Indians in outer space: Pakistan perspective

[Victory]

piece of shit article

 

[acetophenol]

Sir: On July 1, 2013, the Indian Regional Navigational Satellite System (IRNSS) received another boost by the launch of a geostationary satellite. Though the rocket has a presumable reach of 6,000 km, this apparently peaceful advancement in space has military potential. For instance, it is a step towards India’s gradually building an anti-ballistic missile defence shield and enhancement of its reconnaissance potential. One wonders if this potential militarisation of space will ultimately lead to weaponisation and compel New Delhi’s current and future adversaries to respond in letter and spirit. These satellites carry peaceful payloads but can also carry weapons of mass destruction. For instance, satellite delivery systems help place in outer space navigation solutions like the American Global Positioning System, Russian Glonass and Chinese Beidou. Likewise, if a nuclear weapon warhead is placed on the rocket, it can obliterate everything. The early warning function of these so-called peaceful satellites facilitate a ballistic missile defence shield and thus increase the intercept capabilities in the boost or mid-course phase of a ballistic missile. This is apparently an excellent defensive use. However, it may give a false sense of security to India and may even encourage it to launch a pre-emptive strike against its adversary. In the case of India and Pakistan, the chances of things getting messy are higher than other adversaries who get more reaction time due to geographical distances. India will achieve almost nothing by such a satellite endeavour with respect to missile defence due to geographical contiguity with Pakistan. If India develops a military space capability, it will greatly affect the nuclear deterrence with Pakistan. India may just compel Pakistan to take further initiatives in its nuclear and military posture. Pakistan’s missile and space programme is not ambitious at the moment.
History shows that India has always provoked Pakistan to reluctantly respond to its ‘peaceful’ initiatives. If New Delhi makes long range delivery systems like Agni VI, other states, and even the US, will start factoring it in their threat calculus. At the moment, Europe and the US are lulled by their economic cooperation with India. Pakistan must multiply its efforts to develop suitable defensive means for penetrating any such Indian endeavours. These may vary from the use of missiles, aircraft and to very modest conventional means of defeating the Indian defensive shield. Pakistan must bolster its second strike capability through nuclear submarines. Submarine launched cruise missiles will be very difficult for satellites to intercept because it is very difficult to track and hunt a submarine. Likewise, the multiple independently targetable re-entry vehicle (MIRV) is also a good defensive option to defeat Indian space-based military potential. The geo stationary early warning satellites theoretically cannot distinguish between ‘warheads’ and ‘decoys’ from MIRV missiles. Given the economic challenges, Pakistan may find it difficult to develop satellite-based early warning capability. The Space and Upper Atmosphere Research Commission (SUPARCO) may ultimately have to keep all its options open to match Indian capabilities. For instance, an anti-satellite weapons programme may become necessary if India weaponises outer space. That is why negotiating a multilateral and non-discriminatory outer-space treaty is so essential. One can hope that the Indian space programme remains peaceful.

HASAN EHTISHAM

Why is some Pakistanis always finding a military angle in everything?Has it occurred to anyone that both India and Pakistan started at the same place and same time and now we are way ahead of you in almost every field?

 

[INDIC]

This person has no Idea what he is talking. Useless thread. It is better for him to read history and arts and write an artcile or letter on it.

BS thread.

The article has great potential to earn a lot from Pakistani readers.

 

[jamahir]

i laughed when i saw the thread title... "indians in outer space"... seems like the name of a comedy film.

india is basically a minor satellite launcher. if some satellite weighs more than one ton, then india asks france to launch this heavy satellite through the french ariane rocket. even in satellite design, indian space "research" organization takes help of israel... the risat project for example.

the gslv project is a failure. for years, they spoke of "state of the art cryogenic technology". now, they are silently talking about "semi-cryogenics", essentially after looking at the kerosene-lox engines used in the successful falcon rockets of the private company, spacex, of the inspiration for iron man films, elon musk.

so the "indians" in space will at max be silly satellites, painted with "made in india".

sorry. bitter truth.

 

[Bang Galore]

Discuss the message not the messenger.

Err....what message?

 

[acetophenol]

i laughed when i saw the thread title... "indians in outer space"... seems like the name of a comedy film.

india is basically a minor satellite launcher. if some satellite weighs more than one ton, then india asks france to launch this heavy satellite through the french ariane rocket. even in satellite design, indian space "research" organization takes help of israel... the risat project for example.

the gslv project is a failure. for years, they spoke of "state of the art cryogenic technology". now, they are silently talking about "semi-cryogenics", essentially after looking at the kerosene-lox engines used in the successful falcon rockets of the private company, spacex, of the inspiration for iron man films, elon musk.

so the "indians" in space will at max be silly satellites, painted with "made in india".

sorry. bitter truth.

