRG,since Iraq invasion by US, is heavily influenced by israel and US and acting as their tool. This decision came on the heel of Turkish decision to deploy troops in Qatar. Overall ME scenarios where Iran, Iraq and Turkey are heavily engaged in Iraqi and Syrian theater, KRG perhaps instigated by israel and US to seek independence. Israel and US wanted to create another pressure point against Iran, Iraq and Turkey to save their terror asset ISIS. Besides, Kurdish elements in Syria (YPG/SDF mix) already co-operating with ISIS and letting them flee Raqqa.

This KRG move creating a powerful regional alliance that will go against US strategic interest. Question to ask, is US taking the impact of a Iran, Iraq, Turkey and Syria alliance into calculation or using KRG as bargaining chip against Turkey, Iraq and Iran? At the end of the day, KRG or Kurdish adventure will not be successful against 4 regional heavyweights with Russia holding their hand.

 

[KediKesenFare3]

I know but we should never for the kurds been helped by erdo he is the one that should fix it why we endanger the lives of our men for the others
their independence wont hurt us at all but it 9hurt the Turks for sure.

Cool logic. You want to punish Turkey by cutting off your own arm. Bro, brilliant.

 

[Muhammed45]

I know but we should never for the kurds been helped by erdo he is the one that should fix it why we endanger the lives of our men for the others
their independence wont hurt us at all but it 9hurt the Turks for sure.

Bro, i totally understand your concerns but if Kurds get independence, Iraq will lose it's northern oil infrastructures and more importantly, Kurds are well known to be an ally of Israel.
Kurdish independence is illegal, and hurts 4 countries, including Iran, Iraq, Turkey and Syria. During the Syrian civil war, American abusers built three medium military bases within Kurdish controlled areas.
Erdogan has a world of mistakes, he let NATO to misuse Turkey's boundaries and infiltrate in Syria and Iraq but Turkish people can be spared from this. Moreover you can see the difference between post coup Erdogan who feels betrayed by NATO and ISIS supporters.
The most important factor to me, is the sovereignty of Iraq, as i heard USA has an other base in Erbil. These Kurds especially Barezani need a rebuke. He has close ties with Al-Saud house and Tel Aviv, a well known fact

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

Territorial integerity of Turkey is imperative. Must be upheld at all costs.

Same goes for Iraq, Syria and Iran.

Enough blood has been spilled. No more need of Blood Borders.

Here is a great opportunity for Iran and Turkey to join hands and rise above secterian divide.

It is also in Pak's strategic interests that Turkey remains Turkey.

If Iran, Turkey and Pak can rise to the occasion and develop a truly free trade zone among themselves... Peace can pervail.

Also, Pak being in SCO now and Iran and down the road Turkey joining... means that Eurasian integeration can be complete.

So, I request the sane posters to support each other in the name of Civilisation and not to remain chained to secterian stone.

PDF is a good place to create a positive vibe....

All three countries are inheritors of great Civilisations....please, rise to the occasion and don't be manipulated by Evil.

 

[T-Rex]

Territorial integerity of Turkey is imperative. Must be upheld at all costs.

Same goes for Iraq, Syria and Iran.

Enough blood has been spilled. No more need of Blood Borders.

Here is a great opportunity for Iran and Turkey to join hands and rise above secterian divide.

It is also in Pak's strategic interests that Turkey remains Turkey.

If Iran, Turkey and Pak can rise to the occasion and develop a truly free trade zone among themselves... Peace can pervail.

Also, Pak being in SCO now and Iran and down the road Turkey joining... means that Eurasian integeration can be complete.

So, I request the sane posters to support each other in the name of Civilisation and not to remain chained to secterian stone.

PDF is a good place to create a positive vibe....

All three countries are inheritors of great Civilisations....please, rise to the occasion and don't be manipulated by Evil.

The House of Saud, israel and the US will try everything to stop that from happening.

 

[El Sidd]

The House of Saud, israel and the US will try everything to stop that from happening.

You have a weird fetish with the Saudis? or is it just the religious hate?

Sadly there is already a functional government and are pretty much sovereign in that triangle between Iraq-Iran-Syria. Own currency, own flag, own parliament and own military force.

The greed of war booty post 2003 was a bit too much for some nations and it is quite sad that cities with the longest continued history of human habitation are being deserted gradually. The curse of Oil and the greed of Power are a recipe of disaster but humans have a knack of taking the longer route to understand that.

Turkey however has dealt with the situation quite admiringly both strategically and politically and diplomatically. I would just be careful if i was Turkey not to get involved with wrong partners in their push for strategic depth in the region. My wholehearted wishes are for the Turkish nation on that.

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

The House of Saud, israel and the US will try everything to stop that from happening.

Dear T-rex,

What I respect about you is your consistent support for Sino-Pak Axis. This makes you a Sino-Pak Friend. I can only thank you for this.

As you know I don't belong to any religion, hence, in the secterian or religious context I don't have a pet in this enternal Pyre.

In the Grand Chessboard all players try to maximise their gains and try to win in clean sweap without loosing too many pieces.

So, in realpolitiek it is 'fair' game. Yes, it is very cynical thing to say. But this is Human Condition. Humans are destructive by their nature.

My only desire is to see Civilisationa Revival in the Lands of Eurasia. Pak being the oldest kid on the block enjoys my special affection.

And I don't mean that people loose their beloved religions or sects.. NO. I wish to see anchoring of something deeper, more profound. This shall bring a balance in an otherwise Plasitified world.

The Empire has turned everything into plastic. Most of all it has destroyed Civilisations.. I shall go as far as saying that the Empire is Against Life, Against Nature.

Now what SA does or does not on behalf of the Empire is indeed a valid question. For that we need to understand the Grand Chessboard properly.

My primary concern remains Eurasian Integeration and Civilisational Revival therein.

So, I do apologise for my limitation in understanding the underlying religious issue that are dear to your Heart.

I can only wish for Peace to Reign...Civilisation to Spring back to Life...


I do wish you the very best. You are good man!


Regards,

SPF

 

[OldTwilight]

I know but we should never for the kurds been helped by erdo he is the one that should fix it why we endanger the lives of our men for the others
their independence wont hurt us at all but it 9hurt the Turks for sure.

Erdongan has short sight in long term geo strategic issues and his policies are questionable .... he just thought that he can turn north of Iraq to Turkey puppet state and milk their oil but what would happen if Barezani family fall !? ...

 

[Dai Toruko]

Turkey, Iraq and Iran will never allow illegal referandum or de-facto decisions.

 

[TheCamelGuy]

We should let the kurds get independence then let the turks feel the consequences they helped to arise.

They want to run away now as they know there's a big possibility army/PMU will enter area's KRG took from Iraq in June 2014. These area's they're afraid of losing are in Nineveh plains, Sinjar and Kerkuk. The thing is we have the PMU, the PMU is large and quite powerful. If the PMU decided to overrun area's held by Kurds the ISF could then station in these area's to 'keep calm and peace'.. and Americans would only accept that, though we all know that just means Baghdad returning its control.

PMU can be used as offensive agressive units, ISF can be used as the force that brings stability after these agressive forces decide to overrun some trenches. Similarly to 2015 in Toz Khormatu when Turkmen PMU units were clashing with PUK peshmerga, the federal police was brought in the city to return peace.

It could work, and if not now.. every year that passes the ISF gets more equipment.