India taking the International Pressure ?

[wiseone2]

Hi,

It is this attitude that has created a problem for pakistan----and you are not the only one----it is the same pakistani mindset as of yours----.

The problem here is---you are already gone on back foot by repeating those accusation---( this was just an example ).

Here is how to answer India---screw you----no conversation with you till you stop the killings of muslims in india---and allow the eating of meat----.

There is NO REASON FOR PAKISTAN TO TALK TO INDIA------.

Pakistan is the one that wants talks with India. India is fine with status quo

 

[third eye]

1. are you serious ? handing them to India ? will you handover Samjhota express Criminals to Pakistan ? and you are recently harboring BLA terrorist in India ..

Only after India hands over Modi for the genocide of Muslims in Gujarat !!

David Headly has just been pardoned by a Mumbai court . He is serving 35 years in US prison & has turned approver.

The beans he will spill on Mumbai attack will be interesting & eye opening for the world.

Thats when ' handing overs' will take center stage.

 

[MilSpec]

Stop Hindu Terrorism.

Yupp all the terrorists blowing up everything around the world are Hindus for sure.... wait.

 

[[Bregs]]

why the talks were stopped with pakistan ? because of mumbai terror attacks and inability of pak to punish them. now nothing has changed on ground and indian govt has suddenly opened all channels of discussions so there seems to be pressure working as nothing will come out of this discussions or talks at this point of time

 

[SpArK]

Stop Hindu Terrorism.

It cant be stopped.

But can be paused and played in slow motion.

 

[rockstar08]

How many Muslims were killed in India compared to Pakistan.... And who made you caretaker of Indian Muslims.... you do realize Indian Muslims by staying in India rejected the founding principal of Pakistan, and then again a few years down the line so did the Bangladeshis. Last time I checked there is no restriction on meat, but on Cow Slaughter which is mandated by individual states as they please. May be time to learn the difference.

look you can not compare the terrorism in Pakistan with the Occupation of Kashmir , Taliban are not just enemies of Pakistan but they are threat for world peace .. and its Pakistan who suffer the most from this monster ..
plus its not hidden that how your country is been funding TTP and BLA ..
Indian Muslim rejecting the foundation of Pakistan its their problem , My entire family migrated to Pakistan , but some of my own Relatives chose to stay ..
but you see how Muslims are been killed for Eating meat ? or slaughtering Cow , you own Muslims ? so why cant you tolerate their decision to Eat meat ?
stop acting like you are Tolerant nation which you are not ..
and for Bangladesh , it will never work anyway , sooner or Later the West Pakistan will get separated from East Pakistan..
cause we have India in between with 10 times bigger hostile army ..

 

[SrNair]

International pressure ?I dont think so .
Reasons are several.
It was the US that spear head all those moral high engagement for Pakistan till last decade .It was them with their western allies that target us with unwanted statements about Kashmir.
Now US and entire world is too cautious and they cant provoke India.No matter what .Not even Chinese .
I think there is some plan is working meticulously for our own advantage

 

[rockstar08]

International pressure ?I dont think so .

Janaab the K issue is back on table ..
what happen to Stubborn Indian stance that , no talks on Kashmir ?

 

[utraash]

Stop Hindu Terrorism.

There is no Hindu terrorism however world world is extremely apprehensive about logical link between terrorism n green cult .....

Ontopic
I don't see India succumbing to any pressure from outside....

Hi,

Thank you---that is why---fight fire with fire----no reason to talk to india---no prefered nation----no trade route thru pakistan----.

Stop killing muslims in india and kashmir----let everyone eat beef and then we will think of coming to peace talk table if there is a need.

First part of your post was having some conspicuous reason but second part sounds like "UMMAH Cause" has taken one more ideological toll.....
What Indian Muslim has got to with Pakistanis ?

 

[MilSpec]

look you can not compare the terrorism in Pakistan with the Occupation of Kashmir ,

you cant? both use Ak47's, RPG's, IED's and suide bombing as modus operandi. Some of the fighters actually work for both groups, Ilyaas Kashmiri was a prime example.

Taliban are not just enemies of Pakistan but they are threat for world peace .. and its Pakistan who suffer the most from this monster ..

Not untill the WoT began, Pakistan was actively arming and propping taliban against the Najibullah Govt, and one of the few Govt's that recognised the Taliban government.

plus its not hidden that how your country is been funding TTP and BLA ..

Not a single shred of evidence...

Indian Muslim rejecting the foundation of Pakistan its their problem , My entire family migrated to Pakistan , but some of my own Relatives chose to stay ..

Actually, it is the failure of entire premise of constituting the state pf Pakistan.

but you see how Muslims are been killed for Eating meat ? or slaughtering Cow , you own Muslims ? so why cant you tolerate their decision to Eat meat ?

