Indian mortar shell explosion kills 3 children

[Strigon]

There are border posts near border villages. Trying to act too smart does not hide your cheap attempts of taking potshots on a thread like this. You don't even know where the kids found the mortar, yet you are blabbering on. Pathetic.

Village =/= Boarder posts. You get that? I don't have to act overly smart, this is just common sense.

Almost every day you guys have a new thread bragging on the amazing technology but not good enough to fire at a clearly visible post? And when sh!t hits the fan, blame the kids for not knowing what mortar shell is ?

Officals in south korea resigned their high post when a ship that sank with little to no fault of their own, you and the other clown blame others for your intentional fire.... I mean accidental fire. Learn some humility please.

An army men kills himself.....and u think he was behind that incident....
a man with honor would never do that and one who does that will not have the courage to kill himself.......

Regarding the competence part....
do some research and see where ur rangers post r located....
ur personals have intentionally made the outposts near the village areas.....and if have this shame.....u should acknowledge why would one do that....

I repeat once again......u don't know anything about the IA and this is not the proper thread for ur patriotism
Leave it

Since the start, I haven't showed any patriotism. Questioning you as to why fire at villages is not patriotism, its called humanity and I realize your kind is not aware of this concept so I don't really blame you.

I dont think we need to call sherlock to solve the mystery of a man killing himself out of guilt. You guys lack common sense too?

 

[45'22']

Village =/= Boarder posts. You get that? I don't have to act overly smart, this is just common sense.

Almost every day you guys have a new thread bragging on the amazing technology but not good enough to fire at a clearly visible post? And when sh!t hits the fan, blame the kids for not knowing what mortar shell is ?

Officals in south korea resigned their high post when a ship that sank with little to no fault of their own, you and the other clown blame others for your intentional fire.... I mean accidental fire. Learn some humility please.




Since the start, I haven't showed any patriotism. Questioning you as to why fire at villages is not patriotism, its called humanity and I realize your kind is not aware of this concept so I don't really blame you.

I dont think we need to call sherlock to solve the mystery of a man killing himself out of guilt. You guys lack common sense too?

Check the distance that Indian army maintains with the village while creating a border outposts and do the same with your rangers.....
You will understand what I m talking about....
But u r not going to agree to that even bcuz u want to turn a blind eye.....
whatever India does is evil ......this is what u believe and that is what u r propagating here which is blind patriotism....

Village =/= Boarder posts. You get that? I don't have to act overly smart, this is just common sense.

Almost every day you guys have a new thread bragging on the amazing technology but not good enough to fire at a clearly visible post? And when sh!t hits the fan, blame the kids for not knowing what mortar shell is ?

Officals in south korea resigned their high post when a ship that sank with little to no fault of their own, you and the other clown blame others for your intentional fire.... I mean accidental fire. Learn some humility please.




Since the start, I haven't showed any patriotism. Questioning you as to why fire at villages is not patriotism, its called humanity and I realize your kind is not aware of this concept so I don't really blame you.

I dont think we need to call sherlock to solve the mystery of a man killing himself out of guilt. You guys lack common sense too?

Check the distance that Indian army maintains with the village while creating a border outposts and do the same with your rangers.....
You will understand what I m talking about....
But u r not going to agree to that even bcuz u want to turn a blind eye.....
whatever India does is evil ......this is what u believe and that is what u r propagating here which is blind patriotism....

 

[Strigon]

Check the distance that Indian army maintains with the village while creating a border outposts and do the same with your rangers.....
You will understand what I m talking about....
But u r not going to agree to that even bcuz u want to turn a blind eye.....
whatever India does is evil ......this is what u believe and that is what u r propagating here which is blind patriotism....

Pretty sure you still have zero idea of the meaning of the word patriotism.

So basically it all now boils down to the inaccuracy or incompetence for not being able to specifically target the highest post around "near" to the village. Since you are so aware of the post locations please show me a layout that proves your point.

Also, what excuse you have for this?

