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India's Uncompromising Stand Against China in the Himalayas Is Backed Up With Hard Power

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India’s National Security Adviser Ajit Doval is back from Beijing after attending the BRICS national security advisers’ conclave and meeting his Chinese counterpart, Yang Jiechi, but there is no sign yet of the standoff between Indian and Chinese troops at the Dolam (Doklam) plateau ending, almost two months after it began. Both sides have chosen not to comment on outcomes, if any, from the talks that Doval held in Beijing, indicating perhaps that a mutually satisfactory solution still eludes them. Or maybe, Beijing and New Delhi want to consult Bhutan, the third party in this unusual spat, before proceeding further.

Whatever the reason for the silence, the world is surprised at the turn of events since late-May when the border spat began at a point where the boundaries of India-China and Bhutan meet. For one, the vehemence displayed by Chinese commentators was out of the ordinary and so was the aggressive tone of official statements made by government spokespersons in Beijing, accusing India of trespassing into Chinese territory. More unusually however, the calm assurance and panache with which New Delhi has handled the crisis so far points to a far more confident India, a point that would be noticed and studied across important world capitals.

What then is the secret behind New Delhi’s polite yet firm stand?

Several factors ranging from India’s better military posture along the contested border to improved economic heft can be cited for the new approach. However, the biggest reason for India to stand up to China ironically is the blatant attempt by President Xi Jinping to force a China-centric order in Asia, a proposition that no government in New Delhi can agree to under any circumstances. Under Narendra Modi, politically the strongest Prime Minister in India for three decades, accepting China’s hegemony was out of the question, given his muscular national security policies. Very early in his tenure Modi had decided to depart from convention on dealing with China. He broke a long standing taboo of not inviting representatives of the Tibetan government-in-exile and that of Taiwan to official functions, lest Beijing feel offended. The Prime Minister of the Tibetan Government-in-exile and Taiwan’s trade representative were among the select invitees to Modi’s oath taking ceremony in the summer of 2014, setting the tone for a more robust policy towards China.

A border standoff in Ladakh in September 2014—coinciding with President Xi Jinping’s maiden visit to India—witnessed a rare display of India’s new approach of not succumbing to Chinese bullying. After 1,000 Chinese troops intruded into Chumar, a remote border outpost in South-east Ladakh, New Delhi rapidly built up a 9,000-strong force in two days, forcing the PLA to back off. Another similar face-off at Yangtse in Arunachal Pradesh in 2015 with the same result further demonstrated India’s resolve.

That resolve is being backed up with an improved military posture. Building on the modest beginning made under the previous government to improve infrastructure all along the northern frontier, the current government is quietly building capabilities to counter China militarily. Consider this:

  • India’s indigenously developed missiles—Agni, Akash, and Brahmos—are either ready for induction or already inducted into the armed forces, providing potent weapons for use against China.
  • The development of a family of K-Series of submarine-launched ballistic missiles (SLBM)—although mostly shrouded in secrecy—is in a fairly advanced stage, keeping India on track to complete its nuclear triad.
  • After initial reservation against the proposed Mountain Strike Corps (sanctioned by the previous government), the Modi government has revived its support for the project. Two Mountain Divisions meant for the Strike Corps are about to complete their raising in Northern and Eastern Commands. More air assets are planned for Strike Corps. The eventual aim is to build flexibility in its deployment and allow swift switching of forces from one theatre to another.
  • The formation of a Special Forces Division and a cyber and space agency, as prelude to formation of separate tri-services Special Forces, Cyber and Space Commands, has commenced in recent months.
Moreover, Ladakh, the scene of two prominent standoffs in 2013 and 2014, now has an additional infantry brigade stationed permanently in the area while more elements of Northern Command’s reserve division—39—now exercise regularly in the high altitude desert. From the initial induction of a regiment of T-72 tanks done in 2013, India now plans to augment its armor strength to a full-fledged tank brigade in Ladakh.

In the East, the 56 and 71 Mountain Divisions, raised from 2009 onwards, are now firmly placed and deployed on the ground, making more troops available to defense planners.

The Air Force has also staged forward its assets both in the North and the East by deploying the Sukhoi-30 planes at bases close to the Chinese border. Completion of the project to revamp eight Advanced Landing Grounds (ALGs) in Arunachal Pradesh will mean improved connectivity and increased capacity to insert troops in the high altitude areas. The reported deployment of Brahmos Missile regiments along the northern frontiers in the past couple of years means India now has additional offensive capability.

Strategically important roads high in the Himalayas, planned almost a decade ago, are now getting a more focussed attention with more tunnels at high altitude passes being built to allow all-weather traffic.

The Indian Navy, the smallest of the three armed forces, is in the midst of an unprecedented expansion, although the strength of its conventional submarine fleet remains a matter of concern.

There are of course many weaknesses in India’s higher defense management, its procurement systems, and pace of military modernization. Military leaders have spoken about a high degree of obsolescence across the three forces as a result of years of neglect and apathy in military modernization. The Modi government will have to redouble its efforts to overcome the shortages and restructure the management system of the military expeditiously to meet mounting challenges from China and Pakistan.

