India Took a Shocking 33 Years to Develop a Jet Fighter (And It’s Still Not Ready for Combat)

[Indian_gorkha]

Seriously? Responding to the house troll???

My bad. Won't do it again. Ignore list used.

 

[Windjammer]

Yeah right- number of qualified aerospace vendors is non sense for an uninformed troll.

Tejas is in service sweetie. Now why don't you develop a freaking basic trainer in your country ?

Well, baby doll, being a population of over a billion, you may have the head count but when it comes to delivering the goods, you seem to be going in reverse gear, although in 50s and 60s, you had such projects as Kiran Mk-1 & Mk-2, HF-24 and later Sitara IJT.....but now instead of building on your past experience, forget the 33 year old Tejas, you are forced to having to purchase even the PC-7 which first flew in 1966 not to mention Hawk..... on the contrary we never had the nucleolus of an aircraft industry till late 70s......now we are either manufacturing or co-producing our own basic and IJT and fighter jets and even exporting them to several countries. All one can say is R.I.P Baldev Singh, whose death was in vain as things are no better now......

 

[gslv mk3]

More than a billion people and still the largest importer of arms? That's even more tragic.

Don't worry about us- your 'deeper than the oceans' friends were leading that list long ago. Now they aren't. We will follow the same path.

 

[Windjammer]

Well your eyes only work when it is in trailer. They won't work to watch the other testing videos of it flying at various locations, in various temperatures and doing weapon tests.

Dude, even vintage machines from the first world war fly in air shows.
Anyways, it's your country fellows who keep dragging the JF-17 in comparison.... which is operational in squadron service and flying combat missions, where as Tejas is barely entering service,
Morons who call me a troll don't have a leg to stand on so it's in their nature to talk tripe.

 

[Khanate]

Don't worry about us- your 'deeper than the oceans' friends were leading that list long ago. Now they aren't. We will follow the same path.

Apple and oranges.

China only had to bare this shame for a mere four years (2005 — 2009). Meanwhile, this is India's sixth year (2010 — now) with more shameful years to follow.

Next time, we must stop developing our own weapons or anything related to defence.

We should buy drones from Israel and name it Baburaq. We should scrape Tejas and buy gripen and name it FF-17(fucking fighter).
We must rename our T-90s to Al-Bhisma.

Or you can do a paint job, mount the 'Fighter Jet' on a truck and call it 'Tejas' .

 

[gslv mk3]

Well, baby doll, being a population of over a billion, you may have the head count but when it comes to delivering the goods, you seem to be going in reverse gear, although in 50s and 60s, you had such projects as Kiran Mk-1 & Mk-2, HF-24 and later Sitara IJT.....but now instead of building on your past experience, forget the 33 year old Tejas, you are forced to having to purchase even the PC-7 which first flew in 1966 not to mention Hawk..... on the contrary we never had the nucleolus of an aircraft industry till late 70s......now we are either manufacturing or co-producing our own basic and IJT and fighter jets and even exporting them to several countries. All one can say is R.I.P Baldev Singh, whose death was in vain as things are no better now......

Oh, so you agree that we had indigenous projects back in the 60s & 70s. License manufacture of trainers or fighters is what we did in the 70s & we want to create our own aerospace ecosystem slowly moving up the value chain.

You don't need to worry about us, as our aerospace industry is in revival with the development & production of:

LCA Tejas (20 Mk1 + 80 Mk1A confirm orders)
HAL LUH (187 projected)
HTT 40 (68 ordered as first tranche, more to follow)
HAL Dhruv (~30 produced per year)
HAL LCH (65 for IAF + 117 for Army)

The IJT Sitara will also be ordered as it has passed the Spin tests- the death of Sqn. Ldr. Baldev Singh will not go in vain

And the License production of

Su 30 MKI (till 2020)
Ka 226T (by HAL)
CASA C-295 (By Tata)
AH 64 Apache (fuselage being produced by Tata)

And some attempts with propulsion including

Non afterburning Kaveri for Ghatak UAV
HAL HTSE 1200 (1200 kW)
HAL HTFE 25 (25kN)
200 HP heavy fuel engine for Rustom II

And if you wan't to, you can look into the production of components by firms like TASL & Aeques who are Tier 1 suppliers to OEMs like Boeing & Airbus.

http://www.tataadvancedsystems.com/static.php?id=6

Apple and oranges.

China only had to bare this shame for a mere four years (2005 — 2009). Meanwhile, this is India's sixth year (2010 — now) with more shameful years to follow.

Hey buddy, thanks for that information. I never knew that they were the world's largest arms importer as recently as 2009.

Or you can do a paint job, mount the 'Fighter Jet' on a truck and call it 'Tejas' .

Meh, buddy your country can't even produce 100% of the fuselage of JF 17. Or even manufacture a truck with 90% localization.

 

[Khanate]

Hey buddy, thanks for that information. I never knew that they were the world's largest arms importer as recently as 2009.

Only to have India become #1 arms importer of the world

Meh, buddy your country can't even produce 100% of the fuselage of JF 17. Or even manufacture a truck with 90% localization.

Let me know when India is the #2 arms importer of the world.

 

[gslv mk3]

Only to have India become #1 arms importer of the world

Thanks for that. Don't worry about us too much, worry about that country with 5 qualified aerospace vendors.

 

[Khanate]

Thanks for that. Don't worry about us too much, worry about that country with 5 qualified aerospace vendors.

Don't mention it.

You deserve balloons because you worked so hard to get to #1.

 

[gslv mk3]

Don't mention it.

You deserve balloons because you worked so hard to get to #1.

Quite amazing, aint it ? We can afford all this by spending less than 7%of our Budget. Meanwhile in Pakistan...

 

[Khanate]

Quite amazing, aint it ? We can afford all this by spending less than 7%of our Budget. Meanwhile in Pakistan...

To boot every Indians has an indoor toilet.

Job well done, I say!

 

[gslv mk3]

To boot every Indians has an indoor toilet.

Care about wwhat goes in, .ie, the malnutrition rates in Pakistan ?

 

[Khanate]

Care about wwhat goes in, .ie, the malnutrition rates in Pakistan ?

Malnutrition? India #1 (2015), again.

Source: Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations

 

[gslv mk3]

Malnutrition? India #1 (2015), again.

Source: Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations

Really ?
Prevalence of undernourishment (% of population)

India 15%, Pakistan 22%

 

[Khanate]

Really ?
Prevalence of undernourishment (% of population)

India 15%, Pakistan 22%

Of course, sunshine.

If you can't be bothered to read the report then,

Read: India tops world hunger list with 194 million people (The Hindu)


And the biggest problem with using % is highlighted by the dataset itself:

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From a policy and program standpoint, this measure has its limits. First, food insecurity exists even where food availability is not a problem because of inadequate access of poor households to food. Second, food insecurity is an individual or household phenomenon, and the average food available to each person, even corrected for possible effects of low income, is not a good predictor of food insecurity among the population. And third, nutrition security is determined not only by food security but also by the quality of care of mothers and children and the quality of the household's health environment (Smith and Haddad 2000).

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Learn to use indicators properly.

As I said, India #1.