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Indian arrested in Saudi Arabia for posting blasphemous image

That would be very harsh if they punish him in their usual way....... Poor guy clicked the like button and landed himself in trouble....
 
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Its interesting to Read the reaction of Muslims to this arrest,............ full of hate and vindictiveness. Hardly a rational voice. Time to look at the face of Islam


Indian national arrested for blasphemous Facebook post | Arab News

  • Elite • 18 hours ago
    How did Prophet (PBUH) treated suspects of blasphemy?

    He refused to punish those who threw stones at him in Taif, yet the entire muslim world acts furiously when something is said against him. We can strongly disagree with such opinion without violence.

    Please enlighten me with hadees.

  • Mr Sanity Elite • 15 hours ago
    He got someone else to do his dirty work on a few occasions though, most notably in the case of Asma bint Marwan - stabbed to death whilst she slept with her baby for making poetry negative about Mo.

  • trapezius77 • a day ago
    If what he says is true, why should he be punished? (Assuming he took it down once he saw what it was, and did not leave it on there or propagate it in any way.)



  • JoeDokes999 trapezius77 • 17 hours ago
    He claims that he only "liked" the picture, but this would make it appear on his Facebook page while he was in Saudi Arabia, so that would meet the definition of blasphemy. It is unfortunate, and, as a Westerner, I find it sad and distasteful, but I recognize the right of KSA to enforce its laws as it sees fit, and if I was ever to visit KSA (which is unlikely), I would make sure I followed their laws and did not commit blasphemy.

  • SAM • 18 hours ago
    Basically, ever since the BJP government existed in India, intolerant Hindus have gained tremendous courage, and this blasphemy is the sign of their over ambitions to conquer holy places of muslims, in succession to the demolition of Babri masjid in India.


  • android • 19 hours ago
    Inspite of having a large number of talented youths, India is still a developing nation because of its pagan supertitious beliefs and practices

  • Mohsen Gohden • 19 hours ago
    Blasphemy laws are lame. They reflect a mindset that can not rise above criticism or insult. Of course, agreeing with me could be seen as blasphemous so don't anyone do that else you could end up in the slammer.

  • Mohammad • a day ago
    Facebook and Twitter are both now a big problem. It's true any wrong click can be big problem but we don't know what we did. Specially smartphones are a big prob problem because of touch screen and sometimes slow network just a click sometimes its shared a photo or anything but user doesn't know. Thats make a mistake. So I think 1st time mistake better forgive.

  • Anwar Khan • a day ago
    This is a blasphemy case and warrants that he should be punished, expelled and banned from entering KSA; Muslims do not tag any idol with the holy place of other religions. He is deliberately trying to superimpose his faith

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    Truth Anwar Khan • 21 hours ago
    How do you know that? Unless his intentions were proven to be otherwise, he needs to be given a fair trial and hearing. Do not jump to conclusions.

  • JoeDokes999 Anwar Khan • 17 hours ago
    While, here in the West, I wouldn't support such a law, the law is the law and KSA has the right to impose its own culture and laws, so this man should have been more careful in the public expression of a view that is clearly blasphemous.

  • adam • 14 hours ago
    Indians should not be allowed into the Kingdom period, not for work not for anything, They are Najus, they hate Islam and muslims, they bring idols with them and have them in their homes,ofiices,cars and carry their pictures. A sample read of readers comments in indian newspapers (eg.Times of India) on any news story about Islam, Muslims, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan etc will show their true feelings of compulsive hate and enmity.

  • adam • 16 hours ago
    Kingdom should not allow these Idol worshipers to even enter the country, They are Najus, they bring their Idols with them and carry them in their vehicles and wallets and have them in their homes and offices. Does the Quran not tell us about their hate and enmity towards the believers, just see the Indian newspapers (Times of india) readers comments they post for any story about Islam, Saudi Arabia,Pakistan, muslims etc..They will not rest until they bring about destruction of Islam.


  • abdul • 16 hours ago
    Is facebook is accountable for material posted on it ????
    Does facebook filter its contents such as anti-security, terrorism related material? If yes, why it does not filter anti-Islamic and blasphemous material?

