INS Arihant to make debut at International Fleet Review 2016?

[Ronin]

Will India’s First Nuclear Submarine ” INS Arihant ” which finally has started her sea trials last year will participate in International Fleet Review 2016 which for the first time will be hosted by Eastern Naval Command (ENC) of Indian Navy in February 2016 ?

Well according to Retired Vice Admiral Arun Kumar believes it will, In his latest article in a leading defence security magazine Kumar is hopeful that INS Arihant will participate in the event which will be attended by more than 60 ships from over 22 nations including USA, UK, Japan and Australia .

Defence experts on contrary are not convinced that INS Arihant will make its appearance in International maritime exercise so soon. INS Arihant has only started the first phase of sea trials in the deep ocean and also will require Weapons system tests soon before it can be combat ready unit of Indian navy which will take almost 2 years to complete all tests .

Experts also point out that any hint of Arihant participation will mean many participating countries will be very keen on detecting some acoustic signature of India’s newly built submarine which they believe should be shielded till it becomes fully operational and SSBN usually are not part of Multi-national maritime exercises .

 

[a.kumar]

INS Arihant to make debut at International Fleet Review 2016? | idrw.org

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

Wait if Arihant is SSBN, then the new set of Six Submarines will be SSN

 

[Vaishnu]

Wait if Arihant is SSBN, then the new set of Six Submarines will be SSN

Happy Realisation .....

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

Happy Realisation .....

Don't look now, but do I have a halo over my head ?

 

[PlanetWarrior]

Don't look now, but do I have a halo over my head ?

Remove it. The Devil is forbidden from wearing a halo

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

Remove it. The Devil is forbidden from wearing a halo

Ah ...... the "Liberals" are back, tell people what to do and what they cannot do.

 

[SrNair]

Not going to happen.That thing is an SSBN and other nations will check it for sure.

 

[DeathInvader]

Nope. Whats the whole point of keeping it a secret for so long . Its not like India has some new secret superweapon in its inventory now. Hold on a sec. Does it?

 

[Ind4Ever]

Not going to happen.That thing is an SSBN and other nations will check it for sure.

Yes but it's good for us to participate in these drills so we can validate our systems on board as well

A3 A4 of Arihant follow on will be more powerful than A2 Arihant itself. So we can use this current platform for validation of its effectiveness against other navies. May be our SSN is a derived variant of Arihant SSBN .

Wait if Arihant is SSBN, then the new set of Six Submarines will be SSN

True as of now major construction works are nearing completion for all the three SSBN . So once A4 is completed which is in advanced hull construction stage we will keep this like running with another Nuclear beast SSN . 6 more . And I think think this line will be stopped either . After 6 SSN we will opt for 3-6 more SSBN but bigger and better than Arihant . Great days ahead for Indian underwater fleet which all will be made in India . Great going by this new government

 

[Didact]

Yes but it's good for us to participate in these drills so we can validate our systems on board as well

A3 A4 of Arihant follow on will be more powerful than A2 Arihant itself. So we can use this current platform for validation of its effectiveness against other navies. May be our SSN is a derived variant of Arihant SSBN .

I don't know how or where this rumor was engendered, but I assure you, all the SSBNs of the Arihant class will have nearly the exact same dimensions, exact same specifications and identical capabilities.

Do you see the INS Kolkata and the INS Cochin being different? Or for that matter the INS Shivalik and INS Sahyadri? There's no compelling reason for the Navy to change its methodology for the ATV vessels.

And in any case, large scale upgrades to a design is carried out by observing the flaws and limitations of the preceding ships. Arihant has just begun its trials. It will be a long time before a database of shortcomings are generated.

 

[IND151]

This will not happen

 

[Ind4Ever]

I don't know how or where this rumor was engendered, but I assure you, all the SSBNs of the Arihant class will have nearly the exact same dimensions, exact same specifications and identical capabilities.