"On October 29, Pakistan had lodged a protest with India after their forces shot dead an elderly villager who had inadvertently crossed the border while tending to his fields."

Keep in mind that we returned one of your soldiers that couldn't swim and was carried over to Pakistani side by the river.

People who never admit their mistakes always suffer most in the end.

 

[45'22']

guys please kids dead for hell sake leave aside BSting this thread chup ker ke nikal jao aik lafz likh ker . insaaniyat dikhao nationalism nhi

I m sorry.....
I m out of this thread

 

[pak-marine]

@Zarvan your so called cartoon jihadi monkeys have killed 61 yesterday and if we were to have an estimated count globally than only god knows number must be in 1000's every single day. So stop making a big fuss on these mortars shells which most likely could be a mistake.

 

[45'22']

These are mortar shells......not even US can pinpoint mortar shells to the exact point

Pretty sure you still have zero idea of the meaning of the word patriotism.

So basically it all now boils down to the inaccuracy or incompetence for not being able to specifically target the highest post around "near" to the village. Since you are so aware of the post locations please show me a layout that proves your point.

Also, what excuse you have for this?

"On October 29, Pakistan had lodged a protest with India after their forces shot dead an elderly villager who had inadvertently crossed the border while tending to his fields."

Keep in mind that we returned one of your soldiers that couldn't swim and was carried over to Pakistani side by the river.

People who never admit their mistakes always suffer most in the end.

the reason being you guys only.....today also iA killed one woman who was trying to cross the fence during the night time and was trying to infiltrate into India......
I am sorry for the old man but no one can do anything when one has the chances to literally blow himself......

Pakistan returning an Indian soldier is different thing.....few months back we returned an Pakistani soldier who had infiltrated bcuz he loved someone.....


Now stop quoting me......

 

[Strigon]

These are mortar shells......not even US can pinpoint mortar shells to the exact point

the reason being you guys only.....today also iA killed one woman who was trying to cross the fence during the night time and was trying to infiltrate into India......
I am sorry for the old man but no one can do anything when one has the chances to literally blow himself......

Pakistan returning an Indian soldier is different thing.....few months back we returned an Pakistani soldier who had infiltrated bcuz he loved someone.....


Now stop quoting me......

That woman, and the old man didn't know where they were venturing. They are un-educated about borders. Not everyone crossing is intentionally crossing to harm India. It takes more courage to make an assessment of a situation before pulling the trigger.

And no its not different at all, if anything it is more reasonable to kill a person in uniform crossing into than an old guy or a lost woman.

You still haven't shown me the maps you speak so highly of...


And now you are comparing to US?


Like what is it now? Still blaming the proximity of the post or now inaccuracy? Can you land your needle on on thing??

 

[kadamba-warrior]

First of all, this is not the thread to apportion the blame on anybody for the unfortunate death of innocent children. But It is sad that you have chosen this thread to blame BSF and Indians in general while glossing over the whole background of the story.

Since you are accusing BSF for wanton destruction of life, we will have to reply!!

Firstly, keep in mind that such thing can happen on Indian side too. All it takes is an unfortunate child/adult to get close to an unexploded ammunition (which are expected to be in plenty after thousands of rounds were exchanged)! Is it fair then to blame entire Pakistanis for the death of that person? We can only blame the party which started the Ceasefire violations!!!

So basically it all now boils down to the inaccuracy or incompetence for not being able to specifically target the highest post around "near" to the village. Since you are so aware of the post locations please show me a layout that proves your point.

Also, what excuse you have for this?

You are making too many assumptions. Nobody knows for sure why BSF shell landed there.

It could very well be that the shots were being fired from near that village first (with Rangers using village as a cover).

Or that BSF retaliated after Rangers fired at Indian villages! We definitely know that many Indians villages were hit with multiple fatalities reported on Indian side as well. Dig up the thread on LOC Ceasefire Violations. You will see that there were many Indian reports of fatalities in villages on Indian side as well.

"On October 29, Pakistan had lodged a protest with India after their forces shot dead an elderly villager who had inadvertently crossed the border while tending to his fields."

