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Yes the USA put their enemies in power. The mullahs of course were all hardline Zionists. Just like Mohammed Morsi, the CIA's man in Egypt who broke the Gaza blockade was a Zionist tool until he was replaced by Filed Marshall Sissi, the great anti Zionist who resumed the blockade.
 
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Yes the USA put their enemies in power. The mullahs of course were all hardline Zionists. Just like Mohammed Morsi, the CIA's man in Egypt who broke the Gaza blockade was a Zionist tool until he was replaced by Filed Marshall Sissi, the great anti Zionist who resumed the blockade.
Why not? put some cavemen in power and destroy a country (who helped bin laden, taliban etc..?)
It's a possiblity
 
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Iran and the Shah: What Really Happened

An old report. But the American character has not changed. If anything, it has become more evil.


In generel the article is right.. The Shah was never a puppet of the west, that has always been a myth. He was simply a sovereign leader who wanted to develop Iran, but even this was not acceptable to the west....his oil policy, his military policy, the nuclear policy....they wanted Iran to stop it all, that's why they brought Khomenei in, the West wanted him to turn Iran into a second Saudi Arabia! But the Soviets had nothing to do with the coup against the Shah, that's bullshit.

A better asessment of the fall of the Shah can be found in the book "A Century of War: Anglo-American Oil Politics and the New World Order" by William Engdahl.

A Century of War: Anglo-American Oil Politics and the New World Order: F. William Engdahl: 9780745323091: Amazon.com: Books

"In November 1978, President Carter named the Bilderberg group's George Ball, another member of the Trilateral Commission, to head a special White House Iran task force under the National Security Council's Brzezinski. Ball recommended that Washington drop support for the Shah of Iran and support the fundamentalistic Islamic opposition of Ayatollah Khomeini. Robert Bowie from the CIA was one of the lead 'case officers' in the new CIA-led coup against the man their covert actions had placed into power 25 years earlier.

Their scheme was based on a detailed study of the phenomenon of Islamic fundamentalism, as presented by British Islamic expert, Dr. Bernard Lewis, then on assignment at Princeton University in the United States. Lewis's scheme, which was unveiled at the May 1979 Bilderberg meeting in Austria, endorsed the radical Muslim Brotherhood movement behind Khomeini, in order to promote balkanization of the entire Muslim Near East along tribal and religious lines. Lewis argued that the West should encourage autonomous groups such as the Kurds, Armenians, Lebanese Maronites, Ethiopian Copts, Azerbaijani Turks, and so forth. The chaos would spread in what he termed an 'Arc of Crisis,' which would spill over into Muslim regions of the Soviet Union.

The coup against the Shah, like that against Mossadegh in 1953, was run by British and American intelligence, with the bombastic American, Brzezinski, taking public 'credit' for getting rid of the 'corrupt' Shah, while the British characteristically remained safely in the background.

During 1978, negotiations were under way between the Shah's government and British Petroleum for renewal of the 25-year old extraction agreement. By October 1978, the talks had collapsed over a British 'offer' which demanded exclusive rights to Iran's future oil output, while refusing to guarantee purchase of the oil. With their dependence on British-controlled export apparently at an end, Iran appeared on the verge of independence in its oil sales policy for the first time since 1953, with eager prospective buyers in Germany, France, Japan and elsewhere. In its lead editorial that September, Iran's Kayhan International stated:

In retrospect, the 25-year partnership with the [British Petroleum] consortium and the 50-year relationship with British Petroleum which preceded it, have not been satisfactory ones for Iran ... Looking to the future, NIOC [National Iranian Oil Company] should plan to handle all operations by itself.

London was blackmailing and putting enormous economic pressure on the Shah's regime by refusing to buy Iranian oil production, taking only 3 million or so barrels daily of an agreed minimum of 5 million barrels per day. This imposed dramatic revenue pressures on Iran, which provided the context in which religious discontent against the Shah could be fanned by trained agitators deployed by British and U.S. intelligence. In addition, strikes among oil workers at this critical juncture crippled Iranian oil production.