Yeah,Instead of talking proudly about our space programs,evil yindoo Indians must look for some foreign aides to get itself some "metro buses"

 

[gslv mk3]

india is basically a minor satellite launcher

if some satellite weighs more than one ton, then india asks france to launch this heavy satellite through the french ariane rocket.

We can launch a 5 tonne LEO sat Mr Genius.And with our new LVM three,it would be 10 tonnes.

even in satellite design, indian space "research" organization takes help of israel.

Best BS I'have ever heard on this forum. .And how many satellites have israel developed ?

the risat project for example.

Ever heard of RISAT 1 beta..??

the gslv project is a failure. for years, they spoke of "state of the art cryogenic technology"

Oh really ? FYI Cryogenic technology is already developed

now, they are silently talking about "semi-cryogenics", essentially after looking at the kerosene-lox engines used in the successful falcon rockets

Doesnt even know advantages of Semi Cryogenic engines..and think that they were developed by space X..


STFU false flag...

 

[StormShadow]

Why is it always like whatever India does, it's a threat to pakistan and pakistan should counter it in every possible way. Whatever pakistan does is a counter to India. India tests nuke, pak "counters" by testing nuke. India introduces cold start, pak "counters"by testing nasr. Isnt there anything pak can do without "countering" India?

 

[gslv mk3]

For False Flag troll @jamahir

And Soon..

 

[illusion8]

Pakistani's might feel like the special needs kid that's being ignored in India's calculus at the moment - hence all the statements about kashmir and what not to remain relevant.

Too bad that the present GOI is busy elsewhere. May be when Modi has a free day on his hands.

 

[Ayush]

We will keep on developing,Pakistan will keep on countering.
Goes on..................

 

[Daedalus]

The Space and Upper Atmosphere Research Commission (SUPARCO) may ultimately have to keep all its options open to match Indian capabilities.

How? by eating grass again.

 

[jamahir]

We can launch a 5 tonne LEO sat Mr Genius.And with our new LVM three,it would be 10 tonnes.

okay. go convince the "mars one" project to stop thinking about the existing 14-ton-to-low-earth-orbit reusablility-test-rocket spacex falcon v1.1, carrying the human-capable powered-landing dragon v2 space capsule which has delivered luggage to the international space station, thrice...

and convince them to start thinking about the world's second ugliest rocket ( after nasa space shuttle ) called "gslv mark-whatever" which has once exploded on launch, and which cannot even carry two tons, maybe carry five tons in the next 10 years if there is no world war, and which rocket in question uses some stupid concept called "cryogenic technology" when others are thinking about methane propellents.

and convince them that the sooper dooper isro rockets are totally "indigenous", without any german wiring or german/american microprocessors or without...

and then come back to pdf.

.And how many satellites have israel developed ?

who cares, except isro and fan boys??

Ever heard of RISAT 1 beta..??

satellites are unnecessary, 99 percent of the times. so i don't care for risat 49 zeta.

Oh really ? FYI Cryogenic technology is already developed

please see above.

Doesnt even know advantages of Semi Cryogenic engines..and think that they were developed by space X..

what are you talking about??

STFU false flag...

wonderful. so anyone who disagrees with patriotic indians delriously screaming "jai bharat mata ki..." is a false flag. go tell the socialist groups in india. go tell the ladies honor-killed. go tell the mao-ists. go tell the people protesting the nuclear power plant in tamil nadu. go tell the parents of four year old children ripped apart by gangs of 10 dogs. go tell...

i thought i join pdf and not speak like this. but...

what is your age, by the way??

 

[acid rain]

i laughed when i saw the thread title... "indians in outer space"... seems like the name of a comedy film.

india is basically a minor satellite launcher. if some satellite weighs more than one ton, then india asks france to launch this heavy satellite through the french ariane rocket. even in satellite design, indian space "research" organization takes help of israel... the risat project for example.

the gslv project is a failure. for years, they spoke of "state of the art cryogenic technology". now, they are silently talking about "semi-cryogenics", essentially after looking at the kerosene-lox engines used in the successful falcon rockets of the private company, spacex, of the inspiration for iron man films, elon musk.

so the "indians" in space will at max be silly satellites, painted with "made in india".

sorry. bitter truth.

So where are you from again??

Libya?.....where the F is that?.

 

[Screambowl]

now wait for chinese to compare themselves with India on invitation of Pakistani members. That what happens on PDF