Stray incidences of fringe elements which resulted into a law and order situation, compare that to exodus of Hindu minority, forceful conversion of Hindu Girls, Blasphemy laws used to legally harrass Christians, Blowing up christian churches, Massacre of shia minorities, Massacre of Ahmedis, Massacres of hazaras. The beacon of tolerance in the region definitely is Pakistan, which constitutionally discriminates it's own population along the lines of religion.... Irrespective of how much you want to jump on the political bandwagon of India's opposition parties, If India goes through the worst and becomes the most intolerant version of itself, it will merely turn into another Pakistan. And that is the inherent reality of Pakistan due to the premise of it's inception.

stop acting like you are Tolerant nation which you are not ..

Let me know when Indian Muslims line up at Pakistani consulate to immigrate to Pakistan.

and for Bangladesh , it will never work anyway , sooner or Later the West Pakistan will get separated from East Pakistan..

So you are saying M.A Jinnah was foolish to constitute an east and west pakistan, and Zulfikar Ali Bhutto and ayub khan nexus was absolutely correct to not allow Mujibur Rahman to take charge although he had won majority in the elections.... that's a new one.

cause we have India in between with 10 times bigger hostile army ..

Which did not do anything until 1965 to cause any trouble to Pakistan, so much so that the borders were porus and there roads were open for people to travel without Visas.

 

[rockstar08]

you cant? both use Ak47's, RPG's, IED's and suide bombing as modus operandi. Some of the fighters actually work for both groups, Ilyaas Kashmiri was a prime example.

so anyone who use Ak's and RPG's are terrorist ? brilliant tomorrow go and say this to your forces who use Ak's and RPG's as well .. Kashmir is Occupied Territory , they have all the right to fight for it .. and majority of the Kashmiri's want either a separate nation or merge with Pakistan .. you can live in denial ..

Not untill the WoT began, Pakistan was actively arming and propping taliban against the Najibullah Govt, and one of the few Govt's that recognised the Taliban government.

really ? so what was Afghan War ? and you forget to mentioned Uncle Sam here
Its was CIA who funded the war the mujahadeen not Pakistan , we trained them to fight a illegal occupation ...
and if Afghans were terrorist to reclaim their land than Bhagat singh ,including all those who fight to free India are terrorist ..

Not a single shred of evidence...

LOL , again living in delusion ? Pakistan has repeated share evidence with UN and US ..
and Indian made weapons are recovered from Baluchistan and FATA .. and not to mentioned New Delhi giving shelter to BLA leader ..

Actually, it is the failure of entire premise of constituting the state pf Pakistan.

No not actually , looking at the condition of Muslims we Migrated Muslims think that Jinnah was right
at least we can freely eat meat in Pakistan or slaughter a cow without the fear of getting killed by Hindu extremist mob .

Stray incidences of fringe elements which resulted into a law and order situation, compare that to exodus of Hindu minority, forceful conversion of Hindu Girls, Blasphemy laws used to legally harrass Christians, Blowing up christian churches, Massacre of shia minorities, Massacre of Ahmedis, Massacres of hazaras. The beacon of tolerance in the region definitely is Pakistan, which constitutionally discriminates it's own population along the lines of religion.... Irrespective of how much you want to jump on the political bandwagon of India's opposition parties, If India goes through the worst and becomes the most intolerant version of itself, it will merely turn into another Pakistan. And that is the inherent reality of Pakistan due to the premise of it's inception.

all these things are done by Taliban whom we are fighting .. yes Fighting .. we did not make Fazullah Prime Minister of Pakistan , but your PM is convicted butcher in Pakistan maybe million of people support Taliban but in Indian millions support the Hindu Taliban as well .. so you think that you country is tolerant is a joke ..
Pakistan never claim to be perfect , as like Indian claim ..
at least we take a stand against a issue and we are fighting a full scale war on multiple fronts .. and as for you thousand of rape , Mass graves and illegal occupation is done by your army ..over decades ..
Pakistan despite the religious intolerance , we are still in process of a change , but even today or in 100 years people like Fazulllah or Modi will never rule Pakistan .. they will always remain in minority ..

Let me know when Indian Muslims line up at Pakistani consulate to immigrate to Pakistan.

Oh they wont , neither we want them
but last time i check it was Muslim who was talking about leaving India LOL
after people get killed for eating meat .. they can stay in India you can keep them

So you are saying M.A Jinnah was foolish to constitute an east and west pakistan, and Zulfikar Ali Bhutto and ayub khan nexus was absolutely correct to not allow Mujibur Rahman to take charge although he had won majority in the elections.... that's a new one.