So were the fatalities in Indians villages.

Keep in mind that we returned one of your soldiers that couldn't swim and was carried over to Pakistani side by the river.

Such incidents are admirable but India too has reciprocated it many times. You just need to read them up.

 

[Strigon]

You are making too many assumptions

It could very well be that the shots were being fired from near that village first

Or that BSF retaliated after Rangers fired at Indian villages!

Assumptions, u say?

So were the fatalities in Indians villages.

Which makes it okay to kill the old man just to even the score then?


I have enough reason here to realize I am talking to a tool.

 

[unbiasedopinion]

Look at the title of the same news by Dawn.

Mortar explosion kills three children in Narowal village - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

If I go by the title of the OP posted link, I thought there was mortar shelling by BSF again and it killed 3 children, but the content is actually different.

These kind of provoking titles by media houses are the main reason for lots of problems.

 

[kadamba-warrior]

Which makes it okay to kill the old man just to even the score then?

You are condemning the retaliation from BSF, but was it okay to fire at Indian villages first and killing Indian villagers?

Try to think from others' point of view as well!!! Even we are pissed of on this side of the border as well! We think that some guys from Pakistani side started shooting from across to provide cover fire to infiltrators (which has been going on for many years). But I, as a civilian don't have definitive evidence to make that allegation, so I am refraining myself from doing so.

And, I know that you also don't have definitive evidence to blame India for started the whole ceasefire violations. But still you blame BSF and Indians anyway. See the hypocrisy here??

I have enough reason here to realize I am talking to a tool.

Ran out of arguments, 'Sir'?

 

[unbiasedopinion]

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Another conspiracy..

Come on, its an unfortunate incident. Dont play debate debate on it.

 

[Burhan Wani]

Another conspiracy..

Come on, its an unfortunate incident. Dont play debate debate on it.

We are well aware about horrible face of india. It is not the very first incident. There were many toy bomb causalities reported in LOC azad kashmir. Toy bomb kills five children in AJK village - Newspaper - DAWN.COM

 

[Strigon]

You are condemning the retaliation from BSF, but was it okay to fire at Indian villages first and killing Indian villagers?

Try to think from others' point of view as well!!! Even we are pissed of on this side of the border as well! We think that some guys from Pakistani side started shooting from across to provide cover fire to infiltrators (which has been going on for many years). But I, as a civilian don't have definitive evidence to make that allegation, so I am refraining myself from doing so.

And, I know that you also don't have definitive evidence to blame India for started the whole ceasefire violations. But still you blame BSF and Indians anyway. See the hypocrisy here??



Ran out of arguments, 'Sir'?

Like I said before, doesn't take sherlock to solve the mystery of a shell fired at a village was an innocent and unintentional act, really trying to target the clearly visible, clearly separate, clearly taller guard post. Pick one for your BSF.

• Intentional murder of children
• Incompetence

See your "assumption" post first and check the co-relation with "hypocrisy" and while you are at it, look it up on dictionary as well. You just validated my "tool" argument, thanks!.

 

[kadamba-warrior]

Like I said before, doesn't take sherlock to solve the mystery of a shell fired at a village was an innocent and unintentional act, really trying to target the clearly visible, clearly separate, clearly taller guard post. Pick one for your BSF.

• Intentional murder of children
• Incompetence

See your "assumption" post first and check the co-relation with "hypocrisy" and while you are at it, look it up on dictionary as well. You just validated my "tool" argument, thanks!.

Yeah, right!!! Not only did BSF first fire shells and made sure that they didn't explode, but also made sure that only children picked it up!!!

Like I said earlier, there may be hundred of unexploded shells on Indian side as well. Similar incident could have happened (or can happen in near future) on Indian side as well. And similarly, innocent Indian children could die because of that. Do I come back and blame Pakistanis for Intentional Murder of Innocent children??? Talk some sense, mate!!!

Like I said, you are again making accusations without any shred of evidence!
What is the point in talking to you? Continue with your accusations and personal attacks!!!