As Iran's domestic economic troubles grew, American 'security' advisers to the Shah's Savak secret police implemented a policy of ever more brutal repression, in a manner calculated to maximize popular antipathy to the Shah. At the same time, the Carter administration cynically began protesting abuses of 'human rights' under the Shah.

British Petroleum reportedly began to organize capital flight out of Iran, through its strong influence in Iran's financial and banking community. The British Broadcasting Corporation's Persian-language broadcasts, with dozens of Persian-speaking BBC 'correspondents' sent into even the smallest village, drummed up hysteria against the Shah. The BBC gave Ayatollah Khomeini a full propaganda platform inside Iran during this time. The British government-owned broadcasting organization refused to give the Shah's government an equal chance to reply. Repeated personal appeals from the Shah to the BBC yielded no result. Anglo-American intelligence was committed to toppling the Shah. The Shah fled in January, and by February 1979, Khomeini had been flown into Tehran to proclaim the establishment of his repressive theocratic state to replace the Shah's government.

Reflecting on his downfall months later, shortly before his death, the Shah noted from exile,

I did not know it then - perhaps I did not want to know - but it is clear to me now that the Americans wanted me out. Clearly this is what the human rights advocates in the State Department wanted ... What was I to make of the Administration's sudden decision to call former Under Secretary of State George Ball to the White House as an adviser on Iran? ... Ball was among those Americans who wanted to abandon me and ultimately my country.

With the fall of the Shah and the coming to power of the fanatical Khomeini adherents in Iran, chaos was unleashed. By May 1979, the new Khomeini regime had singled out the country's nuclear power development plans and announced cancellation of the entire program for French and German nuclear reactor construction.

Iran's oil exports to the world were suddenly cut off, some 3 million barrels per day. Curiously, Saudi Arabian production in the critical days of January 1979 was also cut by some 2 million barrels per day. To add to the pressures on world oil supply, British Petroleum declared force majeure and cancelled major contracts for oil supply. Prices on the Rotterdam spot market, heavily influenced by BP and Royal Cutch Shell as the largest oil traders, soared in early 1979 as a result. The second oil shock of the 1970s was fully under way.

Indications are that the actual planners of the Iranian Khomeini coup in London and within the senior ranks of the U.S. liberal establishment decided to keep President Carter largely ignorant of the policy and its ultimate objectives. The ensuing energy crisis in the United States was a major factor in bringing about Carter's defeat a year later.

There was never a real shortage in the world supply of petroleum. Existing Saudi and Kuwaiti production capacities could at any time have met the 5-6 million barrels per day temporary shortfall, as a U.S. congressional investigation by the General Accounting Office months later confirmed.

Unusually low reserve stocks of oil held by the Seven Sisters oil multinationals contributed to creating a devastating world oil price shock, with prices for crude oil soaring from a level of some $14 per barrel in 1978 towards the astronomical heights of $40 per barrel for some grades of crude on the spot market. Long gasoline lines across America contributed to a general sense of panic, and Carter energy secretary and former CIA director, James R. Schlesinger, did not help calm matters when he told Congress and the media in February 1979 that the Iranian oil shortfall was 'prospectively more serious' than the 1973 Arab oil embargo.

The Carter administration's Trilateral Commission foreign policy further ensured that any European effort from Germany and France to develop more cooperative trade, economic and diplomatic relations with their Soviet neighbor, under the umbrella of detente and various Soviet-west European energy agreements, was also thrown into disarray.
Carter's security adviser, Zbigniew Brzezinski, and secretary of state, Cyrus Vance, implemented their 'Arc of Crisis' policy, spreading the instability of the Iranian revolution throughout the perimeter around the Soviet Union. Throughout the Islamic perimeter from Pakistan to Iran, U.S. initiatives created instability or worse."


A Century of War: Anglo-American Oil Politics and the New World Order: F. William Engdahl: 9780745323091: Amazon.com: Books



Back then in 1979, China was the only country which called the revolution a western coup, and their asessment was totally right. Ironically, a few years later, China became Irans most important ally. In the Iran-Iraq war, China provided Iran with critical know how to re-engineer US weapons, and when Iran re-started its nuclear industry in the mid 80's, it was China which helped with technology and training of iranian nuclear scientists (a decade later they stoped due to US pressure).

