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Indian Official: Diplomat's Arrest in NYC Barbaric - ABC News

The arrest and strip search of an Indian diplomat in New York City escalated into a major diplomatic furor Tuesday as India's national security adviser called the woman's treatment "despicable and barbaric."
Devyani Khobragade, India's deputy consul general in New York, is accused of submitting false documents to obtain a work visa for her Manhattan housekeeper. Indian officials said she was arrested and handcuffed Thursday as she dropped off her daughter at school, and was kept in a cell with drug addicts before posting $250,000 bail.

In a statement, the U.S. Marshals Service confirmed that Khobragade was subjected to the same booking procedures as other prisoners, including being strip searched — viewed in India as the most disturbing part of the arrest — and locked up with other female defendants.

Khobragade "was placed in the available and appropriate cell," the statement said. "Absent a special risk or separation order, prisoners are typically placed in general population," the statement said.

Earlier Tuesday, her U.S. attorney said he didn't know if she was strip-searched. Federal authorities said they were looking into the arrest.

"We understand that this is a sensitive issue for many in India," said Marie Harf, State Department deputy spokeswoman. "Accordingly, we are looking into the intake procedures surrounding this arrest to ensure that all appropriate procedures were followed and every opportunity for courtesy was extended."

Harf said that federal authorities would work on the issue with India "in the spirit of partnership and cooperation that marks our broad bilateral relationship."

"We certainly don't want this to affect the relationship," she said.

India was ready to retaliate against American diplomats in India by threatening to downgrade privileges and demanding information about how much they pay their Indian household staff, according to the Press Trust of India news agency.

Police also removed the traffic barricades near the U.S. Embassy in New Delhi, a demand by the Indian government in retaliation for Khobragade's treatment, PTI reported. The barriers were a safety measure.

"We got orders to remove the concrete barriers," said Amardeep Sehgal, station house officer of the Chanakyapuri police station, the one nearest the embassy. "They were obstructing traffic on the road." He refused to say who had given the orders.

Calls to the U.S. Embassy were not immediately returned Tuesday.

But Harf said the U.S. had made clear to the India government that it needs to uphold its obligations under the Vienna Conventions on diplomatic and consular relations. She said the U.S. takes the safety and security of its diplomats very seriously.

National Security Adviser Shivshankar Menon slammed Khobragade's treatment in New York.

"It is despicable and barbaric," he said.

Prosecutors in New York say Khobragade, 39, claimed she paid her Indian maid $4,500 per month but actually paid her less than the U.S. minimum wage. In order for diplomats and consular officers to get a visa for their personal employees, known as an A-3 visa, they must show proof that the applicant will receive a fair wage, comparable to employment in the U.S., U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara said in a statement last week.

Federal prosecutors say Khobragade told the housekeeper she would be paid 30,000 rupees per month - about $573, or $3.31 per hour. The woman worked for the family from about November 2012 through June 2013, and said she worked far more than 40 hours per week and was paid even less than 30,000 rupees, prosecutors said.
Khobragade has pleaded not guilty and plans to challenge the arrest on grounds of diplomatic immunity, her lawyer said last week.

If convicted, Khobragade faces a maximum sentence of 10 years for visa fraud and five years for making a false declaration. She was arrested outside of her daughter's Manhattan school.

"We are distressed at the treatment that Dr. Khobragade has received at the hands of U.S. authorities," said her lawyer, Daniel Arshack. He said she should have diplomatic immunity.

Her case quickly became a major story in India, with politicians urging diplomatic retaliation and TV news channels showing the woman in a series of smiling family photos.

That reaction may look outsized in the United States, but the case touches on a string of issues that strike deeply in India, where the fear of public humiliation resonates strongly and heavy-handed treatment by the police is normally reserved for the poor. For an educated, middle-class woman to face public arrest and a strip search is almost unimaginable, except in the most brutal crimes.

