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india really shaken and stirred because of CPEC

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India is in a self destructive mode. Hindutva is causing a demise of their society. On twitter and facebook, I have talked to many Indian muslims who have become disenchanted and disgruntled. The longer Hindutva ideology dominates the policy discourse in India, the better for us. We are witnessing a more polarized India.
i think you only check facebook or call it fakebook.Atleast india not going on paths of pakistan who is in so much loan that there only hope is cpec ,even your pm is now getting surrounded from everywhere.
And please do not worry about our muslims ,they will always be in better condition then yours.
 
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Can't help but laugh.
CPEC is worth $60-$65 billion, whereas we have the Delhi-Mumbai Industrial Corridor here which is worth $90 billion.
And we also have the Mumbai-Bangalore Economic Corridor with an estimated investment of $47 billion
 
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Apples and oranges can't be.compared

Pakistan S nation of 200 million with gdp of $320 billion .

India is a nation of 1.3billion and gdp of $2.4 trillion .

Pakistan is Hoping to come out of Indian shadow is the cpec project .

Let's see how things pan out
 
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i think you only check facebook or call it fakebook.Atleast india not going on paths of pakistan who is in so much loan that there only hope is cpec ,even your pm is now getting surrounded from everywhere.
And please do not worry about our muslims ,they will always be in better condition then yours.

Yes, Sure Indian Muslims are better than the pakistanis.. Indian muslims living in a live of luxuries in slums and gutters the.... or Indian Muslims getting first class transportation tied tied to hoods of military jeeps,.... or Indian Muslims enjoying a cheese burger while being chased down by a Hindutva lynch mob making sure the Muslims loose those calories..
 
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OTOH it is Pakistani FMs and diplomats that get laughed at internationally - not just the last week's episode but for some tim now. Remember the story of 20+ parliamentary minstrels sent all over the world only to run back with tails retracted (which in turn led to the Cyril Almeida affair). Credibility is not something you guys should even mention. May be if you work for it, in the next century.

I will do you a favor though: I won't add more and more examples about Pak credibility.


The comments of an indian are meaningless, irrelevant and of no value or worth to us. If it were then Pakistan would not be a nuclear weapons state.

FYI THE politicians in Pakistan do not run our nation so they are indispensable. If india ever becomes as powerful and advanced as Europe & the west then you can come and make valid criticisms and comments about Pakistan. Till then there is no significance of what your kind says or thinks.
 
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It's not CPEC per say that worries India but the Chinese foray into Pakistan with its military bases under the guise of CPEC that concerns India.
 
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It's not CPEC per say that worries India but the Chinese foray into Pakistan with its military bases under the guise of CPEC that concerns India.



That's already happening whether india likes it or not. And it's only going to increase. We will do whatever we need to, to protect our nation and race. That too against an enemy that is more than 7x bigger than us and has abundant access to the world's most advanced weapons systems whilst we are denied this privilege.
 
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That's already happening whether india likes it or not. And it's only going to increase. We will do whatever we need to, to protect our nation and race. That too against an enemy that is more than 7x bigger than us and has abundant access to the world's most advanced weapons systems whilst we are denied this privilege.

Yes. I know. And India would do everything possible to defend itself from the China-Pakistan axis.
 
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Does CPEC Help China ‘Colonize’ Pakistan? – Debunking The Myth
fter DAWN published the exclusive CPEC master plan revealing China’s seemingly apparent plans to colonise Pakistan and turn it into its own economic colony, the Indian media erupted with amusing reports. Media outlets claimed that Beijing is taking away the independence that the Pakistanis regained from the British Empire with their blood and sweat nearly 70 years ago. But the idea of China colonising Pakistan and establishing a comprehensive, nationwide control – economic, governmental and military – over Islamabad should not be so amusing to Indians. If it really happens, they would have to worry about the Chinese growing regional might not only on their country’s northern and eastern borders but also the western one.

DAWN released the exclusive CPEC master plan, which has even made some Pakistanis explode with outrage over the alleged colonial appetite of the Chinese during the first One Belt, One Road Summit, which hosted government officials from 57 countries earlier this week. While the master plan does offer a gloomy outlook for the Pakistanis, who are no strangers to struggling with colonialism from foreign powers, let’s not forget that every coin has two sides.

