India's arable land is far higher than China. But why China is the world's largest rice producing?

[313ghazi]

northern Chinese eat a lot of wheat/corn based food, like noodles, steamed buns, dumplings, crepes, etc.

Thanks. I did not know that. I should have guessed after all Noodles are Chinese.

 

[Kathin_Singh]

India rice matures two times a year

Only in coastal areas where rain is plenty

 

[nang2]

Only in coastal areas where rain is plenty

I guess the rain pattern does play a crucial role. In Thailand, Vietnam and some part of south China, rice can mature thrice a year. such rice doesn't taste very good though.

 

[Offshore]

@Two Nope the fundamental struggle is not about "tradition" but rather about "The Scientific Method".....If the Han Revival system doesnot inculcate a type of thinking in children that opposes "The Scientific Method" then Yes tradition is good and may be beneficial in terms of imparting a sense of racial pride in youth (which is also absolutely important)

But if Chinese when going back to tradition again start promoting "chi" based martial arts OR "chi" based medical philosophies then I am afraid they are rushing headlong back into the pre-modern era

I hope there is a modicum of scientific belief among the Chinese..for example what do you think happens to you when you die? I think most Chinese belief that they stop existing after death...is that true? if that is true that is an excellent excellent starting point to build a highly scientific society not unlike say Japan or Scandanavia ..I personally think after death I will return to the state I was in before I was born-Absolutely Nothing



Now the problem with India is India's tradition mean the following things:

1) Belief that Astrologers and Indian Astrology can correctly predict the life course of an individual
2) That the Indian Pantheon of Gods take an active interest in the fate of individual Indian Lives and would change them for the better, if you pray to them or worship them ----------------this is so comical if Indian Gods love India or Indian people so much, why didnot they stop the repeated invasions from the Steppes and Central Asia from 200 BC to 1761 AD


3) That Indian Yogis and Holy men hold immense hold immense spiritual power on the basis of their celibacy,spiritual asceticism, meditation, mantra chanting

4) They can use this spiritual powers to show magical superpowers, bless people with money, bend time and the nature of reality, change the fortune of a person, group of people or even whole nations


5) These Yogis can routinely break the laws of physics, levitate, go without food and water forever

6) Yogis donot defecate and even if they do their excreta magically fly off in the air to heaven ...It is basically wandering vagabond Yogis who popularized open defecation in India


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when you have this sort of insane traditional beliefs, it cannot ever be good..and regarding Han revival be always vigilant about creeping non-scientific mindset and intrusion of magical thinking

else all the gains you guys have made would quickly vanish into the air..But I feel as long as 90% of Chinese believe that they stop existing at death--------nobody can shake the scientific foundations of China

the revival of Han means the revival of Confucius value, something like South korea and Japan had in social life, it make people behave more polite and humble and calm.
China lost that value during Cultural Revolution.

talking about life after death, majority of Chinese believe we all part of Nature, when we died, we became one with earth in whatever form. it's also part of Confucius teaching.
the core of Confucius is life in harmony with nature

 

[rambro]

Rice is commonly eaten in grain form
It can be turn into flour and make bread

You don't have to be happy. This video caused a "internet war" in China. China Christian population increased to 100 million. The Buddhist population remained at 250 million. I don't think they're superstitious. In fact, they are more middle class. So their beliefs don't interfere with their normal thinking.

A very interesting thing. China is restoring tradition. such as —— The Han Culture movement. Relating to, China now appeared "traditional schools”. Very popular, many parents send their children to "traditional schools"". Learning etiquette, musical instruments, Confucianism etc.

So tradition is good, but why is India opposite?.
I don't know.

This reminds me of zheng he voyage to malaysia in the ancient days.

He came, he trade, he left.
Some stayed.

 

[Offshore]

Does that, "becoming one with earth in whatever form", also include the continuation of conscious experience?

No, it's just like tree, when he died, he became one with earth. human also no different. animal also no different.
we all part of nature.

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

No, it's just like tree, when he died, he became one with earth. human also no different. animal also no different.
we all part of nature.

sorry I mistakenly deleted my original question..but immense thanks for replying...well this sort of thinking means China is poised to take over the Burden of Scientific Revolution from the White Man...Best of Luck...Japan could have taken over, but could not because 120 million Japanese cannot take over from 1 billion whites and moreover Japanese are becoming sexless, infertile,sterile..but 1.3 billion Chinese can certainly take over from 1 billion whites in terms of prgressing Science...whites are sadly descending into collective madness...they are giving free permanent residence to even the Low IQs of the Third World

 

[Gibbs]

I was elated when that video went viral in China...it was seeing China from going 75% Scientific to 100% Scientific