Far less serious protocol complaints have become big issues in the past. Standard security checks in the U.S. regularly are front-page news here when they involve visiting Indian dignitaries, who are largely exempt from friskings while at home.

India's former speaker of Parliament, Somnath Chatterjee, once refused to attend an international meeting in Australia when he wasn't given a guarantee that he would not have to pass through security. Chatterjee said even the possibility of a security screening was "an affront to India."

The treatment and pay of household staff, meanwhile, is largely seen as a family issue, off-limits to the law.

The fallout from the arrest was growing. On Tuesday, Indian political leaders from both the ruling party and the opposition refused to meet with the U.S. congressional delegation in New Delhi. The Indian government said it was "shocked and appalled at the manner in which the diplomat had been humiliated" in the U.S.

Indian Foreign Secretary Sujata Singh summoned U.S. Ambassador Nancy Powell to register a complaint.

Harf said as India's deputy consul general, Khobragade does not have full diplomatic immunity, but rather consular immunity from the jurisdiction of U.S. courts only with respect to acts performed in the exercise of consular functions. She said the State Department had in September notified India in writing of the allegations against Khobragade.

Harf said the department's diplomatic security team followed standard procedures during the arrest. After her arrest, Khobragade was handed over to U.S. marshals for intake and processing, and Harf said she could not comment on Khobragade's treatment at that point, or answer the allegations she was strip-searched. Harf said, however, the State Department was looking into those allegations.

Khobragade's father, Uttam Khobragade, told the TimesNow TV news channel on Tuesday that his daughter's treatment was "absolutely obnoxious."

"As a father I feel hurt, our entire family is traumatized," he said.

Indian External Affairs Minister Salman Khurshid said there were "larger issues" involved in the case, but did not elaborate.

"We will deal with them in good time," he said.

I saw this comment. So she actually do not have diplomatic immunity, just consulate immunity

She wasn't a diplomat -- she was a "deputy consul general" at a consulate. And yes, there is a difference. So "what is the use of having a (sic) diplomatic immunity?" is an irrelevant question. SHE DIDN'T HAVE IT BECAUSE SHE WASN'T A DIPLOMAT.


Consular immunity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
So the women was assistance to the Indian diplomat but demand diplomat immunity when the assistance violate US criminal law?




Indian Official: Diplomat's Arrest in NYC Barbaric - ABC News

The arrest and strip search of an Indian diplomat in New York City escalated into a major diplomatic furor Tuesday as India's national security adviser called the woman's treatment "despicable and barbaric."
Devyani Khobragade, India's deputy consul general in New York, is accused of submitting false documents to obtain a work visa for her Manhattan housekeeper. Indian officials said she was arrested and handcuffed Thursday as she dropped off her daughter at school, and was kept in a cell with drug addicts before posting $250,000 bail.

In a statement, the U.S. Marshals Service confirmed that Khobragade was subjected to the same booking procedures as other prisoners, including being strip searched — viewed in India as the most disturbing part of the arrest — and locked up with other female defendants.

Khobragade "was placed in the available and appropriate cell," the statement said. "Absent a special risk or separation order, prisoners are typically placed in general population," the statement said.

Earlier Tuesday, her U.S. attorney said he didn't know if she was strip-searched. Federal authorities said they were looking into the arrest.

"We understand that this is a sensitive issue for many in India," said Marie Harf, State Department deputy spokeswoman. "Accordingly, we are looking into the intake procedures surrounding this arrest to ensure that all appropriate procedures were followed and every opportunity for courtesy was extended."

Harf said that federal authorities would work on the issue with India "in the spirit of partnership and cooperation that marks our broad bilateral relationship."

"We certainly don't want this to affect the relationship," she said.

India was ready to retaliate against American diplomats in India by threatening to downgrade privileges and demanding information about how much they pay their Indian household staff, according to the Press Trust of India news agency.

