India Medical Tourism: Pakistanis Spend the Most Per Patient

[Suriya]

Pakistan EAM hasn't written any endorsement letter to Shushma Swaraj or anyone, this is one sided decision by India, looks to be done in benevolence, but this is an industry.

From the article.

the highest average earnings per patient through export of health services from India comes from Pakistan at $2,906.

Pakistan is followed by Bangladesh ($2,084), CIS (Commonwealth of Independent States) countries ($1,950), Russia ($1,618) and Iraq ($1,530), according to the survey.

But in absolute term it's measly $6 million per year
compared to $343 million by Bangladesh.

However, the number of medical visas issued to Pakistani patients in 2015-16 stood at a measly 1,921 compared to 58,360 to patients from Bangladesh and 29,492 to patients from Afghanistan. Due to the low number of medical visas issued, Pakistan contributed only $6 million to India’s services exports compared to $343 million by Bangladesh in 2015-16.

 

[Lotus_stalk]

I will always recommend China,Turkey or UAE. The hatred the Indians have for us is unbelievable.Err man.Thats what you are preached in your school books.You peeps have the hatred for the patients too.
Chalo bhago is forum se idar ka visa bh ban ha tm pr.

We come come here to so that poor people get some traffic from India, and scrape away a living... PDF has even stopped banning Indians...

 

[MultaniGuy]

I understand your ego & pride. But if a live or health of a loved one is on the line make the right decision

I am rich enough to live in Canada. I can get medical treatment in Canada.

Only those who are dirt poor who are a few go to India for advanced medical treatment like heart surgery and liver transplant. Pakistani do not go to India for cough and cold like illnesses.

 

[thunderr]

We understand your concerns.The dokhlam humiliation has effected your brains.Comeon there is always a loser ,[emoji4] and its You lol. Forgive poor patients,they generate you the much needed revenue . Apart from that who wants to visit India? I wont ever! NEVER

 

[wiseone2]

Tell me will you be willing to travel to Pakistan for any medical treatment supposedly, let's assume a particular treatment is available in Pakistan and not in India that easily, or not available?.

Will Indians travel to Pakistan is the question?

Just as Pakistanis travel to India...

individual Indians would be willing. i can tell you Indian government may not be charitable here

Let us be clear here - only wealthy pakistanis who can afford private Indian hospitals are coming here
They are coming only for procedures that require a high degree of specialization. No one is coming here for
run of the mill medical procedures - basic or advanced

 

[N.Siddiqui]

But in absolute term it's measly $6 million per year

cause the number of Patients are also measly, in a business everything adds up. I will not loose small customers as they are future big businesses.

The point is it is all marketing strategy to come up with media articles on Pakistan patient given visas after the Twitter spars and so.

Lots of articles in Indian media about Pak patients visiting India. Similar articles in Pakistan in select media like DAWN and ET about Pak patient treated in India...it is all marketing and med. tourism Industry needs words of mouth advertising as well as such 'paid articles' in all intl' media.

 

[wiseone2]

I am rich enough to live in Canada. I can get medical treatment in Canada.

Only those who are dirt poor who are a few go to India for advanced medical treatment like heart surgery and liver transplant. Pakistani do not go to India for cough and cold like illnesses.

Excuse me. Poor Pakistanis cannot afford private Indian hospitals. It is the middle class or wealthy in Pakistan who want advanced medical procedures at a price they can afford. The facilities & doctors for those advanced procedures are lacking in Pakistan. If it is available in Pakistan they would not come to India.

cause the number of Patients are also measly, in a business everything adds up. I will not loose small customers as they are future big businesses.

The point is it is all marketing strategy to come up with media articles on Pakistan patient given visas after the Twitter spars and so.

Lots of articles in Indian media about Pak patients visiting India. Similar articles in Pakistan in select media like DAWN and ET about Pak patient treated in India...it is all marketing and med. tourism Industry needs words of mouth advertising as well as such 'paid articles' in all intl' media.

