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Inside Britain's £100million stealth fighter that will put the wind up Putin and ISIS: New F-35 jet'

‘The F-35s will deter large nation states. When the Cold War ended who would have thought that we would still be dealing with an aggressive state such as Russia. Countries like Russia and China will push until they meet a point of resistance and this aircraft gives nations like the UK the edge.
Ok Fine...Everyone is entitled to their opinions and secondly everyone likes to brag about the weapons they acquire and Britain is no different...This is what this whole article was about.....
 
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Ok Fine...Everyone is entitled to their opinions and secondly everyone likes to brag about the weapons they acquire and Britain is no different...This is what this whole article was about.....

Well, than also let me speak my mind if everyone is entitled to their opinion and stop singling me out. My opinion is that Britain has nothing to brag about their F-35. Don't like it, ignore me.
 
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We need some kind of logic to accept such an expensive fighter in the force :D

Not actually expensive compared to F-16, Eurofighter, or Rafale. The costs are similar

The costs of the f-35 are dropping every year as full production is ramping up as well.

Things have really turned around for the f-35 after they restructured the program.
 
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Yea just not the economy to actually build them in meaningful numbers

You even serious? China doesn't have the economy? Dude, the last time I checked your country owed China more than a trillion dollars. China has a very healthy economy and they will be churning out the J-20s in huge numbers. You're not informed.

Russia has a very healthy defence and aviation industry. Your ally India has opted for a JV with Russia for a 5th generation platform. Doesn't that speak volume? Additionally, Russia already has a massive air force and to say that they don't have the ability to operate them due to their "weak" economy is just plain rubbish. Russia will be operating and inducting their stealth fighters like never before. Why else would they be investing so much effort and resources in building such an aircraft in the first place?
 
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so can all fight together and defeat an entire nation
RUSSIA vs U.S,U.K and other European countries LOL..

when one on one russia can handle all of them.

coward british an U.S cant defeat russia (and might be CHINA also) with itself and seek help from coalition.:rofl:
 
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China doesn't have the economy? Dude, the last time I checked your country owed China more than a trillion dollars. China has a very healthy economy and they will be churning the J-20s in huge numbers.

Russia has a very healthy defence industry. Your ally India has opted for a JV with Russia for a 5th gen platform. Doesn't that say enough?
I said Russia, China doesn't have the means. J-20 is still a decade off from IOC (still in the prototype stage), and its actual capability isn't even set yet.



Defence Industry != economy...even though the Russians would like it to.

There is a reason their 5th gen production is continually being scaled back.

India has historically ordered weapons from the Russia due to Cold War ties, this isn't new or unexpected.

Since when is India an ally?

US India ties are warming up, and the future looks bright on that front, but right now they could hardly be called allies.

More like potential ally.
 
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Not actually expensive compared to F-16, Eurofighter, or Rafale. The costs are similar

The costs of the f-35 are dropping every year as full production is ramping up as well.

Things have really turned around for the f-35 after they restructured the program.

Yes. Actually people here tends to measure the efficacy of a platform like F35 within the realm of the doctrines currently in operation. That is patently naive. F35 is an enabler towards an altogether different generation of doctrines based on networked presence and 360 degree awareness.
 
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I said Russia, China doesn't have the means. J-20 is still a decade off from IOC (still in the prototype stage), and its actual capability isn't even set yet.

The last time I checked China has been flying full fledged J-20 prototypes for years now which have been tested to the core. Something which cannot be said about the American F-22 which has to be grounded every other day due to flaws. It is also not a secret any more that China will soon be starting full scale production. Something which has been conveyed by reliable sources in China itself.

Defence Industry != economy...even though the Russians would like it to.

There is a reason their 5th gen production is continually being scaled back.

India has historically ordered weapons from the Russia due to Cold War ties, this isn't new or expected.

Since when is India an ally?

US India ties are warming up, and the future looks bright on that front, but right now they could hardly be called allies.

Like I said, Russia has a massive air force and is already operating various kinds of aircraft. Their economy is obviously able to sustain this. There is no reason why they wouldn't be able to operate their stealth aircraft in respectable numbers. Anyone doubting this needs a reality check. Russia is not a poor country even though the sanctions applied by the West is trying to achieve this nefarious goal.

Russia isn't scaling back the production of its stealth aircraft. The production has only had some glitches and delays due to technical issues.

India is buying massive amounts of sophisticated weapons from the US. The US shares nuclear technology with India. Mind you, a non-NPT signatory! India has massive trade with the US. India is an ally of the US and that is no secret at all. India could have easily opted for an American stealth platform, but instead continued with the Russian JV. This proves that Russia has the technology and the means to build an able stealth platform. Obviously, India trusts and relies on Russian ability. Speaks volume.
 
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The last time I checked China has been flying full fledged J-20 prototypes for years now which have been tested to the core. Something which cannot be said about the American F-22 which has to be grounded every other day due to flaws. It is also not a secret any more that China will soon be starting full scale production. Something which has been conveyed by realiable sources in China itself.

Let me correct you. China is at least 10 years away from industrially producing a 5th generation engine. Criticality of that component cannot be over-stressed.
 
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Let me correct you. China is at least 10 years away from industrially producing a 5th generation engine. Criticality of that component cannot be over-stressed.

How the hell do you know that? Is China sharing their engine development with you?

When highly placed officials in China tell us that they are at the verge of the production phase I'll take their word over yours any day.
 
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How the hell do you know that? Is China sharing their engine development with you?

When highly placed officials in China tell us that they are at the verge of production phase I'll take their word over yours.

They are still treading the last mile of the engine development program for their 4.5 gen fighters. That is a reality. That's the reason the current J20 prototypes are flying with the Russian engines.
 
