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Nine reasons why India's WTO veto shocked the world

(Reuters) - India's tough diplomacy blocked a landmark world trade treaty late on Thursday, despite last-ditch talks to rescue what would have been the first global trade reform since the creation of the World Trade Organization 19 years ago.

Trade diplomats in Geneva have said they are "flabbergasted", "astonished" and "dismayed" and described India's position as "hostage-taking" and "suicidal". Here are nine reasons why they say India's stance made no sense.

1. India has been a vocal backer of world trade reform. It has criticised the small clubs of countries, led by the United States and European Union, that lost patience with the slow pace of global reforms and started to discuss faster liberalising of trade in certain areas, such as services and information technology products. India is not in any of these groups. But Thursday's veto is likely to give them even more momentum as hope of a global trade pact, long in doubt, appears to be over.

2. India's veto may be the beginning of the end for the WTO. Trade experts say that if the WTO's 20-year-old rulebook does not evolve, more and more trade will be governed by new regional agreements such as the Trans-Pacific Partnership, which will have their own rules and systems of resolving disputes. That could lead to a fragmented world of separate trade blocs.

3. India's new government was widely seen as being pro-business. And yet it blocked a deal on "trade facilitation", a worldwide streamlining of customs rules that would cut container handling times, guarantee standard procedures for getting goods to and from their destinations and kill off vast amounts of paperwork at borders around the world. Some estimates said it would add $1 trillion to the world economy as well as 21 million jobs, 18 million of them in developing countries.

4. Nobody else was negotiating. Thursday's meeting was simply supposed to formally adopt the final trade negotiation text into the WTO rulebook, following its agreement by ministers at a meeting in Bali last December. India's then Trade Minister Anand Sharma hailed the Bali deal as a landmark in the history of the WTO. "We were able to arrive at a balanced outcome which secures our supreme national interest," Sharma said at the time. India did not hint at any further objection until days before it wielded its veto, and even then it made no concrete demands until the WTO meeting to adopt the new rules was in progress.

5. India did not object to the deal it vetoed. Its objections were unconnected to trade facilitation. It blocked the trade facilitation deal to try to get what it wanted on something else: food security.

6. India had already got what it wanted on food security. At Bali, it forced a big concession from the United States and European Union, which initially strongly opposed its demands, but agreed that India could stockpile food at subsidised prices, reversing the trend of trying to reduce and remove trade-distorting food subsidies globally. The arrangement was temporary, but the WTO agreed to work towards a permanent solution within four years, by the end of 2017.

7. India's demands reversed its previous position. India blocked the trade facilitation deal because it wanted the WTO to move to a permanent solution more quickly than the four-year timeline. But diplomats say that India was offered a two-year timeframe before Bali but it insisted on four.

8. India's veto could put it in legal danger. As part of the Bali deal, India won a pledge that nobody would bring a trade dispute to challenge its food stockpiling programme, which is widely thought to have broken the WTO rules. However, diplomats say that Bali was a "package" of 10 agreements, and the only legally binding part was trade facilitation. If that fails, the package unravels, and India may lose its protection.

9. India was isolated. Cuba, Venezuela and Bolivia voiced support, but diplomats say other big developing countries such as Russia, China and Brazil, as well as India's neighbour Pakistan, were among the chief opponents of its veto. Poorer countries stand to lose most, WTO chief Roberto Azevedo told the WTO meeting after the deal collapsed. "They’re the ones with fewer options, who are at risk of being left behind. They’re the ones that may no longer have a seat at the table."



(Reporting by Tom Miles; Editing by Clarence Fernandez)


Nine reasons why India's WTO veto shocked the world| Reuters


Kerry meets Jaitley, discusses WTO impasse

US Secretary of State John Kerry on Thursday met Union Finance Minister Arun Jaitley and discussed India’s stance on the ongoing WTO’s Trade Facilitation Agreement talks which are set to conclude at Geneva later in the day.

Mr. Kerry was accompanied by U.S. Commerce Secretary Penny Pritzker who has already expressed disappointment over India’s stand at the ongoing TFA negotiations for easing customs rule for free movement of goods.