Police also removed the traffic barricades near the U.S. Embassy in New Delhi, a demand by the Indian government in retaliation for Khobragade's treatment, PTI reported. The barriers were a safety measure.

"We got orders to remove the concrete barriers," said Amardeep Sehgal, station house officer of the Chanakyapuri police station, the one nearest the embassy. "They were obstructing traffic on the road." He refused to say who had given the orders.

Calls to the U.S. Embassy were not immediately returned Tuesday.

But Harf said the U.S. had made clear to the India government that it needs to uphold its obligations under the Vienna Conventions on diplomatic and consular relations. She said the U.S. takes the safety and security of its diplomats very seriously.

National Security Adviser Shivshankar Menon slammed Khobragade's treatment in New York.

"It is despicable and barbaric," he said.

Prosecutors in New York say Khobragade, 39, claimed she paid her Indian maid $4,500 per month but actually paid her less than the U.S. minimum wage. In order for diplomats and consular officers to get a visa for their personal employees, known as an A-3 visa, they must show proof that the applicant will receive a fair wage, comparable to employment in the U.S., U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara said in a statement last week.

Federal prosecutors say Khobragade told the housekeeper she would be paid 30,000 rupees per month - about $573, or $3.31 per hour. The woman worked for the family from about November 2012 through June 2013, and said she worked far more than 40 hours per week and was paid even less than 30,000 rupees, prosecutors said.
Khobragade has pleaded not guilty and plans to challenge the arrest on grounds of diplomatic immunity, her lawyer said last week.

If convicted, Khobragade faces a maximum sentence of 10 years for visa fraud and five years for making a false declaration. She was arrested outside of her daughter's Manhattan school.

"We are distressed at the treatment that Dr. Khobragade has received at the hands of U.S. authorities," said her lawyer, Daniel Arshack. He said she should have diplomatic immunity.

Her case quickly became a major story in India, with politicians urging diplomatic retaliation and TV news channels showing the woman in a series of smiling family photos.

That reaction may look outsized in the United States, but the case touches on a string of issues that strike deeply in India, where the fear of public humiliation resonates strongly and heavy-handed treatment by the police is normally reserved for the poor. For an educated, middle-class woman to face public arrest and a strip search is almost unimaginable, except in the most brutal crimes.

Far less serious protocol complaints have become big issues in the past. Standard security checks in the U.S. regularly are front-page news here when they involve visiting Indian dignitaries, who are largely exempt from friskings while at home.

India's former speaker of Parliament, Somnath Chatterjee, once refused to attend an international meeting in Australia when he wasn't given a guarantee that he would not have to pass through security. Chatterjee said even the possibility of a security screening was "an affront to India."

The treatment and pay of household staff, meanwhile, is largely seen as a family issue, off-limits to the law.

The fallout from the arrest was growing. On Tuesday, Indian political leaders from both the ruling party and the opposition refused to meet with the U.S. congressional delegation in New Delhi. The Indian government said it was "shocked and appalled at the manner in which the diplomat had been humiliated" in the U.S.

Indian Foreign Secretary Sujata Singh summoned U.S. Ambassador Nancy Powell to register a complaint.

Harf said as India's deputy consul general, Khobragade does not have full diplomatic immunity, but rather consular immunity from the jurisdiction of U.S. courts only with respect to acts performed in the exercise of consular functions. She said the State Department had in September notified India in writing of the allegations against Khobragade.

Harf said the department's diplomatic security team followed standard procedures during the arrest. After her arrest, Khobragade was handed over to U.S. marshals for intake and processing, and Harf said she could not comment on Khobragade's treatment at that point, or answer the allegations she was strip-searched. Harf said, however, the State Department was looking into those allegations.

Khobragade's father, Uttam Khobragade, told the TimesNow TV news channel on Tuesday that his daughter's treatment was "absolutely obnoxious."

"As a father I feel hurt, our entire family is traumatized," he said.