Jinnah was wrong about India , he did not know that our neighbor will armed rebels and attack us .. and as for Bangladesh the geographic location of east and west Pakistan will never allow both parts of land to be intact as one country ... and as for what bhutto and Ayub did was not right , but it was not just about the majority huh ? lots of things were happening behind the curtains
Agertala Conspiracy , and so on

Which did not do anything until 1965 to cause any trouble to Pakistan, so much so that the borders were porus and there roads were open for people to travel without Visas.

Last i checked History , Indians Invaded Kashmir in 48 ? and in 65 we tried to retake the remaining Kashmir ..
If you never Take Kashmir by force , and give people their right to choose things would have been different , and both counties would be enjoying open border , trade routes , and much more

 

[MilSpec]

so anyone who use Ak's and RPG's are terrorist ? brilliant tomorrow go and say this to your forces who use Ak's and RPG's as well .. Kashmir is Occupied Territory , they have all the right to fight for it .. and majority of the Kashmiri's want either a separate nation or merge with Pakistan .. you can live in denial ..

Wow on comprehension? who killed Iyaas kashmiri, what was his background.

really ? so what was Afghan War ? and you forget to mentioned Uncle Sam here
Its was CIA who funded the war the mujahadeen not Pakistan , we trained them to fight a illegal occupation ...
and if Afghans were terrorist to reclaim their land than Bhagat singh ,including all those who fight to free India are terrorist ..

You might want to look up when Mullah omar started and how he came to power, there was no such thing as Taliban throughout the 90's... Taliban's main muscle during the kabul and Kandahar's seige were Hekymetyaar's war hardened forces and Pakistani military advisers along with cannon fodder from Jamiat Ulema-e-Islami (especially from Darul Uloom Haqqania in Akora Khattak ). Most of this happened at lightening speed within 94 and 96.

Some excerpts for you to ponder upon



"According to Zahid Hussain, in his book Frontline Pakistan, Lt. Gen. Hamid Gul and former Army chief General Mirza Aslam Beg were part of the 9 January 2001 Darul Uloom Haqqania Islamic conference held near Peshawar, which was also attended by 300 leaders representing various Islamic groups. The meeting declared it a religious duty of Muslims all over the world to protect theTaliban government, and the Saudi dissident Osama bin Laden it was hosting, whom they considered as a 'great Muslim warrior.'"


Lt.Gen Hamid Gul: He has acknowledged being a member of banned militant organisation Ummah Tameer-e-Nau. The United States government has included Hamid Gul's name in a list of 4 former ISI officers for inclusion in the list of international terrorists that was sent to UN Secretary General, but China refused

In July 2010, Wikileaks released over 92,000 documents related to the war in Afghanistan between 2004 and the end of 2009. In those documents Gul was accused of backing Taliban Insurgency against western forces to disrupt U.S. presence in Afghanistan

Human Rights Watch writes, "Pakistani aircraft assisted with troop rotations of Taliban forces during combat operations in late 2000 and ... senior members of Pakistan's intelligence agency and army were involved in planning military operations." Pakistan provided military equipment, recruiting assistance, training, and tactical advice.Officially Pakistan denied supporting the Taliban militarily.
Refworld | Crisis of Impunity - The Role of Pakistan, Russia, and Iran in Fueling the Civil War in Afghanistan

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/21/world/asia/21quetta.html?pagewanted=print&_r=0

Few observation Pakistan - Taliban links inferred

U.S. Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Mike Mullen in 2011 called the Haqqani network (the Afghan Taliban's most destructive element) a "veritable arm of Pakistan's ISI"

On February 8, 2009, U.S. commander of operations in Afghanistan General Stanley McChrystal and other officials said that the Taliban leadership was in Quetta, Pakistan,

In fall 2006, a leaked report by a British Defense Ministry think tank charged, "Indirectly Pakistan (through the ISI) has been supporting terrorism and extremism--whether in London on 7/7 [the July 2005 attacks on London's transit system], or in Afghanistan, or Iraq."

Numerous U.S. officials have also accused the ISI of supporting terrorist groups including the Afghan Taliban. U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates said "to a certain extent, they play both sides." Gates and others suggest the ISI maintains links with groups like the Afghan Taliban as a "strategic hedge" to help Islamabad gain influence in Kabul once U.S. troops exit the region.

From 2010, a report by a leading British institution also claimed that Pakistan's intelligence service still today has a strong link with the Taliban in Afghanistan. Published by theLondon School of Economics, the report said that Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency (ISI) has an "official policy" of support for the Taliban. It said the ISI provides funding and training for the Taliban, and that the agency has representatives on the so-called Quetta Shura, the Taliban's leadership council.

