INSIDE STORY: India starts trade route to Afghanistan via Iran, bypassing Pakistan

[takeitwithyou]

India biggest problems are dysfunction institutional and corruption.

India have ambitions and targets, but many of them unable to be fulfilled because dysfunction institution.

And India unable to reform it because of corruption.

India is good when doing smaller thing, under a private organization or small government institution, like researching atomic bomb for example.

But handling the whole country, it seems falling apart.


While China is extremely organized, supported with discipline and hardworking people or private sector. Although not all the people is hardworking, at least the good ones is many enough to cover the bad ones.

And India, the tiny good ones are submerged by the ocean of bad ones. And many of them flee the country, and able to be successful in other country who have great environment to grow.

This is as funny as it gets.

Keep shipping and airlifting

we will see how long this drama goes on

Meh yawn

This whole week on pdf will be flooded with this export trade.route forget if it reach there.or not .

Why is this such a big deal?

No one cared in Pakistan.

You can circumnavigate the globe to reach Afghanistan through Russia and do the shipping who cares! India is not going to get any direct access through Pakistan

Realistically speaking, this is good news for Pakistan. The more afghanistan doesn't need and rely on Pakistan the better. It ensures more stability in Pakistan and further growth of CPEC. If this is coupled with more afghans being sent home from Pakistan then terrorism and the crime rate would massively come down too. This would certainly boost CPEC and encourage other friendly nations to invest in Pakistan & CPEC. I honestly hope that trade between afghanistan and india grows. It will inadvertently help Pakistan in the long run. Most of the social and economic problems caused in Pakistan is because of us being compelled to deal with and look after afghans and afghanistan. I want as to be permanently rid of this menace. If it means passing the buck to indians then so be it. We want out of the afghan scurge.

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Pakistan is buidling Terminal at Torkham border this will help Pakistan increase trade with Afghanistan ....
Project started in 2015 , Phase 1 completed
Phase 2 started ....

Would someone among you Pakistanis help me understand this please?

1. Confirm Pakistan is a Democratic country
2. If so, why is an Army Chief then discussing trade issues? quote"a ministry official told The Hindu that the offer made by Army Chief General Qamar Javed Bajwa—during his Afghanistan visit in October..."

 

[El Sidd]

Would someone among you Pakistanis help me understand this?

1. Confirm Pakistan is a Democratic country
2. If so, why is an Army Chief then discussing trade issues? quote"a ministry official told The Hindu that the offer made by Army Chief General Qamar Javed Bajwa—during his Afghanistan visit in October..."

Pakistan is a parliamentary democracy.

The army chief is responsible for security of the country from external forces. The floated trade route opens two of it's borders. Thus security comes into play.

The counterpart indulged along the same line.

He is not negotiating unlike a country where executive order puts the military in charge of diplomacy under some democracy.

 

[takeitwithyou]

To Indians, its neighbors are all obsess with India, just like how India is obsess with Pakistan or China. It's a obsession driving mentality.

Just like Taiwan feels about China when it told China 'get real' if they did not think Taiwan was a country to itself.
speaking of obsession_ China just begged us to not allow the Taiwanese President to visit the U.S.

We, of course, told China to get real she can come.

Beijing urges US not to let Taiwanese president transit ahead of Trump’s China visit

Pakistan is a parliamentary democracy.

The army chief is responsible for security of the country from external forces. The floated trade route opens two of it's borders. Thus security comes into play.

The counterpart indulged along the same line.

He is not negotiating unlike a country where executive order puts the military in charge of diplomacy under some democracy.

Every countries military is in charge of security, yet in democracies, we don't see the Military chief making offers on trade agreements. That's done by Cabinet members of the political arm.

I also asked because I've seen on several occasions where Pakistan's military Chief visits foreign countries to discuss foreign policy issues and somehow the PM is nowhere to be seen

 

[El Sidd]

Every countries military is in charge of security, yet in democracies, we don't see the Military chief making offers on trade agreements. That's done by Cabinet members of the political arm.

I also asked because I've seen on several occasions where Pakistan's military Chief visits foreign countries to discuss foreign policy issues and somehow the PM is nowhere to be seen

War on terror has put trade as a working tool for terrorism. That's why the military heads the front in establishing security risk along with the trade.

With war on terror on it's last leg in Pakistan. Normality will resume.

Sadly all the countries we trade with suffer from terrorism or use it as an extension of its foreign policy.

Thus the interest of the army chief in trade is not a forbidden fruit of democracy but a necessity.

 

[takeitwithyou]

War on terror has put trade as a working tool for terrorism. That's why the military heads the front in establishing security risk along with the trade.

With war on terror on it's last leg in Pakistan. Normality will resume.

Sadly all the countries we trade with suffer from terrorism or use it as an extension of its foreign policy.

Thus the interest of the army chief in trade is not a forbidden fruit of democracy but a necessity.

This must be unique to Pakistan then. Terrorism is felt by many countries. Somehow we see your military chiefs visiting the U.S. and running foreign policy too.

 

[El Sidd]

This is must be unique to Pakistan then. Terrorism is felt by many countries. Somehow we see your military chiefs visiting the U.S. and running foreign policy too.

Yes. It's a special short term solution

 

[takeitwithyou]

Yes. It's a special short term solution

Heading the security aspects is understandable, but in this case, the Pakistani military chief is actually making offers on trade agreements and policies too.

 

[El Sidd]

Heading the security aspects is understandable, but in this case, the Pakistani military chief is actually making offers on trade agreements and policies too.

Business needs security.

Its just simple economics.

We have our way of meddling through the mud created by war on terror.

 

[takeitwithyou]

Business needs security.

Its just simple economics.

We have our way of meddling through the mud created by war on terror.

No doubt security is important but this is not security driven. This is a military chief who is offering trade "policy" versus simply speaking to security aspects of a policy being offered by the civilian heads.

 

[El Sidd]

No doubt security is important but this is not security driven. This is a military chief who is offering trade "policy" versus simply speaking to security aspects of a policy being offered by the civilian heads.

Trade is security driven in the region. This is not different than the counterparts.

 

[captainvancouver]

Pakistan has several defacto governments. Military and civilian. The military has several leaders. Apparently the system works. During military rule there were clear leaders, but democracy has transformed Pakistani into a hydra.

 

[takeitwithyou]

Trade is security driven in the region. This is not different than the counterparts.

Did you just make that up on the fly?
Can you name a single neighbor (Iran/ Afghanistan/China/India) that send their military chiefs to offer trade policies and agreements?

 

[El Sidd]

Did you just make that up on the fly?
Can you name a single neighbor (Iran/ Afghanistan/China/India) that send their military chiefs to offer trade policies and agreements?

Ask them.

No one knows whose in charge of them.

We have our working relationship with each country of the world. Its our decision on how to sort out business with them as we see fit.

 

[takeitwithyou]

Ask them.

No one knows whose in charge of them.

We have our working relationship with each country of the world. Its our decision on how to sort out business with them as we see fit.

Ask them what, why they don't send a military chief to discussions about trade policies?
We know who is a charge, we see who represents them. All civilian counterparts.

When you say it's "our decision"; are you saying the civilian government has purposefully and willing give up the civilian responsibility to the military. I find it very had to belive. Anyways, my questions end here.

 

[El Sidd]

Ask them what, why they don't send a military chief to discussions about trade policies?
we know who is a charge, we see who represents them. all civilian counterparts.

When you say "our decision" are you saying the civilian government has purposefully and willing give up the civilain responsibility to the militray. I find it very had to belive. Anyways, my questions end here.

Yes.

The civilian government has asked them due to wot