India may end support to Palestine at U.N.

[Foggy_Bottom]

Iran and other powers should also reconsider their relations with India and start supporting the Kashmir cause more actively...

I believe they've already had a stance on Kashmir for awhile, through their statements made by the gathering of Islamic council of countries . India seemingly just ignores it, and its muslim population is quiet peaceful.

Perhaps you can get Press TV to write anti Indian articles and start a movement?

Although the Iranians and every other Islamic nation have shown no interest in having such negative sentiments and or relationship with India. Rather they all clamor to have a good economic relationship with India.

 

[ozzy22]

You can’t compare the conflict between Pakistan and India two relatively powerful countries that have a land dispute to the Palestinian/ Israel conflict. Palestinians are pretty much defenseless against a much more powerful nation that has the support of the most powerful country in the world. I and people like me are vocal about this issue because of the unfairness than anything else. Add to the fact it sometimes feels like the Palestinians are ones being blamed or portrayed bad/evil for a reaction that most people would do in their situation.

 

[The_Showstopper]

That'll be a bad decision, if it is taken (which I doubt). While national interest is paramount, morality is important and shapes how nations are perceived in the long run. By any fair yardstick, the Palestinian demand for statehood is legitimate. Also, the public opinion in many parts of the world, including Europe, is turning in favour of the Palestinians. This is a bad time to change our stance. I don't think the Israelis would be too perturbed if we continue voting the way we did.

You forgot that we have a "true nationalist" government at helm, so no more appeasement by sickulars....

Well I forgot, we will only appease Israelis from now on....

 

[The_Showstopper]

Ask Palestine people about what is their stand on Kashmir,if they support then India should support them..If they oppose then be neutral or oppose them...Anyway, India and its stand does not matter any way..This is just for domestic political consumption by our so called secular parties...Otherwise who cares what India is really stand for on Palestine issue...

Its not for secular domestic consumption dude, it is just to be on the right side (Even Mahatma Gandhi backed Palestinians), Had Congress been so concerned about this "Domestic consumption" then India would never have had any relationship with Israel, forget about speaking of friendship...

 

[Kaniska]

Its not for secular domestic consumption dude, it is just to be on the right side (Even Mahatma Gandhi backed Palestinians), Had Congress been so concerned about this "Domestic consumption" then India would never have had any relationship with Israel, forget about speaking of friendship...

What Mahatma Gandhi did is different thing...He has done so many things, which every thing is not right...He is not a god...that we will do whatever he did 70 year ago...He is the person who had hands full in many of the things that is happening now..So leave him aside...

The point is if we would like to do everything right, then why Palestine, there are so many injustice happened throuout the world, are going to take a stand on that?...Why Palestine?...What has Palestine has given us in last 70 years..The last time i hear about Palestine, that those Palestine people will stand with Pakistan fighting with India...Now do you think India should support them at the cost of Israeal?...Come on be real...We are not super power here to do things right way..We are here to do the things that protects our interests..Simple...

 

[The_Showstopper]

What Mahatma Gandhi did is different thing...He has done so many things, which every thing is not right...He is not a god...that we will do whatever he did 70 year ago...He is the person who had hands full in many of the things that is happening now..So leave him aside...

The point is if we would like to do everything right, then why Palestine, there are so many injustice happened throuout the world, are going to take a stand on that?...Why Palestine?...What has Palestine has given us in last 70 years..The last time i hear about Palestine, that those Palestine people will stand with Pakistan fighting with India...Now do you think India should support them at the cost of Israeal?...Come on be real...We are not super power here to do things right way..We are here to do the things that protects our interests..Simple...

Maybe he wasn't right in everything but mostly, yes he was right and that includes the Israel-Palestine case...
Where are we supporting Palestinians? Its just mere lip service... Our Govt does business with Israel, has good relations with it which helps Israel's economy and also our's, so no India doesn't really stand with Palestinians... Its just a symbolic gesture of supporting their cause...India has done much more than just symbolism before and my following links proves that...

India intensifies struggle against apartheid | South African History Online

 

[Hasbara Buster]

I believe they've already had a stance on Kashmir for awhile, through their statements made by the gathering of Islamic council of countries . India seemingly just ignores it, and its muslim population is quiet peaceful.

Perhaps you can get Press TV to write anti Indian articles and start a movement?

Although the Iranians and every other Islamic nation have shown no interest in having such negative sentiments and or relationship with India. Rather they all clamor to have a good economic relationship with India.

Says the American whose government has declared war on humanity; can't you see the irony? Maybe YOU should tell your government to lift all "sanctions" against Iran, Venezuela, Russia, North Korea and others? Who gave you the right to carry out those criminal, inhumane and illegal policies ? Also, end your relentless Islamophobia campaign and your support for terrorist organizations throughout the Middle East. You don't consider those "negative sentiments", as you put it, do you? You are the "exceptional" and "indispensable" nation after all and can do whatever you want, don't you? You are of course never wrong, but others are always wrong, even when they do nothing illegal of course.