“We had a good discussion. India is a big market. We also had discussion on issues related to WTO,” an official privy to the meeting said.

India has been maintaining that it will not ratify the TFA, which is dear to the developed world, until a permanent solution is found on the issue of public stock holding for food security purposes.

The TFA, which aims at simplifying customs procedure, increasing transparency and reducing transactions cost, is being pushed by the U.S. and others as they seek to bolster their sagging economies through an unhindered international trade by way of uniform and easy procedures at customs.

India is seeking a guarantee on food security for its hundreds of millions of poor as a pre-condition for the passage of the pact.

The agreement, drafted during a ministerial at the Indonesian resort town of Bali last December, has to be sealed by July 31.

On Wednesday, Ms. Pritzker said she was “hopeful that even in the last remaining days India might find a way to come to a solution on this issue”.


India’s demands block $1 trillion WTO deal on customs rules

By David Brunnstrom and Tom Miles

NEW DELHI/GENEVA (Reuters) – The World Trade Organization failed on Thursday to reach a deal to standardise customs rules, which would have been the first global trade reform in two decades but was blocked by India’s demands for concessions on agricultural stockpiling. “We have not been able to find a solution that would allow us to bridge that gap,” WTO Director-General Roberto Azevedo told trade diplomats in Geneva just two hours before the final deadline for a deal.

“Of course it is true that everything remains in play until midnight, but at present there is no workable solution on the table, and I have no indication that one will be forthcoming.”

The deadline passed without a breakthrough. WTO ministers had already agreed the global reform of customs procedures known as “trade facilitation” last December, but it needed to be put into the WTO rule book by July 31.

Most diplomats saw that as rubber-stamping a unique success in the WTO’s 19 year history, which according to some estimates would add $1 trillion (£592.22 billion) and 21 million jobs to the world economy, so they were shocked when India unveiled its veto.

Trade experts say Thursday’s failure is likely to end the era of trying to cobble together global trade agreements and to accelerate efforts by smaller groups of like-minded nations to liberalise trade among themselves. India has been vocal in opposing such moves, making its veto even more surprising.

“Today’s developments suggest that there is little hope for truly global trade talks to take place,” said Jake Colvin at the National Foreign Trade Council, a leading U.S. business group.

“The vast majority of countries who understand the importance of modernising trade rules and keeping their promises will have to pick up the pieces and figure out how to move forward.”

Some nations have already discussed a plan to exclude India from the agreement and push ahead regardless, and the International Chamber of Commerce urged officials to “make it happen.”

“Our message is clear. Get back to the table, save this deal and get the multilateral trade agenda back on the road to completion sooner rather than later,” ICC Secretary General John Danilovich said.

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry, on a visit to New Delhi, had earlier said he was hopeful that differences between India and much of the rest of the world could be resolved.

But after Azevedo’s speech, U.S. Ambassador to the WTO Michael Punke was downbeat. “We’re obviously sad and disappointed that a very small handful of countries were unwilling to keep their commitments from the December conference in Bali, and we agree with the Director-General that that action has put this institution on very uncertain new ground,” Punke told reporters.

India had insisted that, in exchange for signing the trade facilitation agreement, it must see more progress on a parallel pact giving it more freedom to subsidise and stockpile food grains than is allowed by WTO rules. It got support from Cuba, Venezuela and Bolivia.

India’s new nationalist government has insisted that a permanent agreement on its subsidised food stockpiling must be in place at the same time as the trade facilitation deal, well ahead of a 2017 target set last December in Bali.

Kerry, whose visit to India was aimed at revitalising bilateral ties but was overshadowed by the standoff, said the United States understood India’s position that it needs to provide food security for its poor but India would lose out if it refused to maintained its veto.

DEAL WITHOUT INDIA?

Diplomats say India could technically attract a trade dispute if it caused the deal to collapse, although nobody wanted to threaten legal action at this stage. The summer break will give diplomats time to mull options, including moving ahead without India.

Technical details would still have to be ironed out, but there was a “credible core group” that would be ready to start talking about a such a deal in September, a source involved in the discussions said.