  • The one who shall not be named • 19 hours ago
    Firstly, I think he is lying because, never has facebook made anyone like a picture to view it. Secondly even if he did like to see the picture, he should have immediately un-liked it or deleted it. It shows he intentionally wanted everyone to see the picture but not want to take the blame for it

  • Syed • 19 hours ago
    Punish him in such a way that it should be lesson to such fitna spreading people

  • justice • 19 hours ago
    if he clicks "like" for such a clumsy picture, that itself is a violation of cyber laws every where including india.. so lets not try to belittle his crime.. ask the indians what they would do if some thing like that was caught there? just liking posts against humans can land you in jail.. there was 1 girl who complained on facebook how bal thakreys funeral disrupted traffic and another girl just "liked" it and both were roughed up by locals and landed up in the police station just because they were muslims. it was all over the media, but no body did any thing.

    AN- there is no point highlighting that he's been here ONLY for 2 years.. you're expected to understand the laws before entering a country not after breaking them.

  • Rahat Ullah • 20 hours ago
    May Allah keep the KSA to give such a remarkable punishment to those who violate the Islamic values

  • yousef joe • a day ago
    He is innocent...

    Thru social media, it is someone trapped him to visit the page with normal photo at first and he clicked the page, later the page has been changed with blasphemous image of the Kaaba.

    Now-a-days, their is lot of new materials, you-tube, social media need to logging using Facebook Id. During pop-up it will show a normal picture of natural scenery or a pet animal, after we trapped by it, click it, will share it page in our social media homepage, and later operator the picture will be changed to publish his intention about a nude one, or political offense or religious offense.

  • Solomon Razak • a day ago
    why punish him whenthe Saudis are doing the same,they destroying all the Islamic heritage all over the middle east with the help from ISIS

  • RajRaj • a day ago
    what the heck is wrong with you people, who in the world would do anything like this in his proper mind and state. Believing that he is working in a Muslim country.
    If he can prove his innocence then well and good for him, and any which way the law is only for the ajnabis. How many saudis have you seen being punished? either they are cleared as disturbed minds or sent off the land for better.

  • Mansoor Warren • a day ago
    Liar says "he jsut needed to click like to open it". Do not we all use facebook. Real Indian mentality coems out in the open.

  • Clark Oandasan • a day ago
    the accused must have been given a chance to errace or correct his pasted posts. such punishments should not be occurred if he should been given chance to errace or counter what he has previously posted...
    sometimes you need to like a posted image for you to read it later because you are too busy and you think it is interesting to read it later that's why you have to like it in order to be able to see and read later after work...
    at least the FB company should be blamed for not putting a choice to like it but not to share it...like it because you are interested to read it later..
    but FB once you liked it, it will also share it....FB should be blame 80%.

  • T J • a day ago
    But this is a real menace which facebook should address.. Many times on FB some link will be offered and they will ask you to share before you can view.. And finally you end up sharing which is obnoxious and filthy..
 
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MokshaVimukthi said:
Its interesting to Read the reaction of Muslims to this arrest,............ full of hate and vindictiveness. Hardly a rational voice. Time to look at the face of Islam


Indian national arrested for blasphemous Facebook post | Arab News

  • Elite • 18 hours ago
    How did Prophet (PBUH) treated suspects of blasphemy?

    He refused to punish those who threw stones at him in Taif, yet the entire muslim world acts furiously when something is said against him. We can strongly disagree with such opinion without violence.

    Please enlighten me with hadees.

  • Mr Sanity Elite • 15 hours ago
    He got someone else to do his dirty work on a few occasions though, most notably in the case of Asma bint Marwan - stabbed to death whilst she slept with her baby for making poetry negative about Mo.

  • trapezius77 • a day ago
    If what he says is true, why should he be punished? (Assuming he took it down once he saw what it was, and did not leave it on there or propagate it in any way.)



  • JoeDokes999 trapezius77 • 17 hours ago
    He claims that he only "liked" the picture, but this would make it appear on his Facebook page while he was in Saudi Arabia, so that would meet the definition of blasphemy. It is unfortunate, and, as a Westerner, I find it sad and distasteful, but I recognize the right of KSA to enforce its laws as it sees fit, and if I was ever to visit KSA (which is unlikely), I would make sure I followed their laws and did not commit blasphemy.

  • SAM • 18 hours ago
    Basically, ever since the BJP government existed in India, intolerant Hindus have gained tremendous courage, and this blasphemy is the sign of their over ambitions to conquer holy places of muslims, in succession to the demolition of Babri masjid in India.


  • android • 19 hours ago
    Inspite of having a large number of talented youths, India is still a developing nation because of its pagan supertitious beliefs and practices

  • Mohsen Gohden • 19 hours ago
    Blasphemy laws are lame. They reflect a mindset that can not rise above criticism or insult. Of course, agreeing with me could be seen as blasphemous so don't anyone do that else you could end up in the slammer.

