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India Scrutinizing Russian SU-57 Stealth Jets As Makers Struggle To Fulfill Orders

The stealth jets first flew in 2010, but due to delays in production until 2018, the 10 SU-57 prototypes were marred with “inadequate and incomplete sensors, incomplete fire-control systems and self-protection suites, no operational integrated avionics and unreliable engines,” aviation expert Tom Cooper writes.



The twin-engine for SU-57 is built at the Komsomolsk-on-Amur aircraft plant in the Russian Far East. According to a report in Forbes by David Axe, Sukhoi originally planned to hand over the first two production-standard SU-57s in late 2019 and two more in 2020. But the December 2019 crash of one of the jets compelled the company to halt the work on the program.

Earlier, Russian Minister of Industry, Denis Manturov, had confirmed that a contract for the acquisition of 76 Sukhoi Su-57 aircraft, Russia’s first indigenously designed and built fifth-generation stealth fighter jet, has been concluded between Moscow and United Aircraft Corporation.

Last year, Russia deployed pairs of SU-57s to Syria for what it claimed were combat trials. However, there’s no evidence to prove that the fighters actually flew front-line missions.



“Shortly following the 2018 deployment, the Kremlin cancelled production of the SU-57 after the 28th copy, effectively cancelling the program. But Russian President Vladimir Putin in mid-2019 dramatically revived the program, announcing a plan to buy an additional 48 copies,” wrote Axe.

As reported earlier by the EurAsian Times, the SU-57 fighter jet is designed to have supercruise, supermaneuverability, stealth, and advanced avionics to overcome the prior generation fighter aircraft as well as ground and naval defences.

Russia is marketing a number of high-end combat jets to India and alongside continued sales of MiG-29 and SU-30MKI fighters. New Delhi could also possibly purchase the Yak-130 fighter-trainer and the MiG-35 next-generation medium fighter jet.



India has shown some interest in Russia’s Su-57 next-generation heavyweight fighter, although the aircraft is yet to enter service in the Russian Air Force. New Delhi is likely to wait and assess its performance before making any commitments.

Experts stated that the possibility remains that India could seriously consider purchasing an initial batch of ‘off the shelf’ Su-57 jets from Russia to evaluate their capabilities – before entering into a contract for joint production.

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SU-57

According to the author, now the company plans to deliver all four fighter jets in 2020. “These are challenging tasks that will truly mobilize us,” Sergey Chemezov, CEO of Sukhoi’s umbrella company, told state media in late 2019. COVID-19 pandemic may push the delivery dates even further.



However, Sukhoi workers are optimistic about delivering SU-57 on time. “The new aircraft is complex,” deputy workshop head Viktor Passar said, citing “composite sheathing, the latest technologies, the highest quality requirements.” “But we also have highly qualified personnel in our workshop,” Passar added.



The author also stated that several years after building the SU-35, managers at Komsomolsk-on-Amur are setting up SU-57 production in the plant’s Shop 45. He added that managers modernized the docking ramps and upgraded the rigs for building air-intakes and engine nacelles. They also shifted airframe work from Shop No. 7 to Shop No. 45, placing as much as possible of the SU-57 assembly in one space. “Before that, there were colossal losses of time,” said Artem Oshchepkov, the Shop No. 45 supervisor.
 
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India Scrutinizing Russian SU-57 Stealth Jets As Makers Struggle To Fulfill Orders

The stealth jets first flew in 2010, but due to delays in production until 2018, the 10 SU-57 prototypes were marred with “inadequate and incomplete sensors, incomplete fire-control systems and self-protection suites, no operational integrated avionics and unreliable engines,” aviation expert Tom Cooper writes.



The twin-engine for SU-57 is built at the Komsomolsk-on-Amur aircraft plant in the Russian Far East. According to a report in Forbes by David Axe, Sukhoi originally planned to hand over the first two production-standard SU-57s in late 2019 and two more in 2020. But the December 2019 crash of one of the jets compelled the company to halt the work on the program.

Earlier, Russian Minister of Industry, Denis Manturov, had confirmed that a contract for the acquisition of 76 Sukhoi Su-57 aircraft, Russia’s first indigenously designed and built fifth-generation stealth fighter jet, has been concluded between Moscow and United Aircraft Corporation.