As far as Russia is concerned: In Soviet Era, Russia had a common border with Iran, and when Khomenei came to power, this was a threat to Russias interests in the Caspian Sea region and also the wider Middle East, so the Russians helped to arm Saddam in the war to degrade Irans conventional military. Fortunately the Soviet Union collapsed, Russia was no longer a world power and had no common border with Iran anymore, so they the saw a stronger Iran as usefull against the US. In the 90's, Russia trained a lot of iranian military engineers and after Chinas exit, Russia trained Iranian nuclear scientists and provided nuclear technology to Iran. And in the current Russia-West standoff, Iran can further profit.

It was one of the Wests biggest mistakes in history to topple the Shah. The Shah never opposed the West, he only wanted a sovereign and prosperous Iran. Now the West has the unique chance to again have close relations with Iran, if they don't take it, then Iran will totally go into the Russia-China camp.
 
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In generel the article is right.. The Shah was never a puppet of the west, that has always been a myth. He was simply a sovereign leader who wanted to develop Iran, but even this was not acceptable to the west....his oil policy, his military policy, the nuclear policy....they wanted Iran to stop it all, that's why they brought Khomenei in, the West wanted him to turn Iran into a second Saudi Arabia! But the Soviets had nothing to do with the coup against the Shah, that's bullshit.

A better asessment of the fall of the Shah can be found in the book "A Century of War: Anglo-American Oil Politics and the New World Order" by William Engdahl.





Back then in 1979, China was the only country which called the revolution a western coup, and their asessment was totally right. Ironically, a few years later, China became Irans most important ally. In the Iran-Iraq war, China provided Iran with critical know how to re-engineer US weapons, and when Iran re-started its nuclear industry in the mid 80's, it was China which helped with technology and training of iranian nuclear scientists (a decade later they stoped due to US pressure).

As far as Russia is concerned: In Soviet Era, Russia had a common border with Iran, and when Khomenei came to power, this was a threat to Russias interests in the Caspian Sea region and also the wider Middle East, so the Russians helped to arm Saddam in the war to degrade Irans conventional military. Fortunately the Soviet Union collapsed, Russia was no longer a world power and had no common border with Iran anymore, so they the saw a stronger Iran as usefull against the US. In the 90's, Russia trained a lot of iranian military engineers and after Chinas exit, Russia trained Iranian nuclear scientists and provided nuclear technology to Iran. And in the current Russia-West standoff, Iran can further profit.

It was one of the Wests biggest mistakes in history to topple the Shah. The Shah never opposed the West, he only wanted a sovereign and prosperous Iran. Now the West has the unique chance to again have close relations with Iran, if they don't take it, then Iran will totally go into the Russia-China camp.
Britain put him and his dynasty in power. Why would we overthrow him? It's idiocy. We did eventually drop him because he was a liability but that's not the same as supporting his opponents.
 
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@rmi5

You got an officer-son worshipper to take care of. Who were those failed Pahlavi's again? Kurdish peasants from Eastern Iran or Diyala in Iraq?

What was the literary rate in Iran back in 1979 once again? 55%. Great power indeed. Great SOVEREIGN power, LOL.

Britain put him and his dynasty in power. Why would we overthrow him? It's idiocy.

Correct. Britain also helped cause the famous famine in Iran between 1917-1919 that killed 40% of the population after they got control of Iran.

مرکز اسناد انقلاب اسلامی - Exploring Great Britain’s role in Great Famine in Iran during World War part 1

The Great Famine and Genocide in Persia, 1917-1919: Mohammad Gholi Majd: 9780761826330: Amazon.com: Books

KSA back in 1979 was not ruled by the clergy. It was thanks to the Grand Mosque Seizure in 1979 that the society became based totally on religion almost. Before this was not the case to such an extent. The "revolution" in Iran did not help either in that regard.
 