Indian External Affairs Minister Salman Khurshid said there were "larger issues" involved in the case, but did not elaborate.

"We will deal with them in good time," he said.

I saw this comment. So she actually do not have diplomatic immunity, just consulate immunity

She wasn't a diplomat -- she was a "deputy consul general" at a consulate. And yes, there is a difference. So "what is the use of having a (sic) diplomatic immunity?" is an irrelevant question. SHE DIDN'T HAVE IT BECAUSE SHE WASN'T A DIPLOMAT.


Consular immunity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
So the women was assistance to the Indian diplomat but demand diplomat immunity when the assistance violate US criminal law?

Its the consulate worker that violated the US law. The assistance was actually worked as a slave. Now, her family is being punished back in India.
 
Its the consulate worker that violated the US law. The assistance was actually worked as a slave. Now, her family is being punished back in India.



India government punish the victim and protect a criminal to save face? NO justice for the low caste in the land of India.
 
India government punish the victim and protect a criminal to save face? NO justice for the low caste in the land of India.

Indian democracy is for the benefit for the wealth. As there is not enough "educated" voter out there to make democracy work in India. That is why its a relatively failed state, or a semi-failed state. Its definitely THE failed state for countries that has large population.
 
Indian democracy is for the benefit for the wealth. As there is not enough "educated" voter out there to make democracy work in India. That is why its a relatively failed state, or a semi-failed state. Its definitely THE failed state for countries that has large population.





Chaotic scenario when a mass of uneducated have their opinion heard for the purpose of transforming democracy, lack of knowledge result in pseudo-democracy and turn into a democrazy state of India.

Chaotic scenario when a mass of uneducated have their opinion heard for the purpose of transforming democracy, lack of knowledge result in pseudo-democracy and turn into a democrazy state of India.


Full blow wack out state of Indian politic.
 
If we were to listen to the regular Indian cheerleading crowd, one would assume the United States has granted India the SuperPower Jn. status. Then this sort of thing happens every now and then to remind the Indians that they're not cheerleading hard enough.
 
Its the consulate worker that violated the US law. The assistance was actually worked as a slave. Now, her family is being punished back in India.

Mr. faithfulguy n Expert on Indian Matters... proves again that his moronic attitude is second to none !

#1. That "slave" was paid "$4500" Per Month in wages ! ( Plus The Health Insurance , the Travelling Allowance etc , which itself amounts to over $6500 Per Month ! )

#2. No her family was not Pushed back to India, infact the maid is declared fugitive in India after her visa was cancelled SIX MONTHS BACK !
 
Lot of butt-hurts are showing some serious abdominal colic over the fact that the country they hate has shown some guts on diplomatic level which they wish their country has done too on issues concerning them with the US in pasT.

Its a serious psychological issue.But its funnier to watch them making excuses and explaining it.
 
Mr. faithfulguy n Expert on Indian Matters... proves again that his moronic attitude is second to none !

#1. That "slave" was paid "$4500" Per Month in wages ! ( Plus The Health Insurance , the Travelling Allowance etc , which itself amounts to over $6500 Per Month ! )

#2. No her family was not Pushed back to India, infact the maid is declared fugitive in India after her visa was cancelled SIX MONTHS BACK !

If its $4500 per month, than how is that breaking US law. Its clearly that you are making up this number. The cops don't just arrest people without evidence. Its clear that this slave driver created this international incident.
 
This sums up American view from a comment for the article that I posted to open this thread.


"We will deal with them in good time," - is that a threat? Apparently it is. A diplomat cheats the law in host country and caught. Her government is now threatening and trying to blackmail the host country rather than being ashamed for the disgrace that the diplomat brought to her country. Indians don't really know what the heck they are talking. Do they think US laws are like a nose made of wax and you can bend it at will. Wishful thinking. They are cheaters in wholesome as a nation. Look at their all big brand names in IT field. Almost all of them have been blacklisted by world bodies (such as UNO) for cheating one way or the other. Cheating is embedded in their blood and mind. And these thugs are trying to blackmail the law of the land in the US when caught red handed. It's a deep disgrace but Indians have no self-respect at all. Expect anything from them.
 
