Iran Eying Manufacture of Vertical Climb Aircraft

[500]

about those who talking about iran should make a 4 or 4.5 generation first
i have a simple question?
why a country that have limited resources waste money on mass production of something that cant stand today technologies

1) Country with limited resources cant repleace all its planes with superexpensive 5th generation.
2) Country with limited resources and no experience in aircraft design should not even dream about designing 5th generation fighters.

 

[PERSIAN GOD KING]

1) Country with limited resources cant repleace all its planes with superexpensive 5th generation.
2) Country with limited resources and no experience in aircraft design should not even dream about designing 5th generation fighters.

Why you creating your own philosophy? when Iran say this is a 5th gen fighter? some people said it might be one.
also how do you know Iran does not have 4th gen tech because they will 100% do, they just dont spend money making fighters jets since they have other stuffs to make.

BTW as i said they are in process of making a new fighter jet.

 

[Banglar Lathial]

Germany of the Islamic World to be precise.

I praise Iran (and other Muslim countries too) adequately, but let us stop from these 'silly' comparisons with infidel Westerners. Iran has a long history, a historical civilization, enticing culture, as does Egypt, Syria/Iraq, Lebanon, Tunisia, Bangladesh, and many other Muslim (majority) countries. Germany or most Western countries have no history or culture.

Western countries are declining, their population dwindling, their economies stagnant, their societies decadent and they are bankrupt.

 

[Banglar Lathial]

Not really the Germany of Asia, but sure they are going in the right direction. I consider countries like Japan, China and South Korea as the Germany of Asia. The thing is there is a huge problem of boasting in these parts of the world (South Asia) look at the west, they test their equipment before making it public. It would be better for countries to actually make the things first and then make it public other wise it makes a laughing stock. Best examples are some of the projects of DRDO.

Korea, Taiwan, Malaysia and the likes fit this bill better, I reckon. China has 1.3 billion people, it is only natural it should be stronger than any Western country. Current trends indicate it may be well on its way to reaching that position soon.

When it comes to Japan, I doubt it can be called the "Germany" of Asia since Japan excels Germany in many fields all on its own. Without any fuss, JAXA sent mission to Venus. Not many countries in world can do that without fuss, any Christian/Western country that does so creates a huge media uproar and advertisement and noise over "simple" things.

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1) Country with limited resources cant repleace all its planes with superexpensive 5th generation.
2) Country with limited resources and no experience in aircraft design should not even dream about designing 5th generation fighters.

1)Every country has limited resources, no country or society has unlimited resources.
2)That explains why 'Israel' is begging USA for F-35 and as usual, relying on begging USA for its weapons?

 

[FriendOfPakistan]

You hit the right note. Iran can come up with technology demonstrators but the Achilles heel has always been mass production. Quality and reliability of parts esp. for aircraft is not easy to achieve. Despite years of effort, only a few Saeqeh aircraft (less than a dozen have been produced). To produce reliable high performance jet engines is no easy task, only a handful of countries have achieved that. It requires decades of experience and a very strong and advanced industrial infrastructure. Over time, this may change, but it might require at least another decade or two.

My doubt is not on whether Iranian researchers can develop such platforms, but whether Iran would actually develop them, mass-produce and then induct them into its airforces. This entire process is long and costly too. That's why I have my doubts on whether any such planes will be inducted but it is certainly possible that Iran is researching them.

 

[500]

Why you creating your own philosophy? when Iran say this is a 5th gen fighter? some people said it might be one.

So I replied to them.

1) country has limited resources, no country or society has unlimited resources.

This idiom was used by an Iranian nenver Crive, not me. Obviously he meant that Irans resources are very limited to superpowers like US, India or even Russia. You are the only one here who dont undertsand simple idioms.

2)That explains why 'Israel' is begging USA for F-35 and as usual, relying on begging USA for its weapons?

Israel never begged for F-35. But yes we cant made 5th gen fighter, I never claimed otherwise.

 

[Banglar Lathial]

This idiom was used by an Iranian nenver Crive, not me. Obviously he meant that Irans resources are very limited to superpowers like US, India or even Russia. You are the only one here who dont undertsand simple idioms.

I did not quote Crive, I quoted you. You are responsible for your own words. India a superpower? Are you serious? Iran's annual budget is larger than India with all the sanctions and threats of war on it. Irrespective of that, every country and society has limited resources, no country has unlimited resources.

