Indians knew about gravity before Newton: Isro ex-chief

[scholseys]

Fundamentalist Indian scientists..

 

[Norwegian]

The comments by Mr Nair came in the backdrop of many BJP leaders talking about ancient Indian scriptures having scientific information including on plastic surgery as well as aero-dynamics.

Sure, only these religious scriptures have no clue how to translate this scientific information in Western mathematical formulas

Manjramkar commented, "Very few of us know that the speed of light was known to Indians in the Vedic period. A shloka says that the speed of light is 2202 yojana per half nimesha. A yojana is a unit of distance which is equal to 9.06 miles and half a nimesha is one tenth of a second. The figure is very close to the modern measurement of speed of light."

LOLZ If so, how come they "discovered" it? I mean what kind of scientific instruments were used to measure the speed of light?

Have no doubt that there were civilisations before us, which were far more developed, but to myopic and ignorant ppl, such things are a part of "mythology".

Yeah sure, only they didn't have modern toilets but used jharri instead

From the article "Even for Charndrayaan the equation from Arya Bhatta was used, sums up it well"

Hahaha! You mean that equation was written inside the scripture? If it was, it would have been translated BEFORE Newton's discovery and not after like Muslims say everything is written in the Koran but only translated after Western Science discovers it first

India had the best Sanskrit technology, unfortunately their ancestors didn't teach them how a toilet works.

No, they used Supreme Jharris for this

Is there a complicated technology for "how toilet works'?

Yes, its called modern sanitation.

hahaha do you know Quran says Earth is flat like a carpet what is your take on this.

No, it doesn't say anything scientific, only some village Mullah's interpret it as such

Fundamentalist Indian scientists..

Sounds like no different than fundamentalist Muslim scientists

 

[A1Kaid]

Indian jokers trying to re-write history once again.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Indians were building with mud , how can they know about Gravity

 

[farhan_9909]

i find this very funny,they are again after our history

 

[Armstrong]

doesn't matter even if true. Newton is the man.

 

[dray]

LOLZ If so, how come they "discovered" it? I mean what kind of scientific instruments were used to measure the speed of light?

I have no idea about how did they discover it, or many other things mentioned below. But they seemed to have done it long back.

Prof. Dr. S. Balachandra Rao, M.Sc. Ph.D. (Mathematics)
Modern scientists use certain number of corrections to predict positions of the planets, but the Astronomical text such as Surya Siddhanta and Siddhanta Siromani give formulas which utilize much lesser number of corrections but give more accurate positions.

Marquis Pierre Simon de Laplace ( 1749-1827) French mathematician, philosopher, and astronomer, a contemporary of Napoleon. Laplace is best known for his nebular hypothesis of the origin of the solar system

"Nevertheless the ancient reputation of the Indians does not permit us to doubt that they have always cultivated astronomy, and the remarkable exactness of the mean motions which they assign to the Sun and the Moon necessarily required very ancient observation." .

General Joseph Davey Cunningham (1812-1851) author.

"Mathematical science was so perfect and astronomical observations so complete that the paths of the sun and the moon were accurately measured.

Guy Sorman, visiting scholar at Hoover Institution at Stanford and the leader of new liberalism in France:

“Temporal notions in Europe were overturned by an India rooted in eternity. The Bible had been the yardstick for measuring time, but the infinitely vast time cycles of India suggested that the world was much older than anything the Bible spoke of. It seem as if the Indian mind was better prepared for the astrophysics."

Sylvain Bailly 18th century French astronomer and politician member of the French Academy and the Academy of Sciences
"The motion of the stars calculated by the Hindus before some 4500 years vary not even a single minute from the tables of Cassine and Meyer. The Indian tables give the same annual variation of the moon as the discovered by Tycho Brahe - a variation unknown to the school of Alexandria and also to the Arabs who followed the calculations of the school...

"The Hindu systems of astronomy are by far the oldest and that from which the Egyptians, Greek, Romans and - even the Jews derived their knowledge from."

Carl Sagan- the distinguished Cornell University astronomer and Pulitzer Prize-winning author.