  • Mohammad • a day ago
    Facebook and Twitter are both now a big problem. It's true any wrong click can be big problem but we don't know what we did. Specially smartphones are a big prob problem because of touch screen and sometimes slow network just a click sometimes its shared a photo or anything but user doesn't know. Thats make a mistake. So I think 1st time mistake better forgive.

  • Anwar Khan • a day ago
    This is a blasphemy case and warrants that he should be punished, expelled and banned from entering KSA; Muslims do not tag any idol with the holy place of other religions. He is deliberately trying to superimpose his faith

  • \
    Truth Anwar Khan • 21 hours ago
    How do you know that? Unless his intentions were proven to be otherwise, he needs to be given a fair trial and hearing. Do not jump to conclusions.

  • JoeDokes999 Anwar Khan • 17 hours ago
    While, here in the West, I wouldn't support such a law, the law is the law and KSA has the right to impose its own culture and laws, so this man should have been more careful in the public expression of a view that is clearly blasphemous.

  • adam • 14 hours ago
    Indians should not be allowed into the Kingdom period, not for work not for anything, They are Najus, they hate Islam and muslims, they bring idols with them and have them in their homes,ofiices,cars and carry their pictures. A sample read of readers comments in indian newspapers (eg.Times of India) on any news story about Islam, Muslims, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan etc will show their true feelings of compulsive hate and enmity.

  • adam • 16 hours ago
    Kingdom should not allow these Idol worshipers to even enter the country, They are Najus, they bring their Idols with them and carry them in their vehicles and wallets and have them in their homes and offices. Does the Quran not tell us about their hate and enmity towards the believers, just see the Indian newspapers (Times of india) readers comments they post for any story about Islam, Saudi Arabia,Pakistan, muslims etc..They will not rest until they bring about destruction of Islam.


  • abdul • 16 hours ago
    Is facebook is accountable for material posted on it ????
    Does facebook filter its contents such as anti-security, terrorism related material? If yes, why it does not filter anti-Islamic and blasphemous material?

  • The one who shall not be named • 19 hours ago
    Firstly, I think he is lying because, never has facebook made anyone like a picture to view it. Secondly even if he did like to see the picture, he should have immediately un-liked it or deleted it. It shows he intentionally wanted everyone to see the picture but not want to take the blame for it

  • Syed • 19 hours ago
    Punish him in such a way that it should be lesson to such fitna spreading people

  • justice • 19 hours ago
    if he clicks "like" for such a clumsy picture, that itself is a violation of cyber laws every where including india.. so lets not try to belittle his crime.. ask the indians what they would do if some thing like that was caught there? just liking posts against humans can land you in jail.. there was 1 girl who complained on facebook how bal thakreys funeral disrupted traffic and another girl just "liked" it and both were roughed up by locals and landed up in the police station just because they were muslims. it was all over the media, but no body did any thing.

    AN- there is no point highlighting that he's been here ONLY for 2 years.. you're expected to understand the laws before entering a country not after breaking them.

  • Rahat Ullah • 20 hours ago
    May Allah keep the KSA to give such a remarkable punishment to those who violate the Islamic values

  • yousef joe • a day ago
    He is innocent...

    Thru social media, it is someone trapped him to visit the page with normal photo at first and he clicked the page, later the page has been changed with blasphemous image of the Kaaba.

    Now-a-days, their is lot of new materials, you-tube, social media need to logging using Facebook Id. During pop-up it will show a normal picture of natural scenery or a pet animal, after we trapped by it, click it, will share it page in our social media homepage, and later operator the picture will be changed to publish his intention about a nude one, or political offense or religious offense.

  • Solomon Razak • a day ago
    why punish him whenthe Saudis are doing the same,they destroying all the Islamic heritage all over the middle east with the help from ISIS

  • RajRaj • a day ago
    what the heck is wrong with you people, who in the world would do anything like this in his proper mind and state. Believing that he is working in a Muslim country.
    If he can prove his innocence then well and good for him, and any which way the law is only for the ajnabis. How many saudis have you seen being punished? either they are cleared as disturbed minds or sent off the land for better.

  • Mansoor Warren • a day ago
    Liar says "he jsut needed to click like to open it". Do not we all use facebook. Real Indian mentality coems out in the open.