Let’s flip the coin for a second and take a look at the not-so-gloomy outlook for the Pakistani economy and the Pakistani people in general as a result of the implementation of the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor. The project is expected to create 2 million direct and indirect jobs in Pakistan alone and boost the country’s GDP growth rate to 7.5%, according to a report by U.S.-based consulting firm Deloitte and Touche.

CPEC improves livelihood of people in Pakistan
Like every development project between two nations, CPEC offers both benefits and negative impacts.

For example, the CPEC master plan cited by DAWN reveals China’s plans to take over “thousands of acres” of agricultural land in Pakistan for “demonstration projects.” But let’s not forget that those very infrastructures, roads and highways developed by CPEC create unprecedented opportunities for poor Pakistani regions which have been surviving below the poverty line for decades.

And while Pakistani governments both past and present have struggled to help those poor regions break free, the foreign investment that comes with CPEC could make a significant difference for the poor living nearby and inside the regions connected to the corridor. It’s not only the estimations that CPEC will create 2 million employment opportunities for the Pakistanis that improve the livelihood of locals, but also the fact that the corridor connects hinterlands with coasts, allowing big businesses to move to neglected regions.

China builds hospitals and schools in Pakistan with CPEC
To quote the DAWN report citing the CPEC master plan, China is set to create a “full system” of monitoring and surveillance for major Pakistani cities from Peshawar to Karachi and is even set to spread Chinese propaganda through the country’s TV, delivering it through fibre optic cables. While China’s vast investments into CPEC open the door for the Chinese to create monitoring and surveillance systems in Pakistan, it’s worth pointing out that the infrastructure projects spurred by the Chinese investment are improving the livelihood of the Pakistani people.

While probably no one can argue against the importance of high-quality hospitals and schools for every country and the livelihood of its people, China is opening medical centres, hospitals and educational institutions in Pakistan. Earlier this month, residents of Pakistan’s southwestern port city of Gwadar saw the opening of a hospital donated by China. Besides the hospital that allows for better emergency medical treatment to Pakistanis, China also built a new school in the port city in September 2016.

More medical and educational infrastructure projects spurred by China’s investments are set to open along CPEC in the coming months and years.

How bad is China’s “colonisation” for Pakistan’s economy?
The DAWN report further notes that the CPEC master plan “envisages a deep and broad-based penetration of most sectors of Pakistan’s economy as well as its society by Chinese enterprises and culture.” While the actual “negative” impact of such “deep and broad-based penetration” is yet to be seen, China’s penetration of various sectors of the Pakistani economy, especially its energy sectors, does not sound like bad news.

Energy is actually the game-changing pillar of CPEC projects and China’s investments in Pakistan. In fact, 11 of the 19 early harvest projects under CPEC have a goal of ensuring an uninterrupted supply of electricity. While as much as $34 billion of the entire CPEC Chinese investment has been allocated to electricity production and distribution alone, the coal-fired plants, hydropower facilities, and wind and solar power farms that are being built in Pakistan are expected to prevent cuts of the electricity supply in the country, significantly improving the livelihood of the populace and helping make the Pakistani economy work more efficiently.

While the DAWN report suggests that Chinese enterprises “will play the lead role in each field” of the Pakistani economy, a “leading role” of the world’s second biggest economy in a neighbouring state that is tightly connected to it already cannot be a negative thing. CPEC connects Xinjiang to Gwadar and Karachi, with pathways of the projects running through the entire country, thus improving connectivity and creating new supply and logistic chains – things the past and present governments of Pakistan have struggled to do without foreign investments over decades.

So is CPEC a BAD THING for Pakistan?
The seemingly apparent colonisation plans brewing in the minds of the Chinese leadership also include being respectful to the locals. The DAWN report says that Chinese enterprises would be advised to “respect the religions and customs of the local people, treat people as equals and live in harmony.”