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@rmi5

You got an officer-son worshipper to take care of.
Some people are too much screwed up to be taken care of :lol:
Who were those failed Pahlavi's again? Kurdish peasants from Eastern Iran or Diyala in Iraq?
Yeah, immigrants from Palani kurdish tribes living in the city of Alasht in south of Mazandaran(South Caspian)
What was the literary rate in Iran back in 1979 once again? 55%. Great power indeed. Great SOVEREIGN power, LOL.
It was actually 49% ;) Pahlavis screwed Iran and were bunch of puppets to the highest degree.
Correct. Britain also helped cause the famous famine in Iran between 1917-1919 that killed 40% of the population after they got control of Iran.

مرکز اسناد انقلاب اسلامی - Exploring Great Britain’s role in Great Famine in Iran during World War part 1
That's right. during WW1, GB took control of Iran, caused famine(mostly in Central and Southern parts of Iran), then transfer power to Reza Palani.

In generel the article is right.. The Shah was never a puppet of the west, that has always been a myth. He was simply a sovereign leader who wanted to develop Iran, but even this was not acceptable to the west....his oil policy, his military policy, the nuclear policy....they wanted Iran to stop it all, that's why they brought Khomenei in, the West wanted him to turn Iran into a second Saudi Arabia! But the Soviets had nothing to do with the coup against the Shah, that's bullshit.

A better asessment of the fall of the Shah can be found in the book "A Century of War: Anglo-American Oil Politics and the New World Order" by William Engdahl.

A Century of War: Anglo-American Oil Politics and the New World Order: F. William Engdahl: 9780745323091: Amazon.com: Books




A Century of War: Anglo-American Oil Politics and the New World Order: F. William Engdahl: 9780745323091: Amazon.com: Books



Back then in 1979, China was the only country which called the revolution a western coup, and their asessment was totally right. Ironically, a few years later, China became Irans most important ally. In the Iran-Iraq war, China provided Iran with critical know how to re-engineer US weapons, and when Iran re-started its nuclear industry in the mid 80's, it was China which helped with technology and training of iranian nuclear scientists (a decade later they stoped due to US pressure).

As far as Russia is concerned: In Soviet Era, Russia had a common border with Iran, and when Khomenei came to power, this was a threat to Russias interests in the Caspian Sea region and also the wider Middle East, so the Russians helped to arm Saddam in the war to degrade Irans conventional military. Fortunately the Soviet Union collapsed, Russia was no longer a world power and had no common border with Iran anymore, so they the saw a stronger Iran as usefull against the US. In the 90's, Russia trained a lot of iranian military engineers and after Chinas exit, Russia trained Iranian nuclear scientists and provided nuclear technology to Iran. And in the current Russia-West standoff, Iran can further profit.

It was one of the Wests biggest mistakes in history to topple the Shah. The Shah never opposed the West, he only wanted a sovereign and prosperous Iran. Now the West has the unique chance to again have close relations with Iran, if they don't take it, then Iran will totally go into the Russia-China camp.

Sorry Homa, but you have some really messed up thoughts. I cannot comprehend how you are both Pahlavi loving and mullah loving person to the highest degree. Also, some stuff that you mentioned here, are bunch of Los Angeles Shah follower propaganda who just want to say that they did not fall because people hated them and they screwed up the country. Normally, as a recommendation, one should not take Pahlavi or mullah words seriously.
 
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Some people are too much screwed up to be taken care of :lol:

Yeah, immigrants from Palani kurdish tribes living in the city of Alasht in south of Mazandaran(South Caspian)

It was actually 49% ;) Pahlavis screwed Iran and were bunch of puppets to the highest degree.

That's right. during WW1, GB took control of Iran, caused famine(mostly in Central and Southern parts of Iran), then transfer power to Reza Palani.

I hear that they were especially cruel to the minorities of Iran that are the backbone of Iran and form almost 50% of the population? Very shameful.

I wonder who will replace the Supreme Leader and Representative of God on this earth next?

I think that whoever replaces him will conquer the entire Arab and Turkic world.

Iran Threatens Azerbaijan | The National Interest

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/New...ns-threatened-by-Saudi-Arabia-not-Israel.html

You guys must watch out for the beast.;)

@rmi5

Did you know that their dear Reza Shah Pahlavi is buried in an Arab country? Egypt? Do you think that they like this?
 
