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Kemana tuh thread sticky tetangga sebelah? Di un-sticky karena anggotanya lelah dibully? :o: @Indos @pr1v4t33r

Enggak ada tuh yg di un-sticky, looks normal for me. Ada sih yg tiba-tiba jadi kurang aktif karena membernya banyak di ban dan member yg enggak suka treatment seperti itu jadi pada males datang.

Mungkin @ Bennedict ignoring Viet, jadi threadnya gak tampil... soalnya dia thread starternya
 
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@pr1v4t33r sengaja di ignore lagian ribut mulu en rusuh sih haha, mereka pergi juga tuh lama-lama lol
 
Indonesian navy orders 11 Panther copters to re-enact anti-submarine squadron

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JAKARTA, Sept. 16 (Xinhua) -- A senior officer of the Indonesian Navy said on Wednesday that it has ordered 11 Panther helicopters to re-enact its anti-submarine unit Squadron 100 which stopped the service in the late 1980s.

"The helicopters would be delivered gradually with four units to arrive by 2017," Navy spokesperson Rear Admiral M Zainuddin said.

Soon after the arrival of the helicopters, the squadron will be activated, he said, adding that the contract to acquire those helicopters has been approved by government and the producer.

Squadron 100 was once regarded as one of the most powerful military units in the world in the 1960s.

The Eurocopter SA 565 Panther helicopter is designed to carry out a wide range of military operations that include combat assault, fire support, anti-submarine warfare, anti-surface warfare, search and rescue and medical evacuation.

The naval variant of SA 565 Panther now serves navies of the United Arab Emirates, Mexico, China, Bulgaria and France.

Zainuddin said that the Navy is also expecting the arrival of six submarines - three Chang Bogo-class and three Kilo-class. The first three are scheduled to be delivered in 2017.
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Another Kilo-class rumor surfaced again.

Old news and rumor raised again, in 2007-2010's Indonesian Navy Chief stated that Indonesia will acquire 10 secondhand Kilo-class under $1 Billion arms package from Russia. This statement lead to many concern and pressure from many neighboring countries. The plan cancelled and the SU-30MK/MK2 and several BMP-3's procured instead of Kilo.

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Indonesia-Russia submarine Deal Raises Concern
Voice of America (VOA) ^ | 11th September 2007 | Chad Bouchard
Posted on 9/11/2007, 11:25:44

Indonesia has signed a $1 billion arms package to update its crumbling military. The agreement with Russia includes contracts for two submarines and contains an option to purchase up to eight more over the next 15 years. As Chad Bouchard reports from Jakarta, that plan is raising concerns among other Pacific nations.

Under the turbid waters of the Western Pacific, a quiet arms race is threatening to upset the fragile balance of power between nations.

Military analysts say Indonesia's deal with Russia last week, which included two of Russia's famously stealthy Kilo-class submarines, is the latest development in an ongoing underwater arms race across the region.

Andrew Davies is the author of The Enemy Below, a report published by the Australian Strategic Policy Institute think-tank. He predicts increasing underwater traffic could lead to a serious international incident.

"When you have submarine operations, especially if people go and operate in other people's sovereign waters, you have one little accident, you know a submarine bumps into a ship or something like that - and these things do happen; even US submarines bump into ships occasionally, you're setting yourself up for a very significant diplomatic issue, especially if the two countries happen to not like one another," he noted.

Japan has asked Indonesia to explain why it needs so much firepower under the sea.

Designed mainly for use against commercial ships and combat against enemy submarines in shallow waters, the Kilo-class 636 is one of the world's most advanced diesel-engine vessels.

The US Navy has nicknamed it the "black hole" because its engine is so quiet it can slip in and out of detection.

Davies says that kind of equipment makes neighboring countries very nervous.

"The nature of submarines is that people are deeply suspicious of them, and while international law says that if you're in someone else's waters you have to transit on the surface - but that's more honored on the bridge than on the observance, I'd suggest," he said.

Indonesia says it needs to expand its submarine fleet, as part of an effort to modernize the country's military equipment, which has suffered under a floundering economy.

Earlier this year the country's Minister of Defense struggled to get half of his budget funded.

The new line of credit with Russia will provide more flexibility.

Indonesia currently operates two outdated German submarines, which it purchased in the early 1980s.

Indonesia's spokesman for the military, Rear Admiral Sunarto Sjoekronoputro, says increasing naval power is critical for a country of about 17,000 islands.

He says in order to secure the country's maritime borders and preserve Indonesia's sovereignty, two outdated submarines are not enough.

Sunarto says neighboring countries should not feel threatened by Indonesia's expanding submarine fleet, just as Indonesia does not feel threatened by expanding fleets in Singapore, Malaysia and Australia.

He says Indonesia is confident they can work out their disputes diplomatically, but also wants to be able to back up its agreements.