Here is a great world culture which has always talked about billions of years.

“Wonderful aspect of Hindu cosmology which first of all gives a time-scale for the Earth and the universe -- a time-scale which is consonant with that of modern scientific cosmology. We know that the Earth is about 4.6 billion years old, and the cosmos,or at least its present incarnation, is something like 10 or 20 billion years old. The Hindu tradition has a day and night of Brahma in this range, somewhere in the region of 8.4 billion years.”

“Finally, the many billion year time-scale of Hindu cosmology is not the entire history of the universe, but just the day and night of Brahma, and there is the idea of an infinite cycle of births and deaths and an infinite number of universes, each with its own gods.”

“It is the only religion in which the time scales correspond, no doubt, by accident, to those of modern scientific cosmology. Its cycles run from our ordinary day and night to a day and night of Brahma, 8.64 billion years long. Longer than the age of the Earth or the Sun and about half the time since the Big Bang. And there are much longer time scales still."

“Either CS [coordinate system] could be used with equal justification. The two sentences: “the sun is at rest and the Earth moves,” or “the sun moves and the Earth is at rest,” would simply mean two different conventions concerning two different CS [coordinate systems].”
—Albert Einstein

Mountstuart Elphinstone (1779 - 1859) wrote:

"Proofs of very extraordinary proficiency in their astronomical writings are found.“

The Hindu astronomy not only establishes the high proficiency of our ancestors in this department of knowledge and exacts admiration and applause: it does something more. It proves the great antiquity of the Sanskrit literature and the high literary culture of the Hindus.

"Monsieur Bailly, the celebrated author of the History of Astronomy, inferred from certain astronomical tables of the Hindus, not only advanced progress of the science, but a date so ancient as to be entirely inconsistent with the chronology of the

Hebrew scriptures. His argument was labored with the utmost diligence and was received with unbounded applause. All concurred at the time with the wonderful learning, wonderful civilization and wonderful institutions of the Hindus!"

Giovanni Domenico Cassini ( 1625–1712) was an Italian-French astronomer, engineer, and astrologer. Cassini, Bailly, Le Gentil and Playfair maintain, "that there are Hindu observations extant which must have been made more than three thousand years before Christ, and which evince even then a very high degree of astronomical science."

Count Magnus Fredrik Ferdinand Bjornstjerna (1779-1847)

"According to the astronomical calculations of the Hindus, the present period of the world, Kaliyuga commenced 3,102 years before the birth of Christ, on the 20th of February, at 2 hours 27 minutes and 30 seconds, the time being thus calculated of the planets that took place, and their tables show this conjunction. Bailly states that Jupiter and Mercury were then in the same degree of the ecliptic, Mars at a distance of only eight, and Saturn of seven degrees; whence it follows, that at the point of time given by the Brahmins as the commencement of Kaliyug, the four planets above-mentioned must have been successively concealed by the rays of the sun (first Saturn, then Mars, afterwards Jupiter and lastly Mercury)....The calculation of the Brahmins is so exactly confirmed by or own astronomical tables, that nothing but an actual observation could have given so correspondent a result."

"He (Bailly) further informs us that Laubere, who was sent by Louis XIV as ambassador to the King of Siam, brought home, in the year 1687, astronomical tables of solar eclipses and that other similar tables were sent to Euorpe by Patouillet (a missionary in the Carnatic - India), and by Gentil, which later were obtained from the Brahmins in Tirvalore, and that they all perfectly agree in their calcuations although received from different persons, at different times, and from places in India remote from each other.
The motion calculated by the Brahmins during the long space of 4,385 years (the period eclipsed between these calculations and Bailly's), varies not a single minute from the tables of Cassini and Meyer; and as the tables brought to Europe by Laubere in 1687, under Louis XIV, are older than those of Cassini and Meyer, the accordance between them must be the result of mutual and exact astronomical observations." Then again, "Indian tables give the same annual variation of the moon as that discovered by Tycho Brahe, a variation unknown to the school of Alexandria, and also to the Arabs, who followed the calculation of this school.“

"These facts," says the erudite Count, "sufficiently show the great antiquity and distinguished station of astronomical science among the Hindus of past ages." The Count then asks "if it be true that the Hindus more than 3,000 BC., according to Bailly's calculation, had attained so high a degree of astronomical and geometrical learning, how many centuries earlier must the commencement of their culture have been, since the human mind advances only step by step on the path of science.“

Professor Arthur Holmes (1895-1965) geologist, professor at the University of Durham.