Most Pakistanis have been living under the illusion that each and every citizen of their country would become wealthy and prosperous thanks to CPEC. But that’s not necessarily true, as the corridor only gives the means for Pakistani people and Pakistani businesses – both small and big – to benefit from the game-changing project and its vast economic opportunities.

The CPEC master plan published by DAWN – to some Pakistanis’ disappointment, it appears – shows yet again that every development project bears both benefits and negative impacts, and so does CPEC. But in no way should the seeming negative impacts of CPEC overshadow the vast opportunities and benefits spurred by the corridor.

@GroundZero_pk
 
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Does CPEC Help China ‘Colonize’ Pakistan? – Debunking The Myth
fter DAWN published the exclusive CPEC master plan revealing China’s seemingly apparent plans to colonise Pakistan and turn it into its own economic colony, the Indian media erupted with amusing reports. Media outlets claimed that Beijing is taking away the independence that the Pakistanis regained from the British Empire with their blood and sweat nearly 70 years ago. But the idea of China colonising Pakistan and establishing a comprehensive, nationwide control – economic, governmental and military – over Islamabad should not be so amusing to Indians. If it really happens, they would have to worry about the Chinese growing regional might not only on their country’s northern and eastern borders but also the western one.

DAWN released the exclusive CPEC master plan, which has even made some Pakistanis explode with outrage over the alleged colonial appetite of the Chinese during the first One Belt, One Road Summit, which hosted government officials from 57 countries earlier this week. While the master plan does offer a gloomy outlook for the Pakistanis, who are no strangers to struggling with colonialism from foreign powers, let’s not forget that every coin has two sides.

Let’s flip the coin for a second and take a look at the not-so-gloomy outlook for the Pakistani economy and the Pakistani people in general as a result of the implementation of the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor. The project is expected to create 2 million direct and indirect jobs in Pakistan alone and boost the country’s GDP growth rate to 7.5%, according to a report by U.S.-based consulting firm Deloitte and Touche.

CPEC improves livelihood of people in Pakistan
Like every development project between two nations, CPEC offers both benefits and negative impacts.

For example, the CPEC master plan cited by DAWN reveals China’s plans to take over “thousands of acres” of agricultural land in Pakistan for “demonstration projects.” But let’s not forget that those very infrastructures, roads and highways developed by CPEC create unprecedented opportunities for poor Pakistani regions which have been surviving below the poverty line for decades.

And while Pakistani governments both past and present have struggled to help those poor regions break free, the foreign investment that comes with CPEC could make a significant difference for the poor living nearby and inside the regions connected to the corridor. It’s not only the estimations that CPEC will create 2 million employment opportunities for the Pakistanis that improve the livelihood of locals, but also the fact that the corridor connects hinterlands with coasts, allowing big businesses to move to neglected regions.

China builds hospitals and schools in Pakistan with CPEC
To quote the DAWN report citing the CPEC master plan, China is set to create a “full system” of monitoring and surveillance for major Pakistani cities from Peshawar to Karachi and is even set to spread Chinese propaganda through the country’s TV, delivering it through fibre optic cables. While China’s vast investments into CPEC open the door for the Chinese to create monitoring and surveillance systems in Pakistan, it’s worth pointing out that the infrastructure projects spurred by the Chinese investment are improving the livelihood of the Pakistani people.

While probably no one can argue against the importance of high-quality hospitals and schools for every country and the livelihood of its people, China is opening medical centres, hospitals and educational institutions in Pakistan. Earlier this month, residents of Pakistan’s southwestern port city of Gwadar saw the opening of a hospital donated by China. Besides the hospital that allows for better emergency medical treatment to Pakistanis, China also built a new school in the port city in September 2016.

More medical and educational infrastructure projects spurred by China’s investments are set to open along CPEC in the coming months and years.

How bad is China’s “colonisation” for Pakistan’s economy?
The DAWN report further notes that the CPEC master plan “envisages a deep and broad-based penetration of most sectors of Pakistan’s economy as well as its society by Chinese enterprises and culture.” While the actual “negative” impact of such “deep and broad-based penetration” is yet to be seen, China’s penetration of various sectors of the Pakistani economy, especially its energy sectors, does not sound like bad news.