  • Clark Oandasan • a day ago
    the accused must have been given a chance to errace or correct his pasted posts. such punishments should not be occurred if he should been given chance to errace or counter what he has previously posted...
    sometimes you need to like a posted image for you to read it later because you are too busy and you think it is interesting to read it later that's why you have to like it in order to be able to see and read later after work...
    at least the FB company should be blamed for not putting a choice to like it but not to share it...like it because you are interested to read it later..
    but FB once you liked it, it will also share it....FB should be blame 80%.

  • T J • a day ago
    But this is a real menace which facebook should address.. Many times on FB some link will be offered and they will ask you to share before you can view.. And finally you end up sharing which is obnoxious and filthy..
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i asked this question to many but no no one replied
they doing exact opposite i think
Elite • 18 hours ago
How did Prophet (PBUH) treated suspects of blasphemy?

He refused to punish those who threw stones at him in Taif, yet the entire muslim world acts furiously when something is said against him. We can strongly disagree with such opinion without violence.
 
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pursuit of happiness said:
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i asked this question to many but no no one replied
they doing exact opposite i think
Elite • 18 hours ago
How did Prophet (PBUH) treated suspects of blasphemy?

He refused to punish those who threw stones at him in Taif, yet the entire muslim world acts furiously when something is said against him. We can strongly disagree with such opinion without violence.
Click to expand...


  • Mr Sanity Elite • 15 hours ago
    He got someone else to do his dirty work on a few occasions though, most notably in the case of Asma bint Marwan - stabbed to death whilst she slept with her baby for making poetry negative about Mo.
 
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There are many Indians on this Forum who are very quick in drawing conclusions about other Indian ethnic groups and their patriotism.Just look at some of the comments that these bloody Tamil Muslims have made in the forum above.What do those members have to say now??
 
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Star Wars said:
SO basically he has a Blasphemy case against him for hitting "like"
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you got it

Saudis got all the time in the world these days
when they are not beheading drug mules from Pakistan then they are supporting their favourite teams in Syria and Iraq

OR raiding private parties and arresting people on blasphemy
 
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gau8av said:
are they going to chop his head off ? :(
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They can do anything they want and there is nothing anyone can do to stop them. But I hope they listen to his reason and believe him because that sounds like a truth, too much shit happens on the internet and click this and click that can get people in trouble. I dont think any Indian would do such a thing knowing well the consequences in the Kingdom and knowing they have balsphamy laws in India as well.
 
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Nicky G said:
When is Obama giving freedom of religion and freedom of expression in SA?
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joke of the day

DARIUS said:
There are many Indians on this Forum who are very quick in drawing conclusions about other Indian ethnic groups and their patriotism.Just look at some of the comments that these bloody Tamil Muslims have made in the forum above.What do those members have to say now??
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I got a comment for you

your avatar is awesome
 
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Irfan Baloch said:
not going to happen in our lifetime or even our grand children life time
by the way it wont matter
the damage is done already
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thats bad news really , saudi oil money has been creating problems in developing countries like india and pakistan which have a large muslim population. Can you give me the source of your information mate would like to go through it. (On oil depletion rate in SA , i made some searches on google after reading your post but couldn't find any info)
 
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pursuit of happiness said:
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i read it .. but cant got it context.
so put only thing which i could understand ..
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'Asma' bint Marwan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The story of bint Marwan and her death appears in the works of Ibn Ishaq and Ibn Sa'd, who included narrations regardless of their authenticity. According to the reports, her family viewed Muhammad and his followers as unwelcome interlopers in Medina. After the Muslim victory over the Quraysh in Mecca in 624 in the Battle of Badr a number of Muhammad's opponents were killed. She composed poems that publicly defamed the local tribesmen who converted to Islam and allied with Muhammad, and called for his death.[6] In her poems, she also ridiculed Medinians for obeying a chief not of their kin.[7] Ibn Ishaq mentions that bint Marwan also displayed disaffection after the Medinian Abu Afak was killed for inciting rebellion against Muhammad. The poem said: "do you expect good from (Muhammad) after the killing of your chiefs" and asked: "Is there no man of pride who would attack him by surprise/ And cut off the hopes of those who expect aught from him?" Upon hearing the poem, Muhammad then called for her death in turn, saying "Who will rid me of Marwan's daughter?" Umayr bin Adiy al-Khatmi, a blind man belonging to the same tribe as Asma’s husband (i.e., Banu Khatma) responded that he would. He crept into her room in the dark of night where she was sleeping with her five children, her infant child close to her bosom. Umayr removed the child from Asma's breast and killed her.[6]
 
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MokshaVimukthi said:
Its interesting to Read the reaction of Muslims to this arrest,............ full of hate and vindictiveness. Hardly a rational voice. Time to look at the face of Islam


Indian national arrested for blasphemous Facebook post | Arab News

  • Elite • 18 hours ago
    How did Prophet (PBUH) treated suspects of blasphemy?