This sums up American view from a comment for the article that I posted to open this thread.


"We will deal with them in good time," - is that a threat? Apparently it is. A diplomat cheats the law in host country and caught. Her government is now threatening and trying to blackmail the host country rather than being ashamed for the disgrace that the diplomat brought to her country. Indians don't really know what the heck they are talking. Do they think US laws are like a nose made of wax and you can bend it at will. Wishful thinking. They are cheaters in wholesome as a nation. Look at their all big brand names in IT field. Almost all of them have been blacklisted by world bodies (such as UNO) for cheating one way or the other. Cheating is embedded in their blood and mind. And these thugs are trying to blackmail the law of the land in the US when caught red handed. It's a deep disgrace but Indians have no self-respect at all. Expect anything from them.

Who's american view is that? Yours? EPIC fail!!
 
Another comment that is worth considering

Why is there such wailing from India? They "steal" our iron works from NY and US foundries which must pay applicable wages to iron workes in America but in India, Iron workers work in cotton skirts or loincloths and bare feet. They don't wear gloves, or shoes, nor even masks or eye protection. They are paid $1 a day or less for 10-12 hour days. They are so proud of this-"Oh!" They say,"We Indians now make the iron manhole covers for NYC and we do it for less money then you stupid Americans can!"
Now, after destroying our local iron industry-they bring in foreign maids, who speak no language anyone here understands, make them work 18 hours, 7 days a week, and never give them time off. They expect the US to clap like stupid walruses or seals? They really hate us and know they'll get away with it. Just go and cry to Obama and they get what they want. Ands they want their upper caste females to get special treatment-including not being handcuffed or even touched by low caste black or latino cops who they think are the same as their slaves in India.

Who's american view is that? Yours? EPIC fail!!

Nope. go to the link I posted above and read the comments. Its an eye opener. Most American do think that Indians are arrogant and inconsiderate. @JayAtl, can you go to that link and read the comments. See if you support Americans on this issue.

Another interesting comment

So the house keeper was paid $3.31 dollars per hour... Slave labor pay, no matter what country you are from !!! This "so-called" Diplomat, needs a lesson in "COMMON SENSE, GOOD JUDGEMENT AND HOW TO TREAT YOUR FELLOW MAN" !!!! And to the good folks of India, GET A GRIP !!!! After all, would you like for your daughter to work for this "SLAVE DRIVER" ???!!! After all, Khobragade, is just HUMAN, and should treat other humans EQUALLY !!! This is not an INTERNATIONAL PROBLEM, IT'S A PERSONAL PROBLEM !!! Khobragade needs a lesson in "HUMANITY" and just how to treat your "FELLOW MAN", or woman, in this case !!!!! I'm just a 67 year old U.S. citizen, however, my Mom and Dad taught me how to treat "PEOPLE" when I was 10 years old !!!!! And God willing, I'll never forget that lesson !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who's american view is that? Yours? EPIC fail!!

Here is another American view for you

Fine, don't like our law well then, you either obey the law or go home where your country accept your bad actions. Many wealthy indian often abuse the lower class poor indian. Just because they have money and power, they think they can get away. Uh uh not in America.
Deport after 10 years jail time, please
 
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Here is another American view for you

Fine, don't like our law well then, you either obey the law or go home where your country accept your bad actions. Many wealthy indian often abuse the lower class poor indian. Just because they have money and power, they think they can get away. Uh uh not in America.
Deport after 10 years jail time, please

Well , Neither the GOI nor the people of India gives a flying fcuk to what these US citizens comments or considers in this matter .
 
india is always the one be bullied,nothing surprising.They are just too soft like their national father -Ghandi,a coward deserves to be bullied.
 
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