“What began as a murmur has become a much more active discussion in Geneva and I think that there are a lot of members in town right now that have reached the reluctant conclusion that that may be the only way to go,” he said.

An Australian trade official with knowledge of the talks said a group of countries including the United States, European Union, Australia, Japan, Canada and Norway began discussing the possibility in Geneva on Wednesday afternoon.

New Delhi cannot be deliberately excluded, since that would mean other countries slowing down containers destined for India, but if it becomes a “free-rider” it will add another nail in the coffin of attempts to hammer out global trade reform. Trade diplomats had previously said they were reluctant to consider the idea of the all-but-India option, but momentum behind the trade facilitation pace means it may be hard to stop.

Many countries, including China and Brazil, have already notified the WTO of steps they plan to take to implement the customs accord immediately.

Other nations have begun bringing the rules into domestic law, and the WTO has set up a funding mechanism to assist. But WTO head Azevedo said he feared that while major economies had options open to them, the poorest would be left behind.

“If the system fails to function properly then the smallest nations will be the biggest losers,” he said. “It would be a tragic outcome for those economies — and therefore a tragic outcome for us all.”


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Nine reasons why India's WTO veto shocked the world
 
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India's concerns

1.India is maintaining its bullheaded approach because of two issues, food subsidies and stockpiling of food grains.

2.India at present is running a massive food procurement programmes by providing minimum supporting price to the farmers and giving subsidised food to lakhs of BPL families through its public distribution system (PDS).

3.The new WTO agreement limits the value of food subsidies at 10 percent of the total food grain production. India is flexing muscle on the issue because subsidies have been calculated by WTO taking 1986 as base year into account which will largely affect food procurement programme through MSP.

4.India is raising its concerns by saying that while US is providing 120 billion as agriculture subsidy then why India can't give even one tenth (USD 12 billion) to their farmers.

5. India which is home to about 25 percent of the world's hungry, has a viewpoint that it is a Government's responsibility and duty to ensure availability of proper food to its people

6.Moreover, India's food programme is largely domestic so it doesn't distort global food trade. The Indian sources say that once the TFA will be implemented it will be difficult to bargain on the food subsidy thing and that is why India has this brazen attitude.

Read more at: Why Modi Government is up in arms against WTO's Trade Facilitation Agreement - News Oneindia

India is not against TFA. What it just wants is to safeguard its own interest in quick time. Most likely things will be sorted out within December.
 
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NEW DELHI: In the clearest articulation of India's position on the WTO standoff, from the highest level, PM Narendra Modi on Friday forcefully told visiting US secretary of state John Kerry that the first responsibility of his government was to the poorest people of the country.

This was after Kerry told Modi that India's position on the issue was sending confusing signals to the international community. Kerry's meeting with Modi saw the two leaders elaborating on their respective positions on the trade facilitation agreement (TFA) versus food subsidy in a forceful manner — even though officials insisted there was no spat — with Modi insisting that the interest of the poor was paramount.

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"I am more concerned about the small Indian farmer, even though I believe the trade facilitation agreement is good for India," Modi said. The PM was responding to Kerry who told him the failure to get a WTO deal "undermines" Modi's message of India being open for business. The India-US strategic dialogue has been clouded by the Indian blockade of the trade facilitation agreement, as the talks failed in Geneva on Thursday night.

"The first responsibility of my government is to the poorest people of the country. While we don't oppose the agreement, we believe that the needs of those living on the margins of society, not just in India but elsewhere too, have to be addressed," Modi told Kerry in the meeting.

Modi also focused on security, telling Kerry he wanted to unite South Asia into an integrated economic community. But more important, Modi reaffirmed India's decision to continue assistance to Afghanistan.


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Using the opportunity of the WTO discussion, the PM "emphasized the need for developed countries to understand the challenges of poverty in developing countries and their governments' responsibilities in addressing them, when discussions take place in international forums", a PMO statement said. Modi said Indian concerns applied both to the WTO and climate change negotiations where developing countries' interests would have to be met.