Overall, however, India’s military strength is right now adequate to hold off any Chinese adventurism across the Himalayas, but not strong enough for an offensive posture. Military analysts however argue that a stronger China will think twice before initiating any conflict with India since Indian soldiers are better trained and battle hardened compared to the PLA troops. That said, neither side will gain anything substantial in a possible armed conflict. That perhaps is the only saving grace in the troubled relationship between India and China at the moment.

http://thediplomat.com/2017/07/indi...n-the-himalayas-is-backed-up-with-hard-power/
 
Proposal: let's make this a decent debate.

Here is what Indians are not getting: the Narendra Modi government is power drunk, power hungry, and power aspiring. They have a typical fundamentalist mindset. In such an atmosphere, it is easy to consider oneself a true power, and display the traits of 'polite yet firm'. One can go through the motions of being 'polite yet firm', but when the time comes for action, reality comes down hard.

But, the most glaring mistake of them all is evaluating India's power in 20th century terminology. Comparing ballistic missiles, SAMs, tanks, soldiers leads to a false sense of security. A war with China will be an informational war. No, this is not spreading disinformation which RAW is very adept at. This is about maintaining information superiority while crippling the enemy's information base. It is about cyber warfare, electromagnetic warfare. In general, unconventional warfare. It would be naïve to think China will not come out with everything it's got when the time comes.

Then, there is planning. Chinese planning is much more superior to Indian planning. This is the nation that gave the world 'The Are of War'. This is the nation that has planned around deadly natural forces, with pinpoint accuracy. And the difference in planning is painfully obvious to the trained eye. Here, I shall not go into the details of Indian failures. After all, one shouldn't interrupt the enemy while he is making a mistake!

Suffice it to say, the Indians shall be in for a rude awakening. China needs to protect its image as a peace loving nation, and thus, has been dealing with India only in the form of rhetoric. It is in India's own best interests to not escalate matters further.

@wanglaokan @Beast @long_ guys let's keep this civil and intelligent.
 
Proposal: let's make this a decent debate.

Here is what Indians are not getting: the Narendra Modi government is power drunk, power hungry, and power aspiring. They have a typical fundamentalist mindset. In such an atmosphere, it is easy to consider oneself a true power, and display the traits of 'polite yet firm'. One can go through the motions of being 'polite yet firm', but when the time comes for action, reality comes down hard.

But, the most glaring mistake of them all is evaluating India's power in 20th century terminology. Comparing ballistic missiles, SAMs, tanks, soldiers leads to a false sense of security. A war with China will be an informational war. No, this is not spreading disinformation which RAW is very adept at. This is about maintaining information superiority while crippling the enemy's information base. It is about cyber warfare, electromagnetic warfare. In general, unconventional warfare. It would be naïve to think China will not come out with everything it's got when the time comes.

Then, there is planning. Chinese planning is much more superior to Indian planning. This is the nation that gave the world 'The Are of War'. This is the nation that has planned around deadly natural forces, with pinpoint accuracy. And the difference in planning is painfully obvious to the trained eye. Here, I shall not go into the details of Indian failures. After all, one shouldn't interrupt the enemy while he is making a mistake!

Suffice it to say, the Indians shall be in for a rude awakening. China needs to protect its image as a peace loving nation, and thus, has been dealing with India only in the form of rhetoric. It is in India's own best interests to not escalate matters further.

@wanglaokan @Beast @long_ guys let's keep this civil and intelligent.

You make for an excellant cheerleader. Do you get paid for this, like your Chinese counterparts here ?
 
China got bamboo from Bhutan, not India.


Proposal: let's make this a decent debate.

Here is what Indians are not getting: the Narendra Modi government is power drunk, power hungry, and power aspiring. They have a typical fundamentalist mindset. In such an atmosphere, it is easy to consider oneself a true power, and display the traits of 'polite yet firm'. One can go through the motions of being 'polite yet firm', but when the time comes for action, reality comes down hard.

But, the most glaring mistake of them all is evaluating India's power in 20th century terminology. Comparing ballistic missiles, SAMs, tanks, soldiers leads to a false sense of security. A war with China will be an informational war. No, this is not spreading disinformation which RAW is very adept at. This is about maintaining information superiority while crippling the enemy's information base. It is about cyber warfare, electromagnetic warfare. In general, unconventional warfare. It would be naïve to think China will not come out with everything it's got when the time comes.

Then, there is planning. Chinese planning is much more superior to Indian planning. This is the nation that gave the world 'The Are of War'. This is the nation that has planned around deadly natural forces, with pinpoint accuracy. And the difference in planning is painfully obvious to the trained eye. Here, I shall not go into the details of Indian failures. After all, one shouldn't interrupt the enemy while he is making a mistake!

Suffice it to say, the Indians shall be in for a rude awakening. China needs to protect its image as a peace loving nation, and thus, has been dealing with India only in the form of rhetoric. It is in India's own best interests to not escalate matters further.

@wanglaokan @Beast @long_ guys let's keep this civil and intelligent.


You own best cheerleader for today!

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Proposal: let's make this a decent debate.