By 2016, Singapore plans to have a total of six submarines, and Australia will upgrade its half-dozen more robust Collins-class vessels.

Indonesia's deal with Russia is also seen as part of efforts to lessen dependence on the U.S. as its chief military supplier. Washington imposed an arms embargo on Indonesia in 1999 over human rights concerns in the country's former province of East Timor. Sanctions were extended in 2002 over the murders of two American teachers at the Freeport copper and gold mine in Papua.

Kusnanto Anggoro, a political and military affairs analyst with Jakarta's Centre for Strategic International Studies, says Russia's arms package comes with no strings attached.

"That is basically a diversification of the defense resources, especially because of the problems that we've had, with the West," noted Kusnanto, "especially the U.S., during the last couple of years. It's improving but at least Indonesia has to show that it has an alternative source for defense."

He adds that Indonesia should make it clear to neighboring countries that the military upgrade is not meant as a threat.

"The new defense instruments - the weaponry and so on - is basically for something like defensive purposes, not for the offense," he said. "So, we need, of course, within the context of other Southeast Asian countries, to build more sort of confidence and trust building."

Defense advisers in Australia are concerned that their country's regional naval superiority is under attack.

Though Australia's Collins-class subs are considered superior even to the Kilo-class vessels Indonesia has on order, Australia lacks the equipment needed to track and detect subs at sea.

Andrew Davies says Russia's deal with Indonesia should alarm military planners in Australia.

"I think Australia's ability to operate against submarines is very poor at the moment," Davies said. "We're about to build some new warships and we're getting to a critical point where we have to make some decisions about our naval helicopters. And I think we have to focus on anti-submarine capabilities in both of those things. We haven't done anything for the last 20 years. Literally nothing."

Davies says China's increasing naval power may be fueling the undersea arms race.

American intelligence officials report that China plans to build five long-range boats capable of firing nuclear missiles with multiple warheads at sea.

With strategically significant waters surrounding the archipelago nation, Indonesia may be in the middle of what some are calling a new arms race in Asia.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-.../1894711/posts
 
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Indonesian, Thai Armed Forces Gather for Ninth Joint Defense Meeting


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Jakarta.
Top officials fromIndonesian and Thai security forces gathered in Thailand on Thursday for the ninth Thailand-Indonesia High Level Committee to discuss bilateral, military ties between the two Southeast Asian nations.

This year's installment of the annual reciprocal meeting took place at the Royal Thai Armed Forces (RTARF) Headquarters in Thailand and was lead by Indonesian Military (TNI) Chief Lt. Gen. Gatot Nurmantyo and his Thai counterpart, Chief of the Defense Forces Gen. Worapong Sanganetra.

The meeting's agenda covered an array of collaborations between the two armed forces, including the Joint Intelligence Sub-Committee, Joint Coordinated Operations and Exercises Sub-Committee and Joint Education and Training Sub-Committee (JETSC).

"There are regions in both countries where security is still an issue. This gives us the opportunity to conduct joint training programs and enhance our interoperability in eliminating terror threats," Nurmantyo said.

The TNI chief was accompanied by a slew of high-ranking officials, including Indonesian Ambassador to Thailand Lutfi Rauf, army Deputy Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. M. Erwin Syafitri, air force Deputy Chief of Staff Vice Marshal Bagus Puruhito and the Defense Ministry's director general for defense strategy Yoedhi Swastanto.

A bomb tore through a busy Bangkok tourist area on Aug. 17, killing more than 20 people, including one Indonesian national. The incident is believed to be an international terror plot conceived by sympathizers of Uighur Muslims.

Indonesian, Thai Armed Forces Gather for Ninth Joint Defense Meeting | Jakarta Globe
 
Minister of Defense Review Border Security Post in Natuna and Sekatung Island near the South China Sea

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"Defense ministry will put the fighter here (Natuna) and battleships here and radar more recent than that now and then drone ", said the minister during a working visit to the island of Natuna, Riau Islands, Wednesday (16/9).

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Visits were conducted over two days is intended to review and look to see firsthand how the condition of Natuna Island especially national defense infrastructure that will be as an ingredient in making a national defense policy, especially in border areas and the outer islands.

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Sekatung Island, Defence Secretary had the opportunity to give guidance to 20 Army personnel consisting of 10 Soldiers Marines Marine Brigade 8 Brandan Medan and 10 Army Infantry Soldiers from Battalion 134 Reader Batam.

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In addition, to strengthen the country's defense in the Natuna, Ministry of Defense also plans to will provide knowledge provisioning Natuna to residents which are 85.000 people that have a love of country. "In this border area. People of Natuna must first be equipped to defend the country and be the people who are trained and militant people", he added.

Sekatung Island is an island leading bordering Vietnam and adjacent to the South China Sea. Administratively, the island Sekatung entered in the District of Sea Island, Natuna, Riau Islands Province.
 
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