    He refused to punish those who threw stones at him in Taif, yet the entire muslim world acts furiously when something is said against him. We can strongly disagree with such opinion without violence.

    Please enlighten me with hadees.

  • Mr Sanity Elite • 15 hours ago
    He got someone else to do his dirty work on a few occasions though, most notably in the case of Asma bint Marwan - stabbed to death whilst she slept with her baby for making poetry negative about Mo.

  • trapezius77 • a day ago
    If what he says is true, why should he be punished? (Assuming he took it down once he saw what it was, and did not leave it on there or propagate it in any way.)



  • JoeDokes999 trapezius77 • 17 hours ago
    He claims that he only "liked" the picture, but this would make it appear on his Facebook page while he was in Saudi Arabia, so that would meet the definition of blasphemy. It is unfortunate, and, as a Westerner, I find it sad and distasteful, but I recognize the right of KSA to enforce its laws as it sees fit, and if I was ever to visit KSA (which is unlikely), I would make sure I followed their laws and did not commit blasphemy.

  • SAM • 18 hours ago
    Basically, ever since the BJP government existed in India, intolerant Hindus have gained tremendous courage, and this blasphemy is the sign of their over ambitions to conquer holy places of muslims, in succession to the demolition of Babri masjid in India.


  • android • 19 hours ago
    Inspite of having a large number of talented youths, India is still a developing nation because of its pagan supertitious beliefs and practices

  • Mohsen Gohden • 19 hours ago
    Blasphemy laws are lame. They reflect a mindset that can not rise above criticism or insult. Of course, agreeing with me could be seen as blasphemous so don't anyone do that else you could end up in the slammer.

  • Mohammad • a day ago
    Facebook and Twitter are both now a big problem. It's true any wrong click can be big problem but we don't know what we did. Specially smartphones are a big prob problem because of touch screen and sometimes slow network just a click sometimes its shared a photo or anything but user doesn't know. Thats make a mistake. So I think 1st time mistake better forgive.

  • Anwar Khan • a day ago
    This is a blasphemy case and warrants that he should be punished, expelled and banned from entering KSA; Muslims do not tag any idol with the holy place of other religions. He is deliberately trying to superimpose his faith

  • \
    Truth Anwar Khan • 21 hours ago
    How do you know that? Unless his intentions were proven to be otherwise, he needs to be given a fair trial and hearing. Do not jump to conclusions.

  • JoeDokes999 Anwar Khan • 17 hours ago
    While, here in the West, I wouldn't support such a law, the law is the law and KSA has the right to impose its own culture and laws, so this man should have been more careful in the public expression of a view that is clearly blasphemous.

  • adam • 14 hours ago
    Indians should not be allowed into the Kingdom period, not for work not for anything, They are Najus, they hate Islam and muslims, they bring idols with them and have them in their homes,ofiices,cars and carry their pictures. A sample read of readers comments in indian newspapers (eg.Times of India) on any news story about Islam, Muslims, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan etc will show their true feelings of compulsive hate and enmity.

  • adam • 16 hours ago
    Kingdom should not allow these Idol worshipers to even enter the country, They are Najus, they bring their Idols with them and carry them in their vehicles and wallets and have them in their homes and offices. Does the Quran not tell us about their hate and enmity towards the believers, just see the Indian newspapers (Times of india) readers comments they post for any story about Islam, Saudi Arabia,Pakistan, muslims etc..They will not rest until they bring about destruction of Islam.


  • abdul • 16 hours ago
    Is facebook is accountable for material posted on it ????
    Does facebook filter its contents such as anti-security, terrorism related material? If yes, why it does not filter anti-Islamic and blasphemous material?

  • The one who shall not be named • 19 hours ago
    Firstly, I think he is lying because, never has facebook made anyone like a picture to view it. Secondly even if he did like to see the picture, he should have immediately un-liked it or deleted it. It shows he intentionally wanted everyone to see the picture but not want to take the blame for it

  • Syed • 19 hours ago
    Punish him in such a way that it should be lesson to such fitna spreading people

  • justice • 19 hours ago
    if he clicks "like" for such a clumsy picture, that itself is a violation of cyber laws every where including india.. so lets not try to belittle his crime.. ask the indians what they would do if some thing like that was caught there? just liking posts against humans can land you in jail.. there was 1 girl who complained on facebook how bal thakreys funeral disrupted traffic and another girl just "liked" it and both were roughed up by locals and landed up in the police station just because they were muslims. it was all over the media, but no body did any thing.