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They are still treading the last mile of the engine development program for their 4.5 gen fighters. That is a reality. That's the reason the current J20 prototypes are flying with the Russian engines.

Don't be too sure. China is announcing their intent to manufacture the J-20s in their production assemblies. They know what they are actually talking about. You and I are just bystanders...

You people were in disbelief when China actually flew the prototypes. You will be shell shocked when they start the production phase with Chinese engines.
 
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Don't be too sure. China is announcing their intent to manufacture the J-20s in their production assemblies. They know what they are actually talking about. You and I are just bystanders...

You people were in disbelief when China actually flew the prototypes. You will be shell shocked when they start the production phase with Chinese engines.

If you are sharp you will appreciate the difference between an intent, assurance and a commitment ( in true sense of the word)

What the Chinese official said has nothing to do with them coming of age in the 5th gen engine department.
 
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Inside Britain's £100million stealth fighter that will put the wind up Putin and ISIS: New F-35 jet's state-of-the-art cockpit gives pilots a 360-degree view
  • The F-35b Lightning II is the world's most advanced fighter jet and and will fly from UK aircraft carriers in 2020
  • It has a very low radar profile and will soon be deployed to fly secret missions blasting enemy strongholds
  • The ultra-high tech cockpit allows the pilot to 'see through' the aircraft, even below it, due to six external cameras
  • The jet has a special radar absorbent coating which prevents the enemy from locking onto the aircraft with missiles
By LARISA BROWN FOR THE DAILY MAIL

PUBLISHED: 21:54 GMT, 29 September 2015 | UPDATED: 07:24 GMT, 30 September 2015


At the touch of a red button, an RAF pilot obliterates jihadist militants in Syria with a laser-guided missile – moments after blowing up an enemy warplane that never saw him coming.

This is the world’s most advanced stealth fighter jet, which will soon fly secret missions blitzing enemy strongholds.

Britain has so far bought eight F-35b Lightning II jets which are set to fly off two UK aircraft carriers, along with American jets, by 2020.

The Daily Mail was given access to the cockpit of the aircraft yesterday as a simulator created a scenario in which the warplane would take out a threatening ground missile system.

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The new advance aircraft gives pilots a 360-degree view allowing him to 'see through' the aircraft using six external cameras

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The supersonic aircraft is capable for operating from an aircraft carrier hand is able to hover like the Harrier Jump Jet

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The Daily Mail's Defence Correspondent Larisa Brown got a tour of the aircraft's high-tech simulator used to train pilots

Billed as the world’s most sophisticated jet – at the cost of £100million – the state-of-the-art cockpit system enables the pilot to tell friendly jets from foe. His screen also includes real-time information from other F-35s flying for friendly foreign nations.

Between them at any moment they will be covering tens of miles, with a 360-degree picture of what is going on around them both in the air and on the ground.

The Lockheed Martin jet has the ability to evade enemy air defences by having the lowest possible radar signature.


The Joint Strike Fighter stealth jet uses radar-absorbent coatings, as well as flat surfaces, sharp edges and fibre mats to deflect radar signals, allowing it to strike the enemy before they even know the aircraft is nearby.

Experts say this technology can make it invisible to the high-frequency radars used in modern air-defence systems. It is expected to be the backbone of Allied air power for the next 50 years.

Lockheed Martin’s Steve Over sees the F-35 fighter jet fighting wars in the Middle East and against Russia in the next decade. Speaking at a demonstration of the capabilities of the jet in London, he said the aircraft would make the UK a ‘formidable power’ in the battlefield against Vladimir Putin and Islamic State.

The US, Italy, Canada, Turkey and Australia have also purchased the jets, making it the most expensive defence programme ever.



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The high-tech displays give pilots an unrivaled view of the tactical situation of the battle field showing friendly aircraft and targets

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The US, Italy, Canada, Turkey and Australia have also purchased the F-35, making it the most expensive defence programme ever

Britain to re-assert itself as a global force.

He told the Mail: ‘The F-35s will deter large nation states. When the Cold War ended who would have thought that we would still be dealing with an aggressive state such as Russia. Countries like Russia and China will push until they meet a point of resistance and this aircraft gives nations like the UK the edge.

‘This makes Britain a formidable power. This sees Britain working with a coalition to provide a common capability so can all fight together and defeat an entire nation.’

Mr Over said the aircraft would be ideal for scenarios such as those in Syria.

With six cameras attached to the jet and the advanced radar system, the plane can detect surface-to-air missiles on the ground and provide real-time updates of jihadists walking around.

‘If you think about operations in Syria at the moment, the F-35 has the capacity to deal with these sorts of threats,’ Mr Over said. The pilot will wear a visor which will provide 360-degree views of what is going on around him, and the screen in front of him in the cockpit will collate all information from foreign F-35 jets.

A British pilot will know exactly where foreign fighter jets are located and information that they receive will come up automatically on his display system. If an American pilot has decided to put an unknown aircraft on its ‘target list’ to take down, the British pilot will know immediately of its plans.

The purchase of more of the F-35 combat jets will be decided in the government’s strategic, defence and security review which will be published this autumn. Critics have described the second aircraft carrier as a ‘gigantic white elephant’ because there are currently not enough British jets to fly off even one.

Defence Secretary Michael Fallon has spoken about how he envisages a future of more ‘interoperability’ and cooperation between allies fighting against common enemies. His comments suggest the UK could heavily rely on US F-35s to fly off the aircraft carriers – which could be deployed anywhere in the world – in the future.

An RAF source said of the new aircraft: ‘It is like upgrading from a Nokia 3310 to a smartphone, with the ability to use a myriad of apps than can be downloaded.’

But the Joint Strike Fighter programme has not been without its setbacks. Last year a US pilot had to run from an F-35 jet after it caught fire during takeoff on a military base in Florida as it embarked on a training mission.



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