Modi told Kerry that US farm sizes could not be compared to Indian marginal farmers and therefore a solution had to be found for the food security problem. India has said food security discussions should be held simultaneously with the TFA or food prices should reflect current prices.

READ ALSO: 9 reasons why India's WTO veto shocked the world

A background briefing by senior US officials said Kerry "made the comment that while we understand India's food security concerns, the trade facilitation agreement is one that will bring tremendous benefit to emerging economies and particularly to the world's poor, and India's actions, therefore, are not in keeping with the prime minister's vision, and urged that India work with the US to quickly come up with next steps that would allow this to be brought back into focus, that it is not in India's interest for a solution to be made that does not include India".

At the meeting with Kerry, Modi was accompanied by his national security team, including foreign minister Sushma Swaraj, NSA Ajit Doval, foreign secretary Sujatha Singh and the Indian ambassador to the US.

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The Indian side has not been particularly impressed by the quality of dialogue with the US. Apart from the exhausting laundry list of things that the two nations do, which many felt was completely unnecessary, there was a feeling on the Indian side that the US was not completely invested, which was reflected in Kerry's inattention during his meeting with Swaraj, where he kept leaving to take phone calls.

WTO standoff: First responsibility towards India's poor, Modi tells Kerry - The Times of India


Now This is the simple reason for India' stand on this issue...... And let me tell you, I am happy with our PM, especially when India is taking a stand which helps the poor people of india...... Look at the hypocrisy of west, They always taunt india with reports suggesting more than half of the poor lives in India, If they believe their own reports, they should understand India's position on this issue.....

This also gives you an idea of the relationship between India and US, it doesn't look good at all....
 
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Nine reasons why India's WTO veto shocked the world

(Reuters) - India's tough diplomacy blocked a landmark world trade treaty late on Thursday, despite last-ditch talks to rescue what would have been the first global trade reform since the creation of the World Trade Organization 19 years ago.

Trade diplomats in Geneva have said they are "flabbergasted", "astonished" and "dismayed" and described India's position as "hostage-taking" and "suicidal". Here are nine reasons why they say India's stance made no sense.

1. India has been a vocal backer of world trade reform. It has criticised the small clubs of countries, led by the United States and European Union, that lost patience with the slow pace of global reforms and started to discuss faster liberalising of trade in certain areas, such as services and information technology products. India is not in any of these groups. But Thursday's veto is likely to give them even more momentum as hope of a global trade pact, long in doubt, appears to be over.

2. India's veto may be the beginning of the end for the WTO. Trade experts say that if the WTO's 20-year-old rulebook does not evolve, more and more trade will be governed by new regional agreements such as the Trans-Pacific Partnership, which will have their own rules and systems of resolving disputes. That could lead to a fragmented world of separate trade blocs.

3. India's new government was widely seen as being pro-business. And yet it blocked a deal on "trade facilitation", a worldwide streamlining of customs rules that would cut container handling times, guarantee standard procedures for getting goods to and from their destinations and kill off vast amounts of paperwork at borders around the world. Some estimates said it would add $1 trillion to the world economy as well as 21 million jobs, 18 million of them in developing countries.

4. Nobody else was negotiating. Thursday's meeting was simply supposed to formally adopt the final trade negotiation text into the WTO rulebook, following its agreement by ministers at a meeting in Bali last December. India's then Trade Minister Anand Sharma hailed the Bali deal as a landmark in the history of the WTO. "We were able to arrive at a balanced outcome which secures our supreme national interest," Sharma said at the time. India did not hint at any further objection until days before it wielded its veto, and even then it made no concrete demands until the WTO meeting to adopt the new rules was in progress.

5. India did not object to the deal it vetoed. Its objections were unconnected to trade facilitation. It blocked the trade facilitation deal to try to get what it wanted on something else: food security.

6. India had already got what it wanted on food security. At Bali, it forced a big concession from the United States and European Union, which initially strongly opposed its demands, but agreed that India could stockpile food at subsidised prices, reversing the trend of trying to reduce and remove trade-distorting food subsidies globally. The arrangement was temporary, but the WTO agreed to work towards a permanent solution within four years, by the end of 2017.

