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Iran fired cruise missiles in attack on Saudi oil facility: Senior US official

I just remembered. Didn’t Trump recently say that any attack by any Iranian proxy against US or US allies and interests, means US will hold Iran directly responsible, and act as if US were attacked directly by Iran?

He did ...
 
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@xbat

Bro ... I'm still waiting for the mentioned bombs to land on my roof !

I can't hear anything :coffee:
Typical eastern minded people. too much talk, underrate rival, mocking and finally moaning if the threat has come . so from this angle there is no difference between Iranian, Turk or arab. even iranians are much worse. i am just writing, any war in the region will hurt everybody. this is not my will but apparently your will.
 
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Typical eastern minded people. too much talk, underrate rival, mocking and finally moaning if the threat has come . so from this angle there is no difference between Iranian, Turk or arab. even iranians are much worse. i am just writing, any war in the region will hurt everybody. this is not my will but apparently your will.

This is the rival who underestimated us !

We are not stupid and we are ready for all kind of scenarios ...

iranians are not aware of incoming danger, hey wake up! your house will burn!

:coffee:
 
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A Credibility Test for U.S.-Saudi Defense Relations and Iran Deterrence

The strike was highly effective from a military perspective. The weapons hit at around 4 a.m. local time and appear to have struck from a northerly or northwesterly direction. This fits with a string of reporting that suggests related air defense alerts and engine sounds were concentrated in areas of the northern Persian Gulf, as opposed to an ingress route from Yemen. Strong U.S. government statements have ruled out Yemen (on September 14) and Iraq (on September 16), so the focus is narrowing to a direct strike originating from Iran.

These factors—plus the lack of attempted air defense interception by numerous overlapping Hawk and Patriot missile batteries—suggest a low-level cruise missile attack that hugged the ground at altitudes of under 300 feet. The footage seen thus far shows only one crashed missile, indicating that the arrival rate was very high, possibly even 95 percent, and that routes were carefully planned to avoid obstacles such as power lines and communication towers.

Seventeen individual impact points were struck at the Abqaiq facility, with a smaller number (perhaps as low as two) at Khurais. The weapons were highly accurate—for instance, all twelve of the thirty-meter-wide spheroid gas-oil separation tanks at Abqaiq were hit almost dead center. Much thinner stabilization towers were also accurately struck.

There are even indications of finesse in the strike’s “weaponeering,” the technical term for munition selection and modification. Some “aimpoints” were clearly hit with large explosive payloads consistent with an Iranian cruise missile such as the 700-kilometer-range Ya-Ali. Yet the gas-oil separation tanks appear to have been struck with high-velocity kinetic force sans explosions, perhaps signaling an effort to damage but not permanently destroy them. Similar finesse was visible in Iran’s May 12 attacks in the Fujairah anchorage off the United Arab Emirates, where four ships had their hulls expertly holed without causing the vessels to spill oil, sink, or suffer massive fires.

The full level of damage inflicted this Saturday is unknown so far, but considering the range of facilities struck and the long lead times for manufacturing such specialized equipment, the impact on Saudi oil processing capacity could extend into the four-, six-, or even twelve-month timeframe, forcing the kingdom to discontinue offering Arab Light and Arab Super Light grades. This extraordinary outcome would deeply shock oil markets and the Saudi leadership alike. And from a military perspective, no energy sector has been struck so effectively since the U.S. coalition’s precision bombing of Iraq in 1991.

https://www.washingtoninstitute.org....-saudi-defense-relations-and-iran-deterrence
 
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A Credibility Test for U.S.-Saudi Defense Relations and Iran Deterrence


These Americans don't seem to learn it seems. President after president keep getting humiliated by Iran. These clowns need to learn that when you're dealing with the Persians, only respect works. When you try to act macho and tough, Iran will slap you in front of the world and you can't do jack. Trump will eventually come to his senses and behind the scene beg Iran for talks.
 
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A Credibility Test for U.S.-Saudi Defense Relations and Iran Deterrence

The strike was highly effective from a military perspective. The weapons hit at around 4 a.m. local time and appear to have struck from a northerly or northwesterly direction. This fits with a string of reporting that suggests related air defense alerts and engine sounds were concentrated in areas of the northern Persian Gulf, as opposed to an ingress route from Yemen. Strong U.S. government statements have ruled out Yemen (on September 14) and Iraq (on September 16), so the focus is narrowing to a direct strike originating from Iran.

These factors—plus the lack of attempted air defense interception by numerous overlapping Hawk and Patriot missile batteries—suggest a low-level cruise missile attack that hugged the ground at altitudes of under 300 feet. The footage seen thus far shows only one crashed missile, indicating that the arrival rate was very high, possibly even 95 percent, and that routes were carefully planned to avoid obstacles such as power lines and communication towers.

Seventeen individual impact points were struck at the Abqaiq facility, with a smaller number (perhaps as low as two) at Khurais. The weapons were highly accurate—for instance, all twelve of the thirty-meter-wide spheroid gas-oil separation tanks at Abqaiq were hit almost dead center. Much thinner stabilization towers were also accurately struck.

There are even indications of finesse in the strike’s “weaponeering,” the technical term for munition selection and modification. Some “aimpoints” were clearly hit with large explosive payloads consistent with an Iranian cruise missile such as the 700-kilometer-range Ya-Ali. Yet the gas-oil separation tanks appear to have been struck with high-velocity kinetic force sans explosions, perhaps signaling an effort to damage but not permanently destroy them. Similar finesse was visible in Iran’s May 12 attacks in the Fujairah anchorage off the United Arab Emirates, where four ships had their hulls expertly holed without causing the vessels to spill oil, sink, or suffer massive fires.

The full level of damage inflicted this Saturday is unknown so far, but considering the range of facilities struck and the long lead times for manufacturing such specialized equipment, the impact on Saudi oil processing capacity could extend into the four-, six-, or even twelve-month timeframe, forcing the kingdom to discontinue offering Arab Light and Arab Super Light grades. This extraordinary outcome would deeply shock oil markets and the Saudi leadership alike. And from a military perspective, no energy sector has been struck so effectively since the U.S. coalition’s precision bombing of Iraq in 1991.

https://www.washingtoninstitute.org....-saudi-defense-relations-and-iran-deterrence

They are fully aware of what we can do with their air bases in the region if they play with fire ...

BABA YAGA
 
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Iran may be offered a place to replace Saudia as main oil supplier in trade of:
1) support in Afghanistan (against Pakistan and China and of course Russia).
2) support in balkanization of SA(and after that iran is next).
3) over throw Revolution(may mean return of Kingship, or softening of social strictness).

So Iran, are you ready?
 
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china can buy our oil, it does harm those who do not buy our oil...

You lot are not getting it dont you? Look, if Iran is involved then Iranian oil facilitates become legitimate target in return and if that happen, China will find it extremely hard to invest the money in Iranian energy sector she just pledged.
 
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CNN says Saudi-US investigation came to conclusion that attack came from Iranian region bordering Iraq. Other media outlets say the UK is discussing with Germany the need to do a joint response with their allies(US and Saudi). Now it all depends on if Saudi Arabia comes out publicly and implicates Iran. That will mean we may have something then.
 
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