Energy is actually the game-changing pillar of CPEC projects and China’s investments in Pakistan. In fact, 11 of the 19 early harvest projects under CPEC have a goal of ensuring an uninterrupted supply of electricity. While as much as $34 billion of the entire CPEC Chinese investment has been allocated to electricity production and distribution alone, the coal-fired plants, hydropower facilities, and wind and solar power farms that are being built in Pakistan are expected to prevent cuts of the electricity supply in the country, significantly improving the livelihood of the populace and helping make the Pakistani economy work more efficiently.

While the DAWN report suggests that Chinese enterprises “will play the lead role in each field” of the Pakistani economy, a “leading role” of the world’s second biggest economy in a neighbouring state that is tightly connected to it already cannot be a negative thing. CPEC connects Xinjiang to Gwadar and Karachi, with pathways of the projects running through the entire country, thus improving connectivity and creating new supply and logistic chains – things the past and present governments of Pakistan have struggled to do without foreign investments over decades.

So is CPEC a BAD THING for Pakistan?
The seemingly apparent colonisation plans brewing in the minds of the Chinese leadership also include being respectful to the locals. The DAWN report says that Chinese enterprises would be advised to “respect the religions and customs of the local people, treat people as equals and live in harmony.”

Most Pakistanis have been living under the illusion that each and every citizen of their country would become wealthy and prosperous thanks to CPEC. But that’s not necessarily true, as the corridor only gives the means for Pakistani people and Pakistani businesses – both small and big – to benefit from the game-changing project and its vast economic opportunities.

The CPEC master plan published by DAWN – to some Pakistanis’ disappointment, it appears – shows yet again that every development project bears both benefits and negative impacts, and so does CPEC. But in no way should the seeming negative impacts of CPEC overshadow the vast opportunities and benefits spurred by the corridor.

@GroundZero_pk
Where is the link. the article is retarded.

CPEC is an alliance between Pakistan and China.
 
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War Of Words Between China, U.S. Intensifies As Beijing Gets Closer To Russia
Another conflict between China and the U.S. over the South China Sea is brewing after the Pentagon released a report suggesting that Beijing has plans to set up military bases in Pakistan. The war of words between Washington and Beijing is intensifying as the two sides trade blows.

As acting U.S. ambassador to China David Rank resigns from his post, the U.S. and China enter a heated exchange. The report by the Pentagon sparked a furor in China, with Beijing attacking the U.S. for its “cold war mentality.” The Pentagon focused its report on Beijing’s ambitions in the South China Sea, where it frequently challenges U.S. warships and planes.

The Pentagon claims in its report released on Tuesday that Beijing, which already has the largest navy in the Pacific, is planning to deploy up to three regiments of fighter jets on three of its disputed islands in the sea. The report also goes on to estimate that China currently has more than 300 ships in the Pacific.

The report reopened the tensions over the South China Sea, which Beijing claims in its entirety despite the Philippines, Malaysia, Brunei, Vietnam and Taiwan also claiming parts of the disputed region. Almost $5 trillion in trade passes through the South China Sea annually.

Washington and Beijing have been at odds over the status of China’s artificial islands in the sea, as they do not quite go in line with the U.S. Freedom of Navigation Operations. Beijing is currently constructing its first overseas base in Djibouti.

China is planning to set up military bases in Pakistan: Pentagon
As the Pentagon lifted the curtain to reveal China’s apparent plans to set up military bases in Pakistan, Beijing could not keep its lips sealed. Although Islamabad is clearly leaning toward Beijing thanks to their joint multi-billion dollar project China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), China’s response to the Pentagon report was furious. Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying described Beijing as being “firmly opposed” to the Pentagon’s assessments and said the report disregarded facts and made “irresponsible remarks.”

Nevertheless, the possibility of Beijing setting up one or more military bases in Pakistan remains high, with Beijing having ambitious plans for CPEC and trying to protect it from any foreign attempts to disrupt the project. India, Pakistan’s traditional enemy, vehemently opposes CPEC, as the ambitious project runs through the disputed Kashmir territory. With China increasing its CPEC investments from $46 billion to a staggering $54 billion in March, there were multiple reports also in March of Beijing allegedly sending Pakistan 15,000 troops, including 9,000 soldiers and 6,000 para-military forces personnel.