7. India's demands reversed its previous position. India blocked the trade facilitation deal because it wanted the WTO to move to a permanent solution more quickly than the four-year timeline. But diplomats say that India was offered a two-year timeframe before Bali but it insisted on four.

8. India's veto could put it in legal danger. As part of the Bali deal, India won a pledge that nobody would bring a trade dispute to challenge its food stockpiling programme, which is widely thought to have broken the WTO rules. However, diplomats say that Bali was a "package" of 10 agreements, and the only legally binding part was trade facilitation. If that fails, the package unravels, and India may lose its protection.

9. India was isolated. Cuba, Venezuela and Bolivia voiced support, but diplomats say other big developing countries such as Russia, China and Brazil, as well as India's neighbour Pakistan, were among the chief opponents of its veto. Poorer countries stand to lose most, WTO chief Roberto Azevedo told the WTO meeting after the deal collapsed. "They’re the ones with fewer options, who are at risk of being left behind. They’re the ones that may no longer have a seat at the table."

(Reporting by Tom Miles; Editing by Clarence Fernandez)


Nine reasons why India's WTO veto shocked the world| Reuters


Kerry meets Jaitley, discusses WTO impasse

US Secretary of State John Kerry on Thursday met Union Finance Minister Arun Jaitley and discussed India’s stance on the ongoing WTO’s Trade Facilitation Agreement talks which are set to conclude at Geneva later in the day.

Mr. Kerry was accompanied by U.S. Commerce Secretary Penny Pritzker who has already expressed disappointment over India’s stand at the ongoing TFA negotiations for easing customs rule for free movement of goods.

“We had a good discussion. India is a big market. We also had discussion on issues related to WTO,” an official privy to the meeting said.

India has been maintaining that it will not ratify the TFA, which is dear to the developed world, until a permanent solution is found on the issue of public stock holding for food security purposes.

The TFA, which aims at simplifying customs procedure, increasing transparency and reducing transactions cost, is being pushed by the U.S. and others as they seek to bolster their sagging economies through an unhindered international trade by way of uniform and easy procedures at customs.

India is seeking a guarantee on food security for its hundreds of millions of poor as a pre-condition for the passage of the pact.

The agreement, drafted during a ministerial at the Indonesian resort town of Bali last December, has to be sealed by July 31.

On Wednesday, Ms. Pritzker said she was “hopeful that even in the last remaining days India might find a way to come to a solution on this issue”.

India’s demands block $1 trillion WTO deal on customs rules

By David Brunnstrom and Tom Miles

NEW DELHI/GENEVA (Reuters) – The World Trade Organization failed on Thursday to reach a deal to standardise customs rules, which would have been the first global trade reform in two decades but was blocked by India’s demands for concessions on agricultural stockpiling. “We have not been able to find a solution that would allow us to bridge that gap,” WTO Director-General Roberto Azevedo told trade diplomats in Geneva just two hours before the final deadline for a deal.

“Of course it is true that everything remains in play until midnight, but at present there is no workable solution on the table, and I have no indication that one will be forthcoming.”

The deadline passed without a breakthrough. WTO ministers had already agreed the global reform of customs procedures known as “trade facilitation” last December, but it needed to be put into the WTO rule book by July 31.

Most diplomats saw that as rubber-stamping a unique success in the WTO’s 19 year history, which according to some estimates would add $1 trillion (£592.22 billion) and 21 million jobs to the world economy, so they were shocked when India unveiled its veto.

Trade experts say Thursday’s failure is likely to end the era of trying to cobble together global trade agreements and to accelerate efforts by smaller groups of like-minded nations to liberalise trade among themselves. India has been vocal in opposing such moves, making its veto even more surprising.

“Today’s developments suggest that there is little hope for truly global trade talks to take place,” said Jake Colvin at the National Foreign Trade Council, a leading U.S. business group.

“The vast majority of countries who understand the importance of modernising trade rules and keeping their promises will have to pick up the pieces and figure out how to move forward.”

Some nations have already discussed a plan to exclude India from the agreement and push ahead regardless, and the International Chamber of Commerce urged officials to “make it happen.”