Last year, Russia deployed pairs of SU-57s to Syria for what it claimed were combat trials. However, there’s no evidence to prove that the fighters actually flew front-line missions.



“Shortly following the 2018 deployment, the Kremlin cancelled production of the SU-57 after the 28th copy, effectively cancelling the program. But Russian President Vladimir Putin in mid-2019 dramatically revived the program, announcing a plan to buy an additional 48 copies,” wrote Axe.

As reported earlier by the EurAsian Times, the SU-57 fighter jet is designed to have supercruise, supermaneuverability, stealth, and advanced avionics to overcome the prior generation fighter aircraft as well as ground and naval defences.

Russia is marketing a number of high-end combat jets to India and alongside continued sales of MiG-29 and SU-30MKI fighters. New Delhi could also possibly purchase the Yak-130 fighter-trainer and the MiG-35 next-generation medium fighter jet.



India has shown some interest in Russia’s Su-57 next-generation heavyweight fighter, although the aircraft is yet to enter service in the Russian Air Force. New Delhi is likely to wait and assess its performance before making any commitments.

Experts stated that the possibility remains that India could seriously consider purchasing an initial batch of ‘off the shelf’ Su-57 jets from Russia to evaluate their capabilities – before entering into a contract for joint production.

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SU-57

According to the author, now the company plans to deliver all four fighter jets in 2020. “These are challenging tasks that will truly mobilize us,” Sergey Chemezov, CEO of Sukhoi’s umbrella company, told state media in late 2019. COVID-19 pandemic may push the delivery dates even further.



However, Sukhoi workers are optimistic about delivering SU-57 on time. “The new aircraft is complex,” deputy workshop head Viktor Passar said, citing “composite sheathing, the latest technologies, the highest quality requirements.” “But we also have highly qualified personnel in our workshop,” Passar added.



The author also stated that several years after building the SU-35, managers at Komsomolsk-on-Amur are setting up SU-57 production in the plant’s Shop 45. He added that managers modernized the docking ramps and upgraded the rigs for building air-intakes and engine nacelles. They also shifted airframe work from Shop No. 7 to Shop No. 45, placing as much as possible of the SU-57 assembly in one space. “Before that, there were colossal losses of time,” said Artem Oshchepkov, the Shop No. 45 supervisor.
I'm a little surprised that how this article completely hide the fact that India was a part of this project at some time but left it due some unknown reasons.
 
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AWACS E-3 Sentry AN/APY-1 radar (3.60 GHz) head on view of a Chengdu J-20

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The Chengdu J-20 compares extremely well to the F-22 Raptor. The J-20 achieves the same Radar Cross Section (RCS) as the F-22 in frontal aspect (RCS = 0.0001 m2) - ie. just one tenth the RCS of an insect. From behind it has half the radar cross section of a bird.

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J-20 visibility to K-band radar (above)

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Radar cross section to an AIM-120 missile at 8.00GHz (above)

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AIM-120 missile tail view of J-20 at 8.00GHz X-band seeker (above)

From the rear a J-20 has the same RCS as the F-35 Lightning -II, STEALTH fighter. The major advantage of the a J-20 is that it achieves this without using RAM material. The cost of maintaining RAM is half the maintenance cost of the F-22 and results in the F-22 having an operational availability of just 27%.

To put this in context radar on the F-22 Raptor cannot detect the J-20 until it is 12 nautical miles away. The E3 Sentry AWACS can detect a golf ball at 165nm distance, but can’t detect the J-20.
 
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AWACS E-3 Sentry AN/APY-1 radar (3.60 GHz) head on view of a Chengdu J-20

main-qimg-52d77df67d4c84b3e8a2fa1104360518

The Chengdu J-20 compares extremely well to the F-22 Raptor. The J-20 achieves the same Radar Cross Section (RCS) as the F-22 in frontal aspect (RCS = 0.0001 m2) - ie. just one tenth the RCS of an insect. From behind it has half the radar cross section of a bird.

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J-20 visibility to K-band radar (above)

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Radar cross section to an AIM-120 missile at 8.00GHz (above)

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AIM-120 missile tail view of J-20 at 8.00GHz X-band seeker (above)

From the rear a J-20 has the same RCS as the F-35 Lightning -II, STEALTH fighter. The major advantage of the a J-20 is that it achieves this without using RAM material. The cost of maintaining RAM is half the maintenance cost of the F-22 and results in the F-22 having an operational availability of just 27%.

