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India may ramp up military ties with Kabul post-troop pullout



India is set to partially step into the expected void that will be created once the US-led security forces start withdrawing from Afghanistan in June 2014.

On the request of Afghan authorities,
the Indian Ministry of Defence is willing to increase the training of Afghan National Army soldiers, develop military infrastructure and capacities of the newly raised Army in the strife-torn country.

The Afghan demand for sourcing weapons, tanks, armoured troop carrying vehicles, helicopters, fixed-wing planes, artillery guns and small arms, from India will be decided on a case-to-case basis, sources have confirmed to The Tribune.

It does not mean that the entire Afghan ‘wish list’ that runs into 220 different sets of weapons, equipment and platforms has been accepted, but it is clear that India is not averse to supplying weapons and equipment, sources said.

In no manner is this to be seen as a precursor to having Indian troop deployment in Afghanistan.

New Delhi will want to wait and watch how the developments pan out post the US withdrawal. If the democratic government holds itself in Kabul, military supplies will continue, but in case the anti-India Taliban wrest control yet again, there will be a re-think. Sources say as of now, there is no conflict in supplying, weapons, artillery guns, tanks or armoured vehicles.

Pakistan and China are also vying to fill the void once international forces, which had been pumped into Afghanistan following the 9/11 bombings in the US in September 2001, leave the country.

The Afghans had wanted that India to build accommodation for its troops, set up electricity supply equipment and computer training centre for its forces. The MoD, after consultation with the Indian forces, has asserted that infrastructure will be key to sustaining the Afghan army.


New Delhi will ramp up training and allow more cadets and officers from Kabul to come here. Around 150 Afghan army officers are annually trained in the National Defence Academy, Pune, The Indian Military Academy at Dehradun and the Officers Training Academy at Chennai.

Also batches of serving Afghan officers are trained in Signals (electronic communications), counter-insurgency, jungle warfare, field engineering and management of military stores.

A 10-member Afghan delegation will visit India from November 19 to 29 for talks.
It will include Deputy Defence Minister for Policy and Strategic Affairs Enayatullah Nazari and head of Afghan National Army’s Strategic Group Lt Gen Mohd Hamayun Fawzi.

Afghanistan has been discussed between India and the US twice in the past few months. In July, US Vice-President Joseph Biden had said “America and India are cooperating closely in Afghanistan”.

In September, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and US President Barack Obama, in a joint statement in Washington, reaffirmed their commitment to “supporting a smooth security and political transition.... remaining committed to contribute to peace, stability and development in Afghanistan during the critical transformation decade (2015-2024)”.

This summer, New Delhi put a small medical detachment at Ayni in Tajikistan, just north of Afghanistan and close to Gilgit, which is part of Pakistan @ccupied Kashmir (P@K). This is a military hospital with doctors, paramedics and equipment. Besides, 100 Indian military personnel are stationed at the Ayni airbase in Tajikistan.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2013/20131106/main5.htm
 
hhhhhh like we dont know it from before.just wait till ur embacy is also euacuated
 
Another thread on this subject is running.:closed:
 
@Ayush

Not good enough, few thousand Indian troops would be a real good news.

Above is just bullcrap, Afghans cant pay for the equipment listed above, nor will India, nor does India produce ANY of the above enmass.
 
@Ayush

Not good enough, few thousand Indian troops would be a real good news.

Above is just bullcrap, Afghans cant pay for the equipment listed above, nor will India, nor does India produce ANY of the above enmass.

actually we do..we do produce field guns,heavy vehicles and helicopters.we don't have list of 220 equipment.but we do produce what Afghanistan needs,or atleast we could provide them as loan.we did that in the past.many of our Mi-17s are serving Sri Lanka as loan.some got damaged during LTTE strike.
 
Shouldn't you be giving foodstamps to the half of your own countrymen BEFORE giving bombs and helicopters to Afghans?
 
Shouldn't you be giving foodstamps to the half of your own countrymen BEFORE giving bombs and helicopters to Afghans?

C'mon now; another "usual pavlovian knee-jerk response". Sit down in a pool of water and assuage the pain first.
All you could do was come up with some irrelevant gas instead! And people wonder why the quality of discourse here is heading Southwards? :D
Now onto the topic of the thread: there will be a move to respond to the Afghan requests for material. But it will happen only after the scenario in Afghanistan achives some clarity; not before. However, training facilities for Afghans in India will be increased (a move that has been advocated both by Russia and USA). That will give far higher dividends than materials can.
Remember the dictum: Mind over Matter. That is what matters!
That coupled with involvement in Reconstruction in Afghanistan is the mantra for the future, as it has been in the past.
While Destruction can be left to the Blokes who are most practiced in it.
 
Now onto the topic of the thread: there will be a move to respond to the Afghan requests for material. But it will happen only after the scenario in Afghanistan achives some clarity; not before. However, training facilities for Afghans in India will be increased (a move that has been advocated both by Russia and USA). That will give far higher dividends than materials can.
Remember the dictum: Mind over Matter. That is what matters!
That coupled with involvement in Reconstruction in Afghanistan is the mantra for the future, as it has been in the past.