China has so far denied America’s assumptions that it could set up military bases on the territory of its longtime ally Pakistan, where the Pentagon says “there is a precedent for hosting foreign militaries.” However, there can be no denial that Beijing places great importance on its joint CPEC projects with Islamabad.

The Pentagon’s assertion that Beijing may be planning to build military bases in Pakistan and station its troops there on a permanent basis comes amid China’s alleged “master plan” published by DAWN last month. The publication concludes that China is planning to “colonise” Pakistan by using CPEC projects, though ValueWalk later debunked the myth that such plans exist in Beijing.

Chinese plans revealed: nuclear advances, massive defence spending
The Chinese government denies the part of the Pentagon report about its voracious appetites for the South China Sea. However, Beijing has never kept its assertive strategy to secure control of the sea under wraps, as it is looking to tighten its grip on the disputed area even though the U.S. has been lambasting it for its provocative actions there. Since 2015, Washington and Beijing have engaged in a heated exchange of hostile gestures over the South China Sea, with the U.S. advocating for freedom of navigation in the region.

The Pentagon’s 106-page report also focuses on China’s apparent plans to deploy rockets able to deliver nuclear warheads to the western Pacific. The report’s authors estimate that Beijing spent a whopping $180 billion on its defence in 2016 alone, and that figure appeared to be much higher than the Chinese government’s officially stated figure of $144.3 billion. That makes Beijing the second-biggest defence spender after the U.S., though the Chinese already have the world’s biggest military, according to multiple estimations from military experts.

Chinese President Xi Jinping has ordered a massive modernization of the People’s Liberation Army, focusing the country’s military buildup on protecting its interests in the disputed South China Sea. President Xi also ordered the development of a domestic aircraft carrier in a bid to have two carriers total in the Chinese army.

The Pentagon report also has worrying information about China’s nuclear plans, as the country is said to be working on the Dongfeng-26 intermediate-range ballistic missile (IRBM), which is capable of carrying out nuclear precision strikes and conventional strikes against targets in the western Pacific Ocean.

Russia and China’s “enormous” joint military events 2017-2020
It makes the Americans no less worried that Beijing is enjoying a growing friendship with Russia. At a recent meeting between Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu and his Chinese counterpart in Kazakhstan, the two nations agreed to hold “enormous” and “important” joint military events between now and 2020.

When addressing reporters after the meeting, Shoigu and Chinese General Chang Wanquan said they agreed to a military “road map” for the years 2017 to 2020. The plans to step up their military cooperation comes nearly a year after Russia and China carried out naval drills in the disputed the South China Sea, the exercise that was met with severe criticism from China’s neighbours with territorial claims in the disputed area.

Moscow and Beijing have been enjoying an increasingly warming military relationship lately, as, in addition to warming up to Beijing, Russia has also cosied up to its biggest regional ally Pakistan. The construction of military bases in Pakistan would further strengthen the Russia-China military partnership and create the possibility of a China-Russia-Pakistan superpower triangle.

@GroundZero_pk

Where is the link. the article is retarded.

CPEC is an alliance between Pakistan and China.
check the twitter handle... can't post links here for now mate
 
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Yes, Sure Indian Muslims are better than the pakistanis.. Indian muslims living in a live of luxuries in slums and gutters the.... or Indian Muslims getting first class transportation tied tied to hoods of military jeeps,.... or Indian Muslims enjoying a cheese burger while being chased down by a Hindutva lynch mob making sure the Muslims loose those calories..
These all things happens to very small group of Muslims , who boast in open about beef eating.
In India the rate at which Muslims are getting educated up to gradation level is very good.Muslims participate in sports events,development projects,in Competitive exams . Only Muslims who follow radical Islam are only getting chased or getting *** whined by police.
CPEC will hurt Pakistan more than it will hurt India.China even had banned Id holiday and you people are inviting those butchers at your place.
 
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