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I hear that they were especially cruel to the minorities of Iran that are the backbone of Iran and form almost 50% of the population? Very shameful.
Yes, the reason behind it was Reza Khan getting close to Nazi Germany and Hitler and spread BS aryan blood theories.
I wonder who will replace the Supreme Leader and Representative of God on this earth next?

I think that whoever replaces him will conquer the entire Arab and Turkic world.

Iran Threatens Azerbaijan | The National Interest

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/New...ns-threatened-by-Saudi-Arabia-not-Israel.html

You guys must watch out for the beast.;)

@rmi5
:lol::lol::lol:
They just have a big mouth. As you saw the Fact book of Azerbaijani armed forces thread, I am sure that now, you have normally noticed they cannot do much against us with their outdated junks. :lol::lol::lol:
Anyway, I have a serious criticism about GCC governments. Why GCC does not support Al-Ahwazi arabs? Baku always support South Azeris in some extent, but GCC countries have not supported Al-Ahwazi arabs so far. They are the best allies of southern Azeris, and they always interview with Azeri media, hence we know their situation is really bad. Well, persians can do less against us, since we have money, big population, major businesses, ... in Iran, but it's not the case for Al-Ahwazi arabs. There is also huge racism against them in their own lands. I would strongly say they are the groups that suffer the most from racism in Iran. It's really hard to be described, but many of them don't even have access to clean water, electricity, gas, ... let alone having jobs when almost all Iranian oil is extracted from their own lands. Even oil company fires them from works, police harasses them in a daily basis for non-sense reasons, ... They live much much worse than Palestinian refugees.
 
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Yes, the reason behind it was Reza Khan getting close to Nazi Germany and Hitler and spread BS aryan blood theories.

:lol::lol::lol:
They just have a big mouth. As you saw the Fact book of Azerbaijani armed forces thread, I am sure that now, you have normally noticed they cannot do much against us with their outdated junks. :lol::lol::lol:
Anyway, I have a serious criticism about GCC governments. Why GCC does not support Al-Ahwazi arabs? Baku always support South Azeris in some extent, but GCC countries have not supported Al-Ahwazi arabs so far. They are the best allies of southern Azeris, and they always interview with Azeri media, hence we know their situation is really bad. Well, persians can do less against us, since we have money, big population, major businesses, ... in Iran, but it's not the case for Al-Ahwazi arabs. There is also huge racism against them in their own lands. I would trongly say they are the groups that suffer the most from racism in Iran. It's really hard to be described, but many of them don't even have access to clean water, electricity, gas, ... let alone having jobs when almost all Iranian oil is extracted from their own lands. Even oil company fires them from works, police harasses them in a daily basis for non-sense reasons, ... They live much much worse than Palestinian refugees.

In fact Hitler escorted by Himmler himself traveled to Iran to spread those "secret" bloodlines that nobody knows about.:lol:

Well this is a good question indeed. I guess the regimes of the GCC prefer stability and growth and seriously, Iran being the utmost superpower that it is, that produces 98% of all their products indigenously, should learn from such policy instead of giving warnings left and right and threats day and night.

This is sad to here. The Iranians that live in the GCC must really have a great taste in their mouth's. I hear that the Iranian Arabs are as hospitable as ever despite this which is good. They should not fall to the levels of such uncultured people.
 
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In generel the article is right.. The Shah was never a puppet of the west, that has always been a myth. He was simply a sovereign leader who wanted to develop Iran, but even this was not acceptable to the west....his oil policy, his military policy, the nuclear policy....they wanted Iran to stop it all, that's why they brought Khomenei in, the West wanted him to turn Iran into a second Saudi Arabia! But the Soviets had nothing to do with the coup against the Shah, that's bullshit.

A better asessment of the fall of the Shah can be found in the book "A Century of War: Anglo-American Oil Politics and the New World Order" by William Engdahl.

A Century of War: Anglo-American Oil Politics and the New World Order: F. William Engdahl: 9780745323091: Amazon.com: Books




A Century of War: Anglo-American Oil Politics and the New World Order: F. William Engdahl: 9780745323091: Amazon.com: Books



Back then in 1979, China was the only country which called the revolution a western coup, and their asessment was totally right. Ironically, a few years later, China became Irans most important ally. In the Iran-Iraq war, China provided Iran with critical know how to re-engineer US weapons, and when Iran re-started its nuclear industry in the mid 80's, it was China which helped with technology and training of iranian nuclear scientists (a decade later they stoped due to US pressure).