Do you see the INS Kolkata and the INS Cochin being different? Or for that matter the INS Shivalik and INS Sahyadri? There's no compelling reason for the Navy to change its methodology for the ATV vessels.

And in any case, large scale upgrades to a design is carried out by observing the flaws and limitations of the preceding ships. Arihant has just begun its trials. It will be a long time before a database of shortcomings are generated.

Sorry but the fact is that there are actually 4 Arihant planned . A 1 is for studies and improvements . A2 is the INS Arihant more like a technological demonstrator . A3 is INS Aridhaman which is nearing completion and it is more powerful than Ins Arihant . With more missile carried. Which I guess to its full potential . This is one of the reason I belive Arihant is more than 6000 T

 

[Didact]

Sorry but the fact is that there are actually 4 Arihant planned . A 1 is for studies and improvements . A2 is the INS Arihant more like a technological demonstrator . A3 is INS Aridhaman which is nearing completion and it is more powerful than Ins Arihant . With more missile carried. Which I guess to its full potential . This is one of the reason I belive Arihant is more than 6000 T

S-1 was just the test bed for the nuclear reactor, nothing more.

You could look at the entire Arihant class SSBNs as a technology demonstrator, and that would probably be right in the larger scheme of things, but if you were to suggest that S-2 is a TD while S-3& S-4 are the real deal, then you are dead wrong.

There is always a time gap allowed between commencing construction of the prototype and the final product. Hell, there is always a time lag between two successive TDs. If you don't believe me check out the TDs for the LCH or the LCA. All R&D projects follow a similar path.

Each TD builds on the experience and shortcomings of the previous TD, and this process continues till the final desired product is achieved. In case of the ATV, S-3 began construction soon after S-2 began its construction, which rules out any corrections to the design of the S-2. In fact, this also shows that the same design was adopted for the S-3.

Now if you have any proof, even circumstantial proof to back up your beliefs, I'd be glad to listen to them.

 

[Ind4Ever]

S-1 was just the test bed for the nuclear reactor, nothing more.

You could look at the entire Arihant class SSBNs as a technology demonstrator, and that would probably be right in the larger scheme of things, but if you were to suggest that S-2 is a TD while S-3& S-4 are the real deal, then you are dead wrong.

There is always a time gap allowed between commencing construction of the prototype and the final product. Hell, there is always a time lag between two successive TDs. If you don't believe me check out the TDs for the LCH or the LCA. All R&D projects follow a similar path.

Each TD builds on the experience and shortcomings of the previous TD, and this process continues till the final desired product is achieved. In case of the ATV, S-3 began construction soon after S-2 began its construction, which rules out any corrections to the design of the S-2. In fact, this also shows that the same design was adopted for the S-3.

Now if you have any proof, even circumstantial proof to back up your beliefs, I'd be glad to listen to them.

I agree to a some extend when you said S1 is a half completed Arihant for nuclear reactor validation .

I also agree with the point which said Whole Arihant-class is a technology demonstrator.

But when you look at these things very deeply on their configuration you will notice some differences . Yes you are correct S3 construction started as soon as S2 completed or at the same same time . So no major changes might be made. But the point is ... ok let me break it down ..

INS Arihant - 6000 T , 12 Sagarika / K-15 or 4 K -4 which has already test fired

INS Aridhaman - 6,000-tonne will carry 24 K15 or 8 K4 .
Now this is something we can get something out of it . All other Arihant-class will follow Aridhaman . Even though the size will be same the improvement made to Aridhaman is totally different and it's doubles the capabilities of Arihant . So I really don't belive the Size is just 6000 T . May or should be more . I don't say Arihant is smaller but may be due to our first TD we used less complexity by reducing the total play load by half.

So I belive S2 is our 2nd TD after S1 . Don't be surprised if we see 1000t added to S4 which is in advanced stages of Hull fabrication and basic structure

Because S4 can be used for our future SSBN .