Indonesia Defence Forum

[Raduga]

If we really gonna have this LPH the next step would be having Aircraft carrier. (IMO). And also is either LPH/LHD, no need to have both, untuk jumlah menyesuaikan.
Conventional aircraft carrier with catobar system, like HMS Queen Elizabeth but with catobar system like clemencau.
I wonder if the KFX can be developed into naval version, though it wasn't designed to form the beginning, just like gripen, but there is proposed naval version of gripen. It will be a big challenge tho, strengthening the airframe etc.
While we are still lacking combat vessels and support vessels, current vessels accusitions should take into consideration of the possible accusition of LHD/LPH/AC in the future.
This LPH wont be realized in the near future but at least they already working on it, dan untuk aircraft carrier bisa nyicil dulu konsepnya.

maybe we should increase more naval chopper fleet first (cobra or zulu for penerbal maybe) , before thinking to own LHD or LPH , anyway , the bangladesh already set to procure AH-64 Apache , looks like boeing were going nuts with their marketing .

 

[Jatosint]

”Dulu, waktu kapal pertama diserahterimakan di Korea, memang ada 12 masalah di kapal selam tersebut. Kita datangkan ahlinya, lalu akhirnya berkurang masalahnya, tinggal lima kendala. Kapal selam yang dibuat kedua sudah jauh lebih baik penyelesaiannya"

"Seluruh masalah terkait kerja sama produksi kapal selam telah diselesaikan. Sejauh ini, kapal selam yang dibuat PT PAL dinilai sudah cukup bagus. Bahkan, kapal selam ketiga telah berhasil melakukan sejumlah tes yang sebelumnya belum pernah dilakukan di Indonesia. ”Senin kemarin, saya ikut sendiri tes kapal selam di kedalaman 250 meter yang berarti tekanan 25 bar, beberapa tes yang dicujicobakan berhasil kita laksanakan"

 

[Raduga]

View attachment 601246 ”Dulu, waktu kapal pertama diserahterimakan di Korea, memang ada 12 masalah di kapal selam tersebut. Kita datangkan ahlinya, lalu akhirnya berkurang masalahnya, tinggal lima kendala. Kapal selam yang dibuat kedua sudah jauh lebih baik penyelesaiannya"

"Seluruh masalah terkait kerja sama produksi kapal selam telah diselesaikan. Sejauh ini, kapal selam yang dibuat PT PAL dinilai sudah cukup bagus. Bahkan, kapal selam ketiga telah berhasil melakukan sejumlah tes yang sebelumnya belum pernah dilakukan di Indonesia. ”Senin kemarin, saya ikut sendiri tes kapal selam di kedalaman 250 meter yang berarti tekanan 25 bar, beberapa tes yang dicujicobakan berhasil kita laksanakan"

hope everything goes well and sorted out , especially the IF-X .

 

[mandala]

What is the requirement for TNI-AL OPV? Is it 90 or 95 meter? PT DRU and Tesco are 95 meters while PT PAL is 90 meters.

 

[Raduga]

What is the requirement for TNI-AL OPV? Is it 90 or 95 meter? PT DRU and Tesco are 95 meters while PT PAL is 90 meters.

maybe 90-100 meter range

 

[striver44]

If we really gonna have this LPH the next step would be having Aircraft carrier. (IMO). And also it's either LPH/LHD, no need to have both, untuk jumlah menyesuaikan.
Conventional aircraft carrier with catobar system, like HMS Queen Elizabeth but with catobar system like clemencau.
I wonder if the KFX can be developed into naval version, though it wasn't designed to form the beginning, just like gripen, but there is proposed naval version of gripen. It will be a big challenge tho, strengthening the airframe etc.
While we are still lacking combat vessels and support vessels, current vessels accusitions should take into consideration of the possible accusition of LHD/LPH/AC in the future.
This LPH wont be realized in the near future but at least they already working on it, dan untuk aircraft carrier bisa nyicil dulu konsepnya.

The question is, kapal induk buat apa?

 

[GraveDigger388]

The question is, kapal induk buat apa?