“Our message is clear. Get back to the table, save this deal and get the multilateral trade agenda back on the road to completion sooner rather than later,” ICC Secretary General John Danilovich said.

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry, on a visit to New Delhi, had earlier said he was hopeful that differences between India and much of the rest of the world could be resolved.

But after Azevedo’s speech, U.S. Ambassador to the WTO Michael Punke was downbeat. “We’re obviously sad and disappointed that a very small handful of countries were unwilling to keep their commitments from the December conference in Bali, and we agree with the Director-General that that action has put this institution on very uncertain new ground,” Punke told reporters.

India had insisted that, in exchange for signing the trade facilitation agreement, it must see more progress on a parallel pact giving it more freedom to subsidise and stockpile food grains than is allowed by WTO rules. It got support from Cuba, Venezuela and Bolivia.

India’s new nationalist government has insisted that a permanent agreement on its subsidised food stockpiling must be in place at the same time as the trade facilitation deal, well ahead of a 2017 target set last December in Bali.

Kerry, whose visit to India was aimed at revitalising bilateral ties but was overshadowed by the standoff, said the United States understood India’s position that it needs to provide food security for its poor but India would lose out if it refused to maintained its veto.

DEAL WITHOUT INDIA?

Diplomats say India could technically attract a trade dispute if it caused the deal to collapse, although nobody wanted to threaten legal action at this stage. The summer break will give diplomats time to mull options, including moving ahead without India.

Technical details would still have to be ironed out, but there was a “credible core group” that would be ready to start talking about a such a deal in September, a source involved in the discussions said.

“What began as a murmur has become a much more active discussion in Geneva and I think that there are a lot of members in town right now that have reached the reluctant conclusion that that may be the only way to go,” he said.

An Australian trade official with knowledge of the talks said a group of countries including the United States, European Union, Australia, Japan, Canada and Norway began discussing the possibility in Geneva on Wednesday afternoon.

New Delhi cannot be deliberately excluded, since that would mean other countries slowing down containers destined for India, but if it becomes a “free-rider” it will add another nail in the coffin of attempts to hammer out global trade reform. Trade diplomats had previously said they were reluctant to consider the idea of the all-but-India option, but momentum behind the trade facilitation pace means it may be hard to stop.

Many countries, including China and Brazil, have already notified the WTO of steps they plan to take to implement the customs accord immediately.

Other nations have begun bringing the rules into domestic law, and the WTO has set up a funding mechanism to assist. But WTO head Azevedo said he feared that while major economies had options open to them, the poorest would be left behind.

“If the system fails to function properly then the smallest nations will be the biggest losers,” he said. “It would be a tragic outcome for those economies — and therefore a tragic outcome for us all.”


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Nine reasons why India's WTO veto shocked the world

India is standing tough because for the first time due to Narendra Modi it wants the welfare of its people first, it is more concerned about feeding its poor people first than worry about sending wrong signals or be seen as improper behavior to other nations.
WTO deals doesn't allow food subsidy and stockpile of foods more than 10%, while our food subsidy schemes need more than 10% food stockpiles.
If we don't do that, India won't have food to feed its poor ,can be blackmailed by other nations in case of emergencies.

We need to secure our primary interest first feeding our people ,everything comes later.
India is not against TFA it only wants to stockpile food which it needs more than 10% allowed by WTO rules.
Developed countries don't have to go through the travails of a developing nation with a huge population like ours.
Their populations are quite small compared to their landmasses.

USA,EU and other developed nations don't want more than 10% stockpiling of foods,do we feed our people first or worry about pleasing those countries?
While the developed nations give reports and worry about the conditions of the poor in India, but won't allow India to feed its poor,see the hypocrisy of the developed nations.

The same sort of thing happened in Climate summit, earlier Developed nations wanted strict rules carbon footprint ,taxes etc.They were the ones who till 50 years ago were the worst pollutants of the planet.Now that they are developed they want same set of rules for all
India, China stood against it because of their hypocrisy they don't want developing nations to develop.
 