"Long before it became a scientific aspiration to estimate the age of the earth, many elaborate systems of the world chronology had been devised by the sages of antiquity. The most remarkable of these occult time-scales is that of the ancient Hindus, whose astonishing concept of the Earth's duration has been traced back to Manusmriti, a sacred book.“

"Interestingly, modern science has estimated that the age of the earth is about 4 billion years. Scholars feel it is uncanny that the Vedic Aryans could have conceived of such a vast span of time over 3,500 years ago that would be similar to the same figure estimated by science today."

Louis Francois Jacolliot (1837-1890), who worked in French India as a government official and President of the Court in Chandranagar. Translator of numerous Vedic hymns, the Manusmriti, and the Tamil work, Kural.

"The Hindu revelation, which proclaims the slow and gradual formation of worlds, is of all revelations the only one whose ideas are in complete harmony with modern science. "

" Besides the discoverers of geometry and algebra, the constructors of human speech, the parents of philosophy, the primal expounders of religion, the adepts in psychological and physical science, how even the greatest of our biological and theologians seem dwarfed!

Views of renowned scholars on Indian(Hindu) culture

 

[Dem!god]

lol... pakistanis suffering from identity crisis again...
can't digest the truth..

What mystery they did not decode? of how those were made? I'll suggest you to stop watching 'Ancient Aliens' and start reading scholarly articles published on the pyramids or on those alleged super duper civilisations. Their is no mystery on how the pyramids were made, and the only reason architects and engineers do not want to attempt them erecting today is because they (the pyramids) are worthless as buildings to live or store anything.

Regarding the 'secret formula of the non rusting compound used in a pillar'...

Only metals rust, for they oxidize due to their reaction with the oxygen in the atmosphere. As far as the secret recipe of the material used is concerned, even a degree college lab can decode elements by employing various simple tests. The percentage of individual elements can also be found using a combination of tests. After all whatever elements used were present on the earth hence present on the periodic table.

Please understand that a technology never goes extinct but either gets developed into a better technology or replaced by the better one.

please stop ur idiotic rants...

 

[Srinivas]

Hahaha! You mean that equation was written inside the scripture? If it was, it would have been translated BEFORE Newton's discovery and not after like Muslims say everything is written in the Koran but only translated after Western Science discovers it first

Yes would have been translated but not done.

There is no comparison between The Vedas and Qur'an. Both are completely different when viewed in the context of science.

Vedas consist of "Aranyaka" which is composed of spiritual observations about humans,universe and other elements in Universe. There is thing called first person observation, third person observation which when done lot of facts can be known, as per Vedas and Upanishads.


Bhaskaracharya's Law of Gravity

Did you know that the famous Hindu astronomer, Bhaskaracharya in his Surya Siddhanta wrote:

"Objects fall on the earth due to a force of attraction by the earth. Therefore, the earth, planets, constellations, moon and sun are held in orbit due to this attraction."

It was not until 1687, 1200 years later did Issac Newton "rediscover" the Law of Gravity.

In Surya Siddhanta, dated 400-500 AD, the ancient Hindu astronomer Bhaskaracharya states,

"Objects fall on the earth due to a force of attraction by the earth. Therefore, the earth, planets, constellations, moon, and sun are held in orbit due to this force."

Approximately 1200 years later (1687 AD), Sir Isaac Newton rediscovered this phenomenon and called it the Law of Gravity.

Bhaskaracharya's Law of Gravity - वेद Veda

There are enough proofs today when one observes the monks how they meditate with out food and water for lengthier times?, how they go into "samadhi" ? and other things they do like generating heat from their own bodies in Himalayas to make their bodies comfortable while meditating.


