Umair Nawaz
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in 8th century the first army came here in Sindh province of Pakistan and beaten the local monarch of Raja Dahir. We just stayed there for just 4 years to reinstalled a just Government and bring that rule of law again. Thats all. The army came under the command of 17 years old Mohammad Bin Qasim, he was send by Emperor of Persia, Siraj ud Dohla after the request of a Sufi Saint i think it was Khawaja Chistie(?) because Dahir was very cruel, an ultra type cruel he was the sindhi version of yr modi!!!Yes, the combined rule of Muslims may be close to 1000 yrs. IN S.A but you cannot say that the Muslims ruled S.A and hence India for 1000 yrs.......there is a difference between ruling in S.A(ruling parts of S.A) and ruling S.A(ruling majority/all of S.A).....
That guy in post #8 said that Muslims ruled India for 1000 yrs.(to which I objected and you objected to my objection).....You're counting from 800 CE i.e from the period when Arab incursions started but the Arabs were unable to proceed beyond Sindh i.e they were contained within modern day Afghanistan and parts of Pakistan by Indian kings......subsequent incursions further east were repelled by Indian kings till 12th century, therefore, you can safely deduct at least 400 yrs. from your 1000 year propaganda if you're talking about modern day India......
Now, we see that the Islamic 'Delhi Sultanate', from the 'slave dynasty' to the 'Lodhi Dynasty', lasted for approx. 300 yrs. but it covered only parts of S.A, then the Mughals ruled majority of S.A for approx. 200 yrs......
So, the Muslims actually ruled S.A and hence India, for only 200 yrs......even if you consider 'Delhi Sultanate' on the basis that it covered parts of India, you have approx. 300+200=500 yrs.....
Thats why army was send just to defeat and kill him and reestablish the rule of law of a new government of locals who were just. When that happened the Army returned back. Its objectives werent there to stay and go further east and continue their conquest. That was the time in 8th century we started our rule, maybe just for 4 yrs
Im not a very expert in history but i think it was later Mahmood Ghauri(?) who came here for a real conquest.
And he got banned not me isnt it?You are the one who deserves a ban, since you called a whole nation as 'cavemen' and the member you quoted as a 'buffoon'. These 'cavemen', although being under toughest sanctions, still have a better life than majority of Pakistani people, with all due respect to all dear Pakistanis, but this is not the first time I'm hearing insults from some Pakistani members towards Iran, and I'm used to it somehow, while I barely see any Indian insulting Iran here.
We were discussing the Muslim History and the glorious time we ruled the entire world for abt 1000 years, it was him who said Iranis humiliate u (pakistanis) read post#88 then in response post#89 in which i tried to explain the irani attitude that i have observed post revolution (yes that could be because sanctions) the isolation in which yr post generations of young that have grown in yr country. And i tried to explain why they (irani nations) do that. As an example let me remind u of people like Yavar, Sohail etc etc, have u even seen heir attitude? From my experience there are just 2 irani members worth a debate one is u and other is Mr Haman 10. U try to debate with an open mind and cool mind. That attitude i havnt seen in other members of iran in this forum (no offence). Even dont buy much into him even these indians dont agree with everything u say, remember the thread where u guys refused the gas field initiative their government had proposed(?) remember that?
Brother look im no ordinary citizen of my country, thats why i understand the importance of iran not just iran but of the persian empire, we have learnt a lot from it, even Islam came in Pakistan through persian empire, these people want us to abandon them all and our cultural, religious roots with not just iran but with muslim world. (u can read his previous posts as well before post#88 with me) and the fact that he forced me in post#88 to tell him that how much contribution we gave to iran (nuclear) and its military.
Hope u get it now. Just try to understand these indians they are not friends of us muslims.