Israel never begged for F-35. But yes we cant made 5th gen fighter, I never claimed otherwise.

I suppose "Israel" will not obtain the F-35 then. Good news.

 

[Stormweaver]

ran's annual budget is larger than India with all the sanctions and threats of war on it.

Actually, leave India, its GDP and the defence budget is smaller than Canada's.
Infact, Ontario [My province] has 50% more GDP than whole of Iran

Why you creating your own philosophy? when Iran say this is a 5th gen fighter? some people said it might be one.
also how do you know Iran does not have 4th gen tech because they will 100% do, they just dont spend money making fighters jets since they have other stuffs to make.

What are your trying to say? As explained previously, you cannot have a 5th gen fighter, without the indigenous manufacturing base for a 3rd and 4th gen fighter. It is like saying that you can get a Phd. in mathematics without completing grade 5 math.

Lastly, if you say that they don't produce fighter jets because "they have other stuffs to make" then .... they can't really have a 4th or 5th Gen fighter, can they?

 

[The SC]

Seriously though, from personal observations, Iranian students are some of the most hardworking individuals in any foreign university. I feel that if more people join the "highly educated" category.....the mullah regime there would lose relevance.....and finally be dismantled.

Without these highly educated people you are calling mullah, those hard working and brilliant students you are talking about could have lost half the time of their education chasing girls, dancing in bars, drinking alcohol, probably taking drugs and nobody could have ever heard of their hard work and achievements.
This is what Islam is about first Ijtihad in seeking Science, and believe you me it is very very tough, than you have to keep up to date and improve -if there is room for that- till your last days on earth. No wonder people are scared of Islam it is very demanding from self and the community, but for the betterment of self and the community.
Without this frame of mind all humans are very lazy and surviving on this attitude you absolutely need corruption, drug trafficking, fraud and everything related to this negative aspect of life which shows the worst of human behaviour, which is totally opposite to Ijtihad or Endeavour.

 

[The SC]

http://www.asian-defence.net/2010/12/chinas-stealth-helicopter-to-counter-f.html

Please follow the link there is something interesting from china:

It's a stealth heavy attack helicopter. US aviation experts say that it is designed to counter the F-35 Lightning II.

The aircraft seems to be naval-oriented. Internal weapons bays are included.

Here is what the US experts have to say:
"One aircraft concept that caught the attention of reporters was a vertical takeoff and landing aircraft -- China's answer to the United States' developmental F-35 Joint Strike Fighter. A model of the aircraft, which was on display at the show, appears to incorporate some aspects of stealth technology."

 

[The SC]

Actually, leave India, its GDP and the defence budget is smaller than Canada's.
Infact, Ontario [My province] has 50% more GDP than whole of Iran







What are your trying to say? As explained previously, you cannot have a 5th gen fighter, without the indigenous manufacturing base for a 3rd and 4th gen fighter. It is like saying that you can get a Phd. in mathematics without completing grade 5 math.

Lastly, if you say that they don't produce fighter jets because "they have other stuffs to make" then .... they can't really have a 4th or 5th Gen fighter, can they?

They probably can if it was their number 1 priority, since they have a lot of phds in Mathematics.

 

[BordoEnes]

Iran Eying Manufacture of Vertical Climb Aircraft

If i think what that means, Iran surtenly CANNOT Build such a Aircraft. I dont think i need to explain why

 

[ARSENAL6]

So I replied to them.
.

At least provide facts to sources that are credible.

This idiom was used by an Iranian nenver Crive, not me. Obviously he meant that Irans resources are very limited to superpowers like US, India or even Russia. You are the only one here who dont undertsand simple idioms.
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..and you like many can't comprehend and are still stuck up with your jealousy and fear. He said Irans developing since they are ahead in science. Proves were given by another poster on this topic.

Israel never begged for F-35. But yes we cant made 5th gen fighter, I never claimed otherwise.

Yes they did they demanded to have the latest tech to be superior over the middleeast.For "protection" against aging soviet equipment or stones from palesiten kids. Prove that they didn't.

Seriously though, from personal observations, Iranian students are some of the most hardworking individuals in any foreign university. I feel that if more people join the "highly educated" category.....the mullah regime there would lose relevance.....and finally be dismantled.

...and the Mullahs come to india and dismantle Bhartis terroist like you and fushed just like the crap in a toilet, back in the sewers you came from.

Jealousy at its best.

 

[Malik Alashter]

can you plz name any Iranian aesa radar or show a pic I appreciate it>