"Without a change in Pakistani behaviour it will be difficult if not impossible for international forces and the Afghan government to make progress against the insurgency." Afghan officials have long been suspicious of the ISI's role. Amrullah Saleh, the former director of Afghanistan's intelligence service, told Reuters that the ISI was "part of a landscape of destruction in this country"

LOL , again living in delusion ? Pakistan has repeated share evidence with UN and US ..
and Indian made weapons are recovered from Baluchistan and FATA .. and not to mentioned New Delhi giving shelter to BLA leader ..

LMAO please share with us Isas, tavors and SLR1A's recovered. just show me one Indian made weapon in baluchistan or fata.

No not actually , looking at the condition of Muslims we Migrated Muslims think that Jinnah was right
at least we can freely eat meat in Pakistan or slaughter a cow without the fear of getting killed by Hindu extremist mob

Instead you are being slaughtered by your own people, bravo..you can rejoice on fringe incidents but reality is still reality.

all these things are done by Taliban whom we are fighting ..

Sipahe e sahiba is taliban now? ok

yes Fighting .. we did not make Fazullah Prime Minister of Pakistan , but your PM is convicted butcher in Pakistan maybe million of people support Taliban but in Indian millions support the Hindu Taliban as well .. so you think that you country is tolerant is a joke ..

Look up what convicted means it might help your narrative. and the ideology you refer to as Hindu taliban is the Fringe element within RSS- which was the counter weight AIML... exact same ideology

Pakistan never claim to be perfect , as like Indian claim ..
at least we take a stand against a issue and we are fighting a full scale war on multiple fronts .. and as for you thousand of rape , Mass graves and illegal occupation is done by your army ..over decades ..
Pakistan despite the religious intolerance , we are still in process of a change , but even today or in 100 years people like Fazulllah or Modi will never rule Pakistan .. they will always remain in minority ..

Your entire criticism is base don Modi being the leade under whom there were riots. Let me remind you that your Quaid -e -Azam was directly responsible for Direct action day which resulted in thousands of deaths, your inception starts with communal violence.

Oh they wont , neither we want them
but last time i check it was Muslim who was talking about leaving India LOL
after people get killed for eating meat .. they can stay in India you can keep them

But then what will happen to bastion of Islam, and then why are you concerned with the fate of Indian muslims to begin with.

Jinnah was wrong about India , he did not know that our neighbor will armed rebels and attack us ..

According to you, was Jinnah right about anything? Did he plan that Pakistan will become an Islamic Theocracy ruled by dictators after dictators? You do realize that 1965 war was started by Pakistan, if in doubt look up history.

and as for Bangladesh the geographic location of east and west Pakistan will never allow both parts of land to be intact as one country ... and as for what bhutto and Ayub did was not right , but it was not just about the majority huh ? lots of things were happening behind the curtains
Agertala Conspiracy , and so on

and till 65 not a single shot was fired in anger, how did all that change? take a guess.

Last i checked History , Indians Invaded Kashmir in 48 ? and in 65 we tried to retake the remaining Kashmir ..
If you never Take Kashmir by force , and give people their right to choose things would have been different , and both counties would be enjoying open border , trade routes , and much more

Then you need to check the history, check who introduced force in the Princely state of Jammu and Kashmir.

 

[ito]

It is obvious that there is pressure from US and UK.

look you can not compare the terrorism in Pakistan with the Occupation of Kashmir , Taliban are not just enemies of Pakistan but they are threat for world peace .. and its Pakistan who suffer the most from this monster ..
plus its not hidden that how your country is been funding TTP and BLA ..
Indian Muslim rejecting the foundation of Pakistan its their problem , My entire family migrated to Pakistan , but some of my own Relatives chose to stay ..
but you see how Muslims are been killed for Eating meat ? or slaughtering Cow , you own Muslims ? so why cant you tolerate their decision to Eat meat ?
stop acting like you are Tolerant nation which you are not ..
and for Bangladesh , it will never work anyway , sooner or Later the West Pakistan will get separated from East Pakistan..
cause we have India in between with 10 times bigger hostile army ..

There is no difference between Taliban and Lasker. Both are using terror for political gains.

 

[SrNair]

Janaab the K issue is back on table ..
what happen to Stubborn Indian stance that , no talks on Kashmir ?

Terrorism in Kashmir would be a subject .Not its integrity .
Kashmir is one and only state that experience cross border terrorism.
Trust me if present NDA govt opt for a dialogue with Pakistan it has some meticulous planning or we got what we want from your policy makers.
Dont need to mention about international pressure .Those moral high guys ,west, are too busy with IS and Russia in ME.
And they need India's neutrality now .So they wouldnt mention about a single word about Kashmir .
Talks happens now because we decided for that .

 

[thesolar65]

What pressure? The real Pressure India is facing is at Paris.....Climate control summit i.e COP21!!