    AN- there is no point highlighting that he's been here ONLY for 2 years.. you're expected to understand the laws before entering a country not after breaking them.

  • Rahat Ullah • 20 hours ago
    May Allah keep the KSA to give such a remarkable punishment to those who violate the Islamic values

  • yousef joe • a day ago
    He is innocent...

    Thru social media, it is someone trapped him to visit the page with normal photo at first and he clicked the page, later the page has been changed with blasphemous image of the Kaaba.

    Now-a-days, their is lot of new materials, you-tube, social media need to logging using Facebook Id. During pop-up it will show a normal picture of natural scenery or a pet animal, after we trapped by it, click it, will share it page in our social media homepage, and later operator the picture will be changed to publish his intention about a nude one, or political offense or religious offense.

  • Solomon Razak • a day ago
    why punish him whenthe Saudis are doing the same,they destroying all the Islamic heritage all over the middle east with the help from ISIS

  • RajRaj • a day ago
    what the heck is wrong with you people, who in the world would do anything like this in his proper mind and state. Believing that he is working in a Muslim country.
    If he can prove his innocence then well and good for him, and any which way the law is only for the ajnabis. How many saudis have you seen being punished? either they are cleared as disturbed minds or sent off the land for better.

  • Mansoor Warren • a day ago
    Liar says "he jsut needed to click like to open it". Do not we all use facebook. Real Indian mentality coems out in the open.

  • Clark Oandasan • a day ago
    the accused must have been given a chance to errace or correct his pasted posts. such punishments should not be occurred if he should been given chance to errace or counter what he has previously posted...
    sometimes you need to like a posted image for you to read it later because you are too busy and you think it is interesting to read it later that's why you have to like it in order to be able to see and read later after work...
    at least the FB company should be blamed for not putting a choice to like it but not to share it...like it because you are interested to read it later..
    but FB once you liked it, it will also share it....FB should be blame 80%.

  • T J • a day ago
    But this is a real menace which facebook should address.. Many times on FB some link will be offered and they will ask you to share before you can view.. And finally you end up sharing which is obnoxious and filthy..
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dont pass on their hate you are equally responsible

. its like someone shot an arrow towards someone that fell short and someone picks it up and goes to its intended target and pinches him with it. (taken from a saying of a Central Asian sufi saint)
 
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MokshaVimukthi said:
'Asma' bint Marwan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The story of bint Marwan and her death appears in the works of Ibn Ishaq and Ibn Sa'd, who included narrations regardless of their authenticity. According to the reports, her family viewed Muhammad and his followers as unwelcome interlopers in Medina. After the Muslim victory over the Quraysh in Mecca in 624 in the Battle of Badr a number of Muhammad's opponents were killed. She composed poems that publicly defamed the local tribesmen who converted to Islam and allied with Muhammad, and called for his death.[6] In her poems, she also ridiculed Medinians for obeying a chief not of their kin.[7] Ibn Ishaq mentions that bint Marwan also displayed disaffection after the Medinian Abu Afak was killed for inciting rebellion against Muhammad. The poem said: "do you expect good from (Muhammad) after the killing of your chiefs" and asked: "Is there no man of pride who would attack him by surprise/ And cut off the hopes of those who expect aught from him?" Upon hearing the poem, Muhammad then called for her death in turn, saying "Who will rid me of Marwan's daughter?" Umayr bin Adiy al-Khatmi, a blind man belonging to the same tribe as Asma’s husband (i.e., Banu Khatma) responded that he would. He crept into her room in the dark of night where she was sleeping with her five children, her infant child close to her bosom. Umayr removed the child from Asma's breast and killed her.[6]
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thanks
let me go trhow it and underndat
 
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Zebra said:
thats bad news really , saudi oil money has been creating problems in developing countries like india and pakistan which have a large muslim population. Can you give me the source of your information mate would like to go through it. (On oil depletion rate in SA , i made some searches on google after reading your post but couldn't find any info)
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hehe.. you might not fight the exact truth because its a well guarded secret now. it the ultimate weapon of both Saudis and Iranians as a means to further their influence and continue to fan the proxy wars in our part of the world.


I saw that on the news many years (early 90s) ago a seismic survey and a coloured depiction of the remaining oil that is not extracted yet. the projection by the American company was that Kingdom has the resources for over 100 years.
 
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