As far as Russia is concerned: In Soviet Era, Russia had a common border with Iran, and when Khomenei came to power, this was a threat to Russias interests in the Caspian Sea region and also the wider Middle East, so the Russians helped to arm Saddam in the war to degrade Irans conventional military. Fortunately the Soviet Union collapsed, Russia was no longer a world power and had no common border with Iran anymore, so they the saw a stronger Iran as usefull against the US. In the 90's, Russia trained a lot of iranian military engineers and after Chinas exit, Russia trained Iranian nuclear scientists and provided nuclear technology to Iran. And in the current Russia-West standoff, Iran can further profit.

It was one of the Wests biggest mistakes in history to topple the Shah. The Shah never opposed the West, he only wanted a sovereign and prosperous Iran. Now the West has the unique chance to again have close relations with Iran, if they don't take it, then Iran will totally go into the Russia-China camp.
All true but the last sentence, it's been some 30 years Iran being the flunky and footman of the China-Russia-England, camp.
 
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All true but the last sentence, it's been some 30 years Iran being the flunky and footman of the China-Russia-England, camp.

The Shah was the second closest ally of the West after Israel. Iran heavily relied on the West. The Shah himself wanted to emulate a Western system, politics etc. all which were not native to Iran and which angered the lower classes and some of the middle classes.

Referring to him as some great sovereign bastion in a region dominated by the West/Soviets is at most dishonest or laughable.
 
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They just have a big mouth. As you saw the Fact book of Azerbaijani armed forces thread, I am sure that now, you have normally noticed they cannot do much against us with their outdated junks.
Anyway, I have a serious criticism about GCC governments. Why GCC does not support Al-Ahwazi arabs? Baku always support South Azeris in some extent, but GCC countries have not supported Al-Ahwazi arabs so far. They are the best allies of southern Azeris, and they always interview with Azeri media, hence we know their situation is really bad. Well, persians can do less against us, since we have money, big population, major businesses, ... in Iran, but it's not the case for Al-Ahwazi arabs. There is also huge racism against them in their own lands. I would strongly say they are the groups that suffer the most from racism in Iran. It's really hard to be described, but many of them don't even have access to clean water, electricity, gas, ... let alone having jobs when almost all Iranian oil is extracted from their own lands. Even oil company fires them from works, police harasses them in a daily basis for non-sense reasons, ... They live much much worse than Palestinian refugees.

In fact Hitler escorted by Himmler himself traveled to Iran to spread those "secret" bloodlines that nobody knows about.
Well this is a good question indeed. I guess the regimes of the GCC prefer stability and growth and seriously, Iran being the utmost superpower that it is, that produces 98% of all their products indigenously, should learn from such policy instead of giving warnings left and right and threats day and night.
This is sad to here. The Iranians that live in the GCC must really have a great taste in their mouth's. I hear that the Iranian Arabs are as hospitable as ever despite this which is good. They should not fall to the levels of such uncultured people
Hey men, you guys are acting like real nonsense here, Sadly it seems that you guys are really into troll fest.
 
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Hey men, you guys are acting like real nonsense here, Sadly it seems that you guys are really into troll fest.

We are just reporting what your regime is telling the world. It is not our fault that they have a big mouth but rarely take words into action. We don't blame you ordinary Iranians for them either.

Is @rmi5 wrong when he says that Iranian Arabs and other minorities (almost every single one of them) suffers from discrimination and hardships?


Do the Iranian Arabs not inhabit the richest part of Iran. Yes they do. Do they not live in the most historic part too (Elam - that had nothing to do with Persians)? Yes, they do.

Why is nobody bothering the 500.000 or so Iranians (mostly Persians, Iranian Arabs and Lurs) in GCC countries?
 
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sad @rmi5 transformed to a fanatic of hatred :(
and anyway no need to answer a thread with the haters of Iranians coming ... they clearly have a big psycho problem
 
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