Here is what Indians are not getting: the Narendra Modi government is power drunk, power hungry, and power aspiring. They have a typical fundamentalist mindset. In such an atmosphere, it is easy to consider oneself a true power, and display the traits of 'polite yet firm'. One can go through the motions of being 'polite yet firm', but when the time comes for action, reality comes down hard.

But, the most glaring mistake of them all is evaluating India's power in 20th century terminology. Comparing ballistic missiles, SAMs, tanks, soldiers leads to a false sense of security. A war with China will be an informational war. No, this is not spreading disinformation which RAW is very adept at. This is about maintaining information superiority while crippling the enemy's information base. It is about cyber warfare, electromagnetic warfare. In general, unconventional warfare. It would be naïve to think China will not come out with everything it's got when the time comes.

Then, there is planning. Chinese planning is much more superior to Indian planning. This is the nation that gave the world 'The Are of War'. This is the nation that has planned around deadly natural forces, with pinpoint accuracy. And the difference in planning is painfully obvious to the trained eye. Here, I shall not go into the details of Indian failures. After all, one shouldn't interrupt the enemy while he is making a mistake!

Suffice it to say, the Indians shall be in for a rude awakening. China needs to protect its image as a peace loving nation, and thus, has been dealing with India only in the form of rhetoric. It is in India's own best interests to not escalate matters further.

@wanglaokan @Beast @long_ guys let's keep this civil and intelligent.

The first bullet China will fire will make it lose billions of dollars of business. Vivo, Oppo, Huwaei, Xiomi who rule the roost here in India will be kicked out in no time and no not by the government but by the people themselves
 
No such thing as hard power.

India will fall apart like iraq once invaded, looking at current state, no troops have the resolve to defend this drain country..
 
The first bullet China will fire will make it lose billions of dollars of business. Vivo, Oppo, Huwaei, Xiomi who rule the roost here in India will be kicked out in no time and no not by the government but by the people themselves
To be honest. I think that's what the Modi government wants. A reason to expel the Chinese. But it's a dangerous game and a double edged sword.

No such thing as hard power.

India will fall apart like iraq once invaded, looking at current state, no troops have the resolve to defend this drain country..
Brain fart noted. Move on.
 
To be honest. I think that's what the Modi government wants. A reason to expel the Chinese. But it's a dangerous game and a double edged sword.


Brain fart noted. Move on.

Sometimes u should google india and see what kind of google search results u get.

All the google search results i get were all negative.

The last thing anyone will note is that india is a 'hard power'
 
Sometimes u should google india and see what kind of google search results u get.

All the google search results i get were all negative.

The last thing anyone will note is that india is a 'hard power'
Another stupid comment. It's an algorithm. You always search for Negative contents from India, and when you type India, that's all you get.
I can search why China is stupid, Why China is dirty Why Chinese are dangerous etc.. for a week and I can get similar results.

Like I said, you got nothing worth to discuss. Not in one section I have seen you posting anything productive. I very well know you are a false flag. So save me the BS:lol:
 
India should scrap it's NFU policy and invite China to attack, that would be fun :D:D
 
The PLA of today is a conscript army with zero experience.IA is battle hardened with mountain specialists and a fully volunteer force.All major armies have rejected the old conscript army system,russia is phasing it out.These are people randomly selected from amongst the population for a 2 year service period(they don't want to be there but are obligated to service),compared to our volunteer soldiers who serve continuously for over 2 decades at the least.Yet not only do chinese keepthe conscript system around,they even keep around the pathetic political commissar system(until 2000 they didn't even have a NCO system) -their junior officers in effect have no initiative of their own and can't operate without orders confirmed from political commissars which is how CCP maintains its hold over the army.On top of that these conscripts will be of the one child generation,if they die their whole bloodline gets wiped out.Lets see how many Han conscripts come die in the barren mountains.
 
The PLA of today is a conscript army with zero experience.IA is battle hardened with mountain specialists and a fully volunteer force.All major armies have rejected the old conscript army system,russia is phasing it out.These are low morale people randomly selected from amongst the population for a 2 year service period,compared to our soldiers who serve for over 2 decades at the least.Yet not only do chinese keepthe conscript system around,they even keep around the pathetic political commissar system(until 2000 they didn't even have a NCO system) -their junior officers in effect have no initiative of their own and can't operate without orders confirmed from political commissars which is how CCP maintains its hold over the army.On top of that these conscripts will be of the one child generation,if they die their whole bloodline gets wiped out.Lets see how many Han conscripts come die in the barren mountains.

You are seeped in 20th century warfare. If this is how you envision a war with China, you've already lost.
 
You are seeped in 20th century warfare. If this is how you envision a war with China, you've already lost.

No the Chinese army system is seeped in 20th century thought.Conscript armies of poorly trained,mass soldiers tightly controlled by centralized direction are a thing of the world war period.All armies have moved on,only PLA still hangs on to it.
 
No the Chinese army system is seeped in 20th century thought.Conscript armies of poorly trained,mass soldiers tightly controlled by centralized direction are a thing of the world war period.All armies have moved on,only PLA still hangs on to it.

Well, let's hope you guys find it out the hard way.
 
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