 

[xyxmt]

Learning about social topics by just looking at people of a certain nationality

An after effect of "higher" education no doubt.

in any social interaction you look at people and guess their miseries then confirm your doubts by having a conversation. Just like I am doing it now, without even looking at you I am guessing your miseries.

p.s when you reply dont forget to mention my "higher education", in Pakistan.
and get your own babble head, the one that moves sideways

 

[ito]

India's new master is Israel.

israel is not the master of india, but is one of the largest defence seller to india. it sells defence equipment that nobody sells and is most trusted defence seller to india after perhaps russia. Israel meanwhile depends on india for cash, and india is only a few countries in asia that truly is a friend of israel.

I welcome india's change on palestine issue. anyway, india has no sphere of influence in middle east nor with arab countries, so its support to palestine cause doesn't matter much to palestine or arabs nor do palestine care much about india's support. however, i wish palestine the best

 

[Bang Galore]

Maybe he wasn't right in everything but mostly, yes he was right and that includes the Israel-Palestine case...

Without prejudice to the issue at hand, Gandhi's position was at a different time period and was mainly about the logic of settling European Jews in Palestine. That made perfect sense then but now that Israel is a reality, that position should not be used as an excuse for automatic support. India does not support an active liberation struggle of the Tibetans, morality has very little to do with this. Your argument that Israel is in the wrong on its treatment of the Palestinians is not really questionable, the point here is whether it makes sense for India to single out just that one country, a country that has now become a close friend.

Iran and other powers should also reconsider their relations with India and start supporting the Kashmir cause more actively...

Why? What would that achieve? In any case why would Iran or any other country actively seek to destroy their relations with a fairly large country over a foreign policy matter that does not directly concern them?

 

[KingMamba]

No point of changing the vote when the vote has remained constant over the decades.

Not really.While it is true that India was denied membership earlier but later OIC realized that they had zero credibility as representative of Muslim world if it did not include 200 million odd Indian Muslims and they tried to correct it by repeatedly asking India to join.

But India, sensibly, has learnt from its past mistake and declined to join for exactly the same reason.

Without India, OIC can not claim to be representative of world's Muslims/

Incorrect Pakistan has stated it will not allow India into the OIC, India asked once and after the first Pakistani block India has never bothered again. Also India does not have 200 Million Muslims, you guys always change the number whenever you like.

I believe they've already had a stance on Kashmir for awhile, through their statements made by the gathering of Islamic council of countries . India seemingly just ignores it, and its muslim population is quiet peaceful.

Perhaps you can get Press TV to write anti Indian articles and start a movement?

Although the Iranians and every other Islamic nation have shown no interest in having such negative sentiments and or relationship with India. Rather they all clamor to have a good economic relationship with India.

Actually Iran historically supported Indian position on Kashmir for years and only made a pro Pakistan statement on the matter after India voted against them in the UN.

 

[The Great One]

i am socialist... for me, humanity ( pan-humanism ) triumphs over everything.

nationalism and nations are artificial constructs which divide humanity and therefore not desirable among a enlightened humanity... can we go up 200 kilometers into low earth orbit and expect to see the borders that we see in political maps... we don't, therefore the enlightened person will seek to eradicate the idea of nations... the enlightened person will seek to replace the world of nations with a communist humanity where governments have fallen, militaries have been disbanded and people rule themselves... a humanity governed by decentralized direct-democracy.



the modern western nation is different from the western peoples... the western nation is a construct built on forwarding money system and imperialism... what the western nation has is not democracy but multi-party dictatorship where the peoples are given the illusion of freedom but the governments continue their worship of money and consumerism, and love for invading sovereign nations to make them colonies and puppets.

will the "occupy london" movement be easily allowed to form the next british government?? will the cpusa ( communist party of usa ) being easily allowed by cia and estalishment to form the next usa government?? if the western nation is true democracy then those two things should be allowed, yes??

this can be the manifesto for true democracy... ( Refworld | Libya: Great Green Charter of Human Rights of the Jamahiriyan Era ).

this can be how direct-democracy is achieved in south asia... ( proposal for a new division of south asia | Page 10 ).

Dude. I actually agree with most of what you say, but it would have been much better if you hadn't brought in Gaddafi and Jamahiriyan into all this. That instantly turns off people away.

I believe they've already had a stance on Kashmir for awhile, through their statements made by the gathering of Islamic council of countries . India seemingly just ignores it, and its muslim population is quiet peaceful.

Perhaps you can get Press TV to write anti Indian articles and start a movement?

Although the Iranians and every other Islamic nation have shown no interest in having such negative sentiments and or relationship with India. Rather they all clamor to have a good economic relationship with India.

Iranians actually saved our A$$ on the Kashmir issue back in 1994 when we were really down and out. Pity, that we voted against them in the IAEA multiple times (thanks to Uncle Sam) which caused them to support Kashmir now (if only through lip-service).

 

[jamahir]

Dude. I actually agree with most of what you say,

thank you.

but it would have been much better if you hadn't brought in Gaddafi and Jamahiriyan into all this. That instantly turns off people away.

why??

 

[The Great One]