Blue water forces in the far future. Who's to say our doctrine will stay with the current one.

That said, there's no immediate need for one, yet. Not now.

 

[Kansel]

The question is, kapal induk buat apa?

*Uhuk
•operation unified assistance
•Australian bushfires
•and much more for disaster relief

Looking forward for things like this for our Navy

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[striver44]

*Uhuk
•operation unified assistance
•Australian bushfires
•and much more for disaster relief

Looking forward for things like this for our Navy

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You'll need lhd for that not pure catobar/stobar carrier that people talk about here.

 

[umigami]

Blue water forces in the far future. Who's to say our doctrine will stay with the current one.

That said, there's no immediate need for one, yet. Not now.

Are we really have any interest that have to be protected out there?
US -> polisi dunia
China -> LCS, some base in Africa

 

[Raduga]

*Uhuk
•operation unified assistance
•Australian bushfires
•and much more for disaster relief

Looking forward for things like this for our Navy

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Better get the zulu

 

[NEKONEKO]

We don't need something like aircraft carrier

We don't need something like aircraft carrier in the near future.

The question is, kapal induk buat apa?

Blue water forces in the far future. Who's to say our doctrine will stay with the current one.

That said, there's no immediate need for one, yet. Not now.

Buat dipake.
Tapi masih jauh kedepan (yang pasti lebih dari 25 tahun kedepan, lebih condong ke 30+), untuk asset seperti kapal induk persiapan perencanaan bakalan lama, kalau untuk Cina mereka beli Varyag tahun 1998 dan kombat ready tahun 2016 (18 tahun), pastinya perencanaannya sudah lama tidak ditahun1998 tiba tiba pengen.
Kalau untuk Liaoning emang lama karena bangun ulang kapal bekas, sekalian air wingnya disiapin mumpung kapal belum selesai.

*Uhuk
•operation unified assistance
•Australian bushfires
•and much more for disaster relief

Malah LHD/LPD yang cocok, LHD paling cocok. LHD ngangkut lebih banyak heli bahkan LCU, AC ngangkut banyak pespur.

 

[trishna_amṛta]

Remember we got the Leopard from Germany instead from initially Netherlands. There were some rejection from the leftist party at Germany parlements however not as radical as Netherlands.

TBH the Koninklijke Landmacht Leopard stock was ill maintained with most of them aren't even in operating condition. At least the German offer include refurbishment which can't be said if we bought those Leopard from Koninklijke Landmacht stock

(Well, I only use or share open source info in all my tweets, obviously to spare me from any strange 'Black Avanza' or 'Abang Nasi Goreng' near my house)

Jaman sekarang jualan bakso mereka. Lebih gampang bikinnya soalnya

 

[NEKONEKO]

Are we really have any interest that have to be protected out there?

Pretty sure we have many interest out there, tinggal seberapa jauh mau diperjuangkan.
Somali pirates, Oil supply from middle east, jalur perdagangan ke eropa dan asia timur dll. Mungkin juga masalah dengan kelompok bersenjata dari wilayah filipina selatan, tapi cukup deket sebelah rumah doang.

 

[striver44]

Buat dipake.
Tapi masih jauh kedepan (yang pasti lebih dari 25 tahun kedepan, lebih condong ke 30+), untuk asset seperti kapal induk persiapan perencanaan bakalan lama, kalau untuk Cina mereka beli Varyag tahun 1998 dan kombat ready tahun 2016 (18 tahun), pastinya perencanaannya sudah lama tidak ditahun1998 tiba tiba pengen.
Kalau untuk Liaoning emang lama karena bangun ulang kapal bekas, sekalian air wingnya disiapin mumpung kapal belum selesai.


Malah LHD/LPD yang cocok, LHD paling cocok. LHD ngangkut lebih banyak heli bahkan LCU, AC ngangkut banyak pespur.

Dipake buat apa? Fleet vs fleet combat? What interest does we have outside of our national terriory?unless senayan politician suddenly sees military adventurism than i dont see the need for an "aircraft carrier"...
LHD itu beda cerita