One more link about Surya Siddantha
Newton’s Law, 1200 Years Before Newton | Mysteries Explored

 

[Norwegian]

"Objects fall on the earth due to a force of attraction by the earth. Therefore, the earth, planets, constellations, moon and sun are held in orbit due to this attraction."

Observation of nature is one thing, putting the observed into a scientific law is entirely different. Many thinkers, philosophers of the past have observed including many during the Islamic Golden Age but none put their observations into scientific laws until the age of Newton

 

[Srinivas]

Observation of nature is one thing, putting the observed into a scientific law is entirely different. Many thinkers, philosophers of the past have observed including many during the Islamic Golden Age but none put their observations into scientific laws until the age of Newton

Vedas can be used as guidance and for the purpose of clues, this is what West are doing.

Muslims doing discoveries and inventions has nothing to do with Qur'an but with modern day science but when it comes to Vedas, the Rishis did the observation through yoga, meditation etc..etc....
This is the main difference, Vedas are some kind of spiritual science and the Rishis are some sporitual scientists exploring this world and everything created by Brahmaan.

 

[dray]

Please understand that a technology never goes extinct but either gets developed into a better technology or replaced by the better one.

Everything can go extinct in a large scale catastrophic event, we know too little to pass any final judgement.

Even a 3rd world war can destroy much of the scientific knowledge that we have acquired if it goes nuclear.

 

[metronome]

saaley Pakistani kyu mazak udane me lagey hai ? bc ancient India is your heritage too.. Radcliffe aur angrez came much later

like it or not.. our glorious dharmic stealth fighters, vedic nukes, time traveling plastic surgeons are all shared heritage

 

[Levina]

What mystery they did not decode? of how those were made? I'll suggest you to stop watching 'Ancient Aliens' and start reading scholarly articles published on the pyramids or on those alleged super duper civilisations. Their is no mystery on how the pyramids were made, and the only reason architects and engineers do not want to attempt them erecting today is because they (the pyramids) are worthless as buildings to live or store anything.

Sire
Archaeologists 've only put forward a few hypothesis and also a few techniques which might 've been employed to construct the pyramids. There 're too many ifs and buts there.

Regarding the 'secret formula of the non rusting compound used in a pillar'...

Only metals rust, for they oxidize due to their reaction with the oxygen in the atmosphere. As far as the secret recipe of the material used is concerned, even a degree college lab can decode elements by employing various simple tests. The percentage of individual elements can also be found using a combination of tests. After all whatever elements used were present on the earth hence present on the periodic table.

If it was so easy then why could they not find the metals used in Qutab pillar??

Please understand that a technology never goes extinct but either gets developed into a better technology or replaced by the better one.

We're not talking about laws of thermodynamics or conservation of energy, there 're many technologies from the past which 've not been passed on like the Antikythera Mechanism.

Far more developed than us? Really? Did they have computers, electricity grids, air conditioning, aircrafts, antibiotics, just to name a few things? If not, by what yardstick were they more advanced than our present civilization, in science and technology?

Nobody is making fun of ancient scientists - we are only making fun of people who make ridiculous claims about the past.
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1) This statement was NOT made by a dilettante or uneducated religious zealot, but by an ex ISRO chief. He definitely knows a lot more than you and I do. Agree?
2) The issue with ancient technologies was that only few had access to it. Remember methods of Surgery by Sushrutha? Or let me tell you about "puma punku", those structures 're older than pyramids. The massive stones used in the construction bear no chisel marks and were finely cut to interlock with the others. A lot of the stones were cut so precisely that the builders clearly had an extremely sophisticated knowledge of stone-cutting, engineering and geometry. Now that was thousands of years ago.

Yeah sure, only they didn't have modern toilets but used jharri instead

Yeah..yeah you think all those kings and emperors used to visit the jharris everyday???
Back then we didn't have democracies and not everyone had knowledge of technologies used.

 

[Norwegian]

Yeah..yeah you think all those kings and emperors used to visit the jharris everyday???

Well, they had their gardens for dumping shit