Lot of medical procedures require post-operative care. In those cases India is not an option. Pakistan is a large country where it should have its own facilities & personnel for even the most advanced procedures. I am not even sure why this is happening

 

[Grevion]

ranjeet then how will your doctors manage to run their homes and hospitals without the money we give?did you ever try to read the stats? Indians can't afford this much.Say thanks to us

Yes without your patients our hospitals would have been bankrupts, without pakistan's help US would have been a dead meat in Afghanistan, without your friendship China would have been a loner and if it was not for Pakistani actors and artists Bollywood would have been a complete failure. The world owes so much to Pakistan and it is almost like the whole world truly revolves around you. How wonderful!

 

[MultaniGuy]

Excuse me. Poor Pakistanis cannot afford private Indian hospitals. It is the middle class or wealthy in Pakistan who want advanced medical procedures at a price they can afford. The facilities & doctors for those advanced procedures are lacking in Pakistan. If it is available in Pakistan they would not come to India.



Lot of medical procedures require post-operative care. In those cases India is not an option. Pakistan is a large country where it should have its own facilities & personnel for even the most advanced procedures. I am not even sure why this is happening

LOL nice try. The wealthy do not go to India for medical treatment.

It is the poor who go to India for medical treatment.

Don't flatter yourself!

 

[Lotus_stalk]

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I am rich enough to live in Canada. I can get medical treatment in Canada.

Only those who are dirt poor who are a few go to India for advanced medical treatment like heart surgery and liver transplant. Pakistani do not go to India for cough and cold like illnesses.

4 Indian Medical Institutes in the top ten global list
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/education/story/indian-medical-institutes/1/647872.html

 

[N.Siddiqui]

individual Indians would be willing. i can tell you Indian government may not be charitable here

Let us be clear here - only wealthy pakistanis who can afford private Indian hospitals are coming here
They are coming only for procedures that require a high degree of specialization. No one is coming here for
run of the mill medical procedures - basic or advanced

Yes you are right to quite an extent that only wealthy Pakistanis are travelling to India to specialty hospitals which charges anything between 2 million to 3.5 million Pak rupees or above.

Some are also travelling by getting support from relatives and friends.

About the other point will Indians travel to Pakistan as people from Pak travel to India...seems highly improbable and less likely.

One reason is there is far too much animosity, to put it in a mild way in the minds of average Indians against Pakistan, than vice versa. Pakistanis en bloc doesn't hate India...for a number of reasons, one is shared past and some shared relatives and history too.

Also it is about psychology as well, Pakistan is perceived in India as a pariah country(seems true both in English and Urdu). Like they have chosen to move away and lives a separate lives and it is not Indians who want to live separately from Muslims....another reason.


Another reason...just like a brother/step brother/member started to lives in a separate home after the marriage, irrespective of parents wishes and likes of the family and that person becomes separated from the original family and people tend to avoid him...this particular point I heard from some sane Indians...

 

[MultaniGuy]

Yes you are right to quite an extent that only wealthy Pakistanis are travelling to India to specialty hospitals which charges anything between 2 million to 3.5 million Pak rupees or above.

Some are also traveling by getting support from relatives and friends.

About the other point about will Indians travel to Pakistan as people travel to India...seems highly improbable and less likely.

One reason is there is far too much animosity, to put it in a mild way in the minds of average Indians against Pakistan, than vice versa. Pakistanis en bloc doesn't hate India...for a number of reasons, one is shared past and some shared relatives and history too.

Also it is about psychology as well, Pakistan is perceived in India as a pariah country(seems true both in English and Urdu). Like they have chosen to move away and lives a separate lives and it is not Indians who want to live separately from Muslims....another reason.


Another reason...just like a brother/step brother/member started to lives in a separate home after the marriage, irrespective of parents wishes and likes of the family and that person becomes separated from the original family and people tend to avoid him...this particular point I heard from some sane Indians...

Actually Pakistanis hate or don't care about India and Indians.