To put this in context radar on the F-22 Raptor cannot detect the J-20 until it is 12 nautical miles away. The E3 Sentry AWACS can detect a golf ball at 165nm distance, but can’t detect the J-20.
Karlo Kopp's J-20 RCS estimate is still the best public source measurement we have to this date
 
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I'm a little surprised that how this article completely hide the fact that India was a part of this project at some time but left it due some unknown reasons.
Known reason. Russian refused to TOT even when India has paid 500 millions up front.
Russia doesn't trust India.

Modi deteriorated the relationship with Russia, those guys are damn fool to invite Yankees to Akula Nuclear Sub.
 
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Dont think Russia needs stealth fighters, can't they just destroy NATO airbases with cruise missile?
They need stealth fighters to go up against other stealth aircraft (i.e. F-35, F-22) in A2A combat ... the Su-57s main goal is not a strike weapon. AFAIK, the largest reason the Indians dropped the Su-57/FGFA was its low stealthiness.
 
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I'm a little surprised that how this article completely hide the fact that India was a part of this project at some time but left it due some unknown reasons.
US Report that India is Revealing Russian SSN Secrets to US Navy


One can tell this Akula II is INS Chakra from the India naval ensign flying above the fin/sail and probably (?) the badge on the front of the fin/sail.
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The US government may have provided information that India is breaking a nuclear submarine (SSN) technology agreement with Russia. If so, this may be a US attempt to drive a wedge between India and Russia. More specifically it may reduce the chances India may lease a second Russian SSN and reduce the chances of Russian assistance to India on future indigenous Indian SSNs, SSBNs and their SLBMs.

On November 7, 2017 US website Strategypage reported Russian suspicions that India is violating the INS Chakra (Akula II ex-Nerpa SSN) lease agreement. Russian authorities suspect India is revealing some Chakra nuclear submarine technology details to US naval personnel. Russia has attempted to prevent such "snooping" by stipulating that a Russian naval officer be aboard INS Chakra at all times.
Strategypage goes on to report:
“Russia is also believed to suspect that a growing number of Indian naval officers have become so dissatisfied with Russian ships and poor Russian workmanship and repairs that they might pass details of [INS Chakra] the Akula II India already has to U.S. Navy officersthey work with.”
COMMENT

My searches so far haven't unearthed Indian or other US information to support Strategypage's (India violating Chakra lease agreement) report. Some details of Strategypage's report might have been inserted by the US Government as a small part of a campaign to cause political, strategic and economic friction between India and Russia.

BACKGROUND

The US is increasingly courting India, in part to separate India from Russia (India's largest supplier of arms). The US also wants to sell India several civilian Westinghouse nuclear power reactors to supply electricity. Russian company Rosatom (see same article) is a nuclear power reactor competitor to Westinghouse.

In August 2017 a continuing US/Boeing desire to sell F/A-18E/F Super Hornets to India was reported. Such US aircraft may eventually replace many of the Russian MiGs and Sukhois fighter/attack aircraft that India has been buying for decades.

India financed the completion of a Russian Akula II SSN Nerpa in the 2000s. Nerpa became Chakra on lease to India in 2012 (see right sidebar).

For several years India has expressed interest in financing the completion of a second Akula II (Project 971). Russia might then lease this second Akula II concurrently with INS Chakra or it may be delivered to India once Chakra's 10 year lease expires in 2022 (or a few years later).

At one stage India even hoped to lease one of Russia's late model Yasen SSNs. Russia quietly rejected this as Russia has too few Yasen SSNs to spare and Yasen technology is considered too sensitive to share with "lease" customers.

FURTHER COMMENT

Continuing Russian supply of weapons to India would be opposed by many in the US Government. But others would look forward to access to the latest Russian weapons' technological details once Russia sells or leases these weapons to India.
 
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But how will f-22 operate with no bases?
Operating assumption is the US stealth fighters are going to be based further away from Russia (i.e. UK, France) to prevent some cruise missiles. Honestly speaking, I think it will be very hard for these cruise or even ballistic missile barrages to put an airbase out of action. You saw how ineffective ballistic missile barrages were during the US strikes on Syria back in 2017 and the Iranian missile strikes this year.
 
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