Very well put, kaptaan sahab. Ensuring the survival of current ruling apparatus of Aghanistan is a headache for many a players, not India alone. We are more concerned with ensuring that this apparatus is favourably disposed towards us. Nothing better than having a course mate on the other side!

Off Topic :- Nice to see old guns from my time still firing straight!:toast_sign:
 
He said loans, not gifts. Loans have to be repaid with interest, as I am sure pakistan knows only too well.:D


C'mon now; another "usual pavlovian knee-jerk response". Sit down in a pool of water and assuage the pain first.
All you could do was come up with some irrelevant gas instead! And people wonder why the quality of discourse here is heading Southwards? :D
Now onto the topic of the thread: there will be a move to respond to the Afghan requests for material. But it will happen only after the scenario in Afghanistan achives some clarity; not before. However, training facilities for Afghans in India will be increased (a move that has been advocated both by Russia and USA). That will give far higher dividends than materials can.
Remember the dictum: Mind over Matter. That is what matters!
That coupled with involvement in Reconstruction in Afghanistan is the mantra for the future, as it has been in the past.
While Destruction can be left to the Blokes who are most practiced in it.

With Indians like you ready to buy bombs for other nations at the expense of your own 50% population facing malnutrition, we don't need anyone to destroy you, with this mentality, you'd do that to yourself, by your own help.
 
With Indians like you ready to buy bombs for other nations at the expense of your own 50% population facing malnutrition, we don't need anyone to destroy you, with this mentality, you'd do that to yourself, by your own help.

Even if we go by your logic less logic, Still we'd be left with 50% of population which is more than double of pak. :chilli:
 
India may ramp up military ties with Kabul post-troop pullout



India is set to partially step into the expected void that will be created once the US-led security forces start withdrawing from Afghanistan in June 2014.
On the request of Afghan authorities, the Indian Ministry of Defence is willing to increase the training of Afghan National Army soldiers, develop military infrastructure and capacities of the newly raised Army in the strife-torn country.

The Afghan demand for sourcing weapons, tanks, armoured troop carrying vehicles, helicopters, fixed-wing planes, artillery guns and small arms, from India will be decided on a case-to-case basis, sources have confirmed to The Tribune.

It does not mean that the entire Afghan ‘wish list’ that runs into 220 different sets of weapons, equipment and platforms has been accepted, but it is clear that India is not averse to supplying weapons and equipment, sources said.

In no manner is this to be seen as a precursor to having Indian troop deployment in Afghanistan.

New Delhi will want to wait and watch how the developments pan out post the US withdrawal. If the democratic government holds itself in Kabul, military supplies will continue, but in case the anti-India Taliban wrest control yet again, there will be a re-think. Sources say as of now, there is no conflict in supplying, weapons, artillery guns, tanks or armoured vehicles.

Pakistan and China are also vying to fill the void once international forces, which had been pumped into Afghanistan following the 9/11 bombings in the US in September 2001, leave the country.
The Afghans had wanted that India to build accommodation for its troops, set up electricity supply equipment and computer training centre for its forces. The MoD, after consultation with the Indian forces, has asserted that infrastructure will be key to sustaining the Afghan army.

New Delhi will ramp up training and allow more cadets and officers from Kabul to come here. Around 150 Afghan army officers are annually trained in the National Defence Academy, Pune, The Indian Military Academy at Dehradun and the Officers Training Academy at Chennai.

Also batches of serving Afghan officers are trained in Signals (electronic communications), counter-insurgency, jungle warfare, field engineering and management of military stores.
A 10-member Afghan delegation will visit India from November 19 to 29 for talks. It will include Deputy Defence Minister for Policy and Strategic Affairs Enayatullah Nazari and head of Afghan National Army’s Strategic Group Lt Gen Mohd Hamayun Fawzi.

Afghanistan has been discussed between India and the US twice in the past few months. In July, US Vice-President Joseph Biden had said “America and India are cooperating closely in Afghanistan”.

In September, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and US President Barack Obama, in a joint statement in Washington, reaffirmed their commitment to “supporting a smooth security and political transition.... remaining committed to contribute to peace, stability and development in Afghanistan during the critical transformation decade (2015-2024)”.

This summer, New Delhi put a small medical detachment at Ayni in Tajikistan, just north of Afghanistan and close to Gilgit, which is part of Pakistan @ccupied Kashmir (P@K). This is a military hospital with doctors, paramedics and equipment. Besides, 100 Indian military personnel are stationed at the Ayni airbase in Tajikistan.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2013/20131106/main5.htm
So the indians have taken a u turn!!!! 
With Indians like you ready to buy bombs for other nations at the expense of your own 50% population facing malnutrition, we don't need anyone to destroy you, with this mentality, you'd do that to yourself, by your own help.
Just 50%?

It has 1 third of world's POOREST not just poor.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-third-of-worlds-poorest-says-World-Bank.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-17377895
 
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With Indians like you ready to buy bombs for other nations at the expense of your own 50% population facing malnutrition, we don't need anyone to destroy you, with this mentality, you'd do that to yourself, by your own help.
you won't understand our postion dude. We have absolutely no concern about present but we have 'a little'(still not at the level of past) concern about future and we are preaparing for that. Its also in India's interest to make sure that Afghan security forces get as weapons as possible from India.
 
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