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Just kick India out and do the agreement. All the major economies agree with the agreement. India is irrelevant. A corrupt country stopping the progress of others. Why should the rest of the world that want to advance trade be held hostage by only one backward country. No wonder half the Indian population defecates in the open. Sums up that country perfectly. If these guys stopped worshipping fake gods and started to develop economically they would be able to feed their children that starve to death, build some toilets and improve the literacy of the people. Just look at the state of their economy and society in general. No progress but stopping the progress of others.

Your post is reported.
And about isolating India.Somenations already proposed such an idea.But some others block it that a deal without India would be meaningless since we have second largest population.Our first priority is our people.then only issue likes international commitment.
 
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It would be difficult to move ahead without India. One can not imagine that a country that until a short time ago was responsible for serious contribution in global growth can be easily over-looked.

Not having India would raise questions about WTO on the whole.

I am not at all well-versed in details of Food security issues and the relevant benchmarks. I can not say whether or not GOI is being sincere or facetious (for some hidden motive). Perhaps BJP government sees more value in developing South Asian trade bloc as opposed to WTO. The OP's posted article did mention that weakening of WTO would mean strengthening of regional trading blocs and partnerships. Now that would make things really interesting.
 
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Yeah,we heard it all,Our first priority is our people, not pleasing someone as a new government or sending wrong signals to other nations.
What good is this government if it didnt care about its population first?
The food price shock came in 2008, because USA was producing more biofuels from corn based crop and turning lands to suit such production of biofuel, they wanted their crops producing oil,Instead of producing food.
Most of Indians are Vegetarians, which is a sustainable cycle

Bush Comment on Food Crisis Brings Anger, Ridicule in India


Why I’ve given up eating beef - Virgin.com
He also linked to a blog post claiming that cutting out beef could reduce your carbon footprint 'more than giving up cars'.

So..As the population grows either they have to get new landmasses or make colonies in other inhabitable planets to grow meat or be vegetarian.


Why are you angry about our gods or fake gods, i thought you were an atheist chinese.:D
Seriously, why blame everything on our gods?

We will see how far this WTO deal will go without including India, Go ahead make this deal removing INDIA.Make it happen,we are not scared with such threats.GO AHEAD DO IT! I DARE YOU!
 
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We will produce the food we want to eat... and we will decide where and at what price we sell our food...

if USA wants to sell food to its own people, then produce its own.. stay away from our agriculture.. stupid USA.
 
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We don't want to go through Artificial famine,
We will produce the food we want to eat... and we will decide where and at what price we sell our food...

if USA wants to sell food to its own people, then produce its own.. stay away from our agriculture.. stupid USA.
Exactly, USA is the one to waste food a lot and a single US familys carbon footprint is more than 3 asian homes.
Who is the worst polluter of this world?, USA!
And it is the same nation which gives sermons to others about REDUCING THEIR CARBON FOOTPRINT AND COMPLAINS ABOUT DEVELOPING COUNTRIES EATING MORE.
Prosperity in India causing food crisis: Bush
See the American HYPOCRISY!
 
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Yeah,we heard it all,Our first priority is our people, not pleasing someone as a new government sending wrong signals to other nations.
What good is this government if it didnt care about its population first?
The food price shock came in 2008, because USA was producing more biofuels from corn based crop and turning lands to suit such production of biofuel, they wanted it their crops producing oil,Instead of producing food.
Most of Indians are Vegetarians, which is a sustainable cycle

Bush Comment on Food Crisis Brings Anger, Ridicule in India


Why I’ve given up eating beef - Virgin.com
He also linked to a blog post claiming that cutting out beef could reduce your carbon footprint 'more than giving up cars'.

So..As the population grows either they have to get new landmasses or make colonies in other inhabitable planets to grow meat or be vegetarian.


Why are you angry about our gods or fake gods, i thought you were an atheist chinese.:D
Seriously, why blame everything on our gods?

We will see how far this WTO deal will go without including India, Go ahead make this deal removing INDIA.Make it happen,we are not scared with such threats.GO AHEAD DO IT! I DARE YOU!