Yes, India cannot or WILL not abandon tradition for modernity because of a false sense of pride and arrogance...that would be its undoing...and I think if things go on like this the Indian-Union won't survive this century and would break up into smaller entities.....with some parts choosing modernity, progress,Scientific Method, refutation of the Supernatural and others choosing more of the same

Now Indian posters would now get butthurt and tell you about the scientific achievement of India of India since Independence while completely missing the point

The Scientific achievements of India were pulled off by the cognitively top 1-2% of India...put that 2% in the middle of a malaria infested jungle in Africa and they would still create paradise

it is the bottom 98 percent that is stuck in superstition, religion, belief in the supernatural,stagnation, non-scientific mindset etc etc


Now Indians will say that Westerners believe in the supernatural too
But the belief in the supernatural in India is different in quality and also a few orders of magnitude higher than in West

The Yogis and Babas enjoy the money(often billions) and wives of Indians by demonstrating few magic tricks and then claiming they are getting their supernatural powers from Yoga or God


The country has absolutely no tradition of Critical Thinking and Rational Questioning

Could be said the exact when it comes to post colonial Sri Lanka

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

Could be said the exact when it comes to post colonial Sri Lanka

You guys are better placed still....biggest problem is North-Indian Hindi belt...without major surgery of the mindset of that region, we are basically fucked

 

[Gibbs]

You guys are better placed still....biggest problem is North-Indian Hindi belt...without major surgery of the mindset of that region, we are basically fucked

Going rapidly down the drain though.. They have leaders there both govt and opposition including the president that run over to South India at any given opportunity to get advise from Indian holy men on how to govern the island..While dreaming of making it in to the next Singapore.. Need i say more.. It's a complete third world joke mate

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

Going rapidly down the drain though.. They have leaders there both govt and opposition including the president that run over to South India at any given opportunity to get advise from Indian holy men on how to govern the island.. Need i say more.. It's a complete third world joke mate

what the faaaacckkk?? Tell me more..you guyz are supposed to be Theravada Buddhists..much more rational than modern children's fairy tale Hinduism ..why would you guyz even do that? why run to Hindu sages in South India?

 

[Gibbs]

what the faaaacckkk?? Tell me more..you guyz are supposed to be Theravada Buddhists..much more rational than modern children's fairy tale Hinduism ..why would you guyz even do that? why run to Hindu sages in South India?

That's how fecked up the political leadership has become there, Classic example the former president and tin pot dictator Mahinda Rajapaksa called elections ironically to his demise two years ahead of end of his term because his soothsayer advised him to, Now the PDF Indian key board warriors like to think the RAW had a hand in regime change but in fact it was because the pissants that's at the leadership of the country has become so superstitious, That include the current regime

I guess being unimaginably corrupt make these buffoons believe that only the super natural can save them

Buddhism in Sri Lanka is altogether a different animal, It has become so politicized especially the Sangha.. It's become a often corrupt violent tool in nationalism than what the philosophy the lord Buddha preached

On topic though.. India is actually self sufficient in food production.. But due to corruption and stoic bureaucracy most of it gets destroyed at storage and transportation and does not end up with the consumer

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

That's how fecked up the political leadership has become there, Classic example the former president and tin pot dictator Mahinda Rajapaksa called elections ironically to his demise two years ahead of end of his term because his soothsayer advised him to, Now the PDF Indian key board warriors like to think the RAW had a hand in regime change but in fact it was because the pissants that's at the leadership of the country has become so superstitious, That include the current regime

I guess being unimaginably corrupt make these buffoons believe that only the super natural can save them

Buddhism in Sri Lanka is altogether a different animal, It has become so politicized especially the Sangha.. It's become a often corrupt violent tool in nationalism than what the philosophy the lord Buddha preached

On topic though.. India is actually self sufficient in food production.. But due to corruption and stoic bureaucracy most of it gets destroyed at storage and transportation and does not end up with the consumer

You know how I see it and how I will rail against this collective spiritual mumbo-jumbo madness?

An elite group of South Asian expats should reach their full potential abroad...then leave their spouse and adult children there and come back to South Asia at age 60-65..and then fully engage themselves in the frontlines by doing critical thinking seminars and debunking of psychic phenomena in LOCAL languages....some sort of South Asian James Randi if you will...and if we get killed in the process by superstitious goons, then no problem as it would be a life well lived ...I can afford to die post 60-65 violently as I would have achieved most of my professional life goals by then

 

[Unknown-V]

Only south India eats rice, North India doesn't. So India has to balance its requirements

Don't lie. I know that rice is staple food of Pubjab & Kashmir cuisine.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punjabi_cuisine

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuisine_of_Kashmir

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

people in the North even if they do eat rice, donot eat it twice a day...only Lunch is reserved for rice