Most Pakistanis see India as a vastly different country.

 

[wiseone2]

cause the number of Patients are also measly, in a business everything adds up. I will not loose small customers as they are future big businesses.

The point is it is all marketing strategy to come up with media articles on Pakistan patient given visas after the Twitter spars and so.

Lots of articles in Indian media about Pak patients visiting India. Similar articles in Pakistan in select media like DAWN and ET about Pak patient treated in India...it is all marketing and med. tourism Industry needs words of mouth advertising as well as such 'paid articles' in all intl' media.

Do you what the expenses on the health care sector in India is ?

It is around 5% of GDP. It works out to $100 billion. $6 million is a tiny amount. Let us put things in perspective.
It helps a few private speciality hospitals

 

[PRC]

Shamelessness flaunted in this thread is quite glaring. There are tons of Pakistanis who have created twitter account just to tag Sushma Swaraj and have literally begged for visa but the lack of gratitude is the reason alone that India should minimize this visa and only grant to those who are in utter need.

And for those who question why this breed does not visit their iron brothels, apart from food, culture, and cost, below is another reason:
Chinese patients head to India for latest medicines after domestic crackdown

"The professionalism and cleanliness of India's private hospital is impressive. It's more like a hotel, unlike Chinese hospitals which are so crowded," Hua told Liaowang Institute, a Chinese think tank."

 

[kris]

http://www.riazhaq.com/2017/08/india-medical-tourism-pakistanis-spend.html

As Indian medical visas granted to Pakistani patients regularly make headlines in India, it is hard not to conclude that it's all part of a PR campaign by the Hindu Nationalist Modi government in India.


What is often left out of the media stories is the minor detail that Pakistanis pay more to use services of for-profit Indian hospitals than do people of other nationalities for such "humanitarian gestures".

Pakistan is an important and lucrative source of medical tourism dollars in India. The kind of facilities Pakistanis pay to use in India are not accessible to poor Indian masses who must rely on India's decrepit public health system.

A 2017 report by Indian ministry of commerce and industry says an average Pakistani spends Rs 187,000 on treatment in India. Those from Bangladesh spend Rs 134,000 on an average, followed by those from Commonwealth countries (Rs 125,000), Russia (Rs 104,000) and Iraq (Rs 98,554).

Times of India quoted Manish Chandra of Vaidam medical travel agency as saying: "This is because Pakistani patients mostly come for organ transplants and heart surgeries for children that are costly." In 2015-16, he said, nearly 166 Pakistanis received treatment in India every month. Top Delhi hospitals, which are frequented by foreign nationals, confirmed this.

Most of the Pakistani patients suffering from liver and heart ailments go to major for-profit hospitals in Delhi, Mumbai, Chennai and other cities, according to TOI. The number of Pakistani patients, however, has seen a sharp drop since February this year when the Indian government decided to stop granting medical visas to retaliate after Pakistan handed out a death sentence to Indian spy Kulbhushan Jadhav. In other words, humanitarian concerns take a back seat to Modi government's policies to assert India's dominance in the region.

The Times of India sums it up the situation as follows: India's imposition of restrictions on the issue of medical visas to Pakistanis has not just affected hundreds of patients from across the border but also dealt a body blow to medical tourism in India.

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http://www.riazhaq.com/2017/08/india-medical-tourism-pakistanis-spend.html

Rather i would see the brighter side

may be pakistan healthcare already takes care of most of its needs leaving few high end surgeries

no doubt you have to shell more per patients

"This is because Pakistani patients mostly come for organ transplants and heart surgeries for children that are costly."

This explains why Pakistani patients spend more in India. I hope Pakistanis can find better and economical treatments in China, Turkey or Russia.

they wont even come close in cost effectiveness

Pakistanis shouldn't go to India period for medical treatment.

Only idiots go to India for medical treatment.

I would rather go to China, Middle East, Or Europe for Medical Treatment.

First i dont wish NY ONE to go to hospital

second, you seem to be affordable