The most important economies already agree to the deal, so countries will go ahead with the deal without India. The world economy loses nothing by excluding India. Excluding India is actually removing a big burden to the progress of free trade because Indians are generally anti-business with red tape and bureaucracy. Countries that want to advance like China, US, EU don't want to get held up by anti-business countries like India.

I can see by these kind of anti-business actions why India is behind China economically. This is why India won't touch China this century.

We don't want to go through Artificial famine,

Exactly, USA is the one to waste food a lot and a single US familys carbon footprint is more than 3 asian homes.
Who is the worst polluter of this world?, USA!
And it is the same nation which gives sermons to others about REDUCING THEIR CARBON FOOTPRINT AND COMPLAINS ABOUT DEVELOPING COUNTRIES EATING MORE.
Prosperity in India causing food crisis: Bush
See the American HYPOCRISY!

US has the most developed economy, they understand how to develop an economy. India has everything to learn from US. US is an agricultural superpower. India lecturing anyone on economics is laughable but India lecturing US on economics is beyond a joke.

To develop an industry you need to remove the red tape and let the market determine how the industry develops. India still things government is the answer. Even the CPC has said the market will play a 'decisive' role.

It would be difficult to move ahead without India. One can not imagine that a country that until a short time ago was responsible for serious contribution in global growth can be easily over-looked.

Not having India would raise questions about WTO on the whole.

I am not at all well-versed in details of Food security issues and the relevant benchmarks. I can not say whether or not GOI is being sincere or facetious (for some hidden motive). Perhaps BJP government sees more value in developing South Asian trade bloc as opposed to WTO. The OP's posted article did mention that weakening of WTO would mean strengthening of regional trading blocs and partnerships. Now that would make things really interesting.

Destroying the WTO will be a disaster for everyone. Regional blocs cannot replace the global trading architecture developed by the WTO.
 
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The most important economies already agree to the deal, so countries will go ahead with the deal without India. The world economy loses nothing by excluding India. Excluding India is actually removing a big burden to the progress of free trade because Indians are generally anti-business with red tape and bureaucracy. Countries that want to advance like China, US, EU don't want to get held up by anti-business countries like India.

I can see by these kind of anti-business actions why India is behind China economically. This is why India won't touch China this century.



US has the most developed economy, they understand how to develop an economy. India has everything to learn from US. US is an agricultural superpower. India lecturing anyone on economics is laughable but India lecturing US on economics is beyond a joke.

To develop an industry you need to remove the red tape and let the market determine how the industry develops. India still things government is the answer. Even the CPC has said the market will play a 'decisive' role.



Destroying the WTO will be a disaster for everyone. Regional blocs cannot replace the global trading architecture developed by the WTO.
ALL I SAID WAS THEN GO AHEAD MAKE THE DEAL,WHY INCLUDE US?We only care about our population first!
You were already decided against us, go ahead China,US,EU and others.
Please we would welcome that!
It remains to be seen if CCP will still remain in power in china, with the onslaught of Christianity?
LoL first get out of that mess,
I will give you a suggestion if you want to keep your nation intact and your old ways same?
LOOK BACK!
Give Buddhism a chance you will be Immune to Any other foreign religion.Taoism is Ok too.
 
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The most important economies already agree to the deal, so countries will go ahead with the deal without India. The world economy loses nothing by excluding India. Excluding India is actually removing a big burden to the progress of free trade because Indians are generally anti-business with red tape and bureaucracy. Countries that want to advance like China, US, EU don't want to get held up by anti-business countries like India.

I can see by these kind of anti-business actions why India is behind China economically. This is why India won't touch China this century.



US has the most developed economy, they understand how to develop an economy. India has everything to learn from US. US is an agricultural superpower. India lecturing anyone on economics is laughable but India lecturing US on economics is beyond a joke.

To develop an industry you need to remove the red tape and let the market determine how the industry develops. India still things government is the answer. Even the CPC has said the market will play a 'decisive' role.



Destroying the WTO will be a disaster for everyone. Regional blocs cannot replace the global trading architecture developed by the WTO.

Then let them go ahead mr without India.We dont care that
.Our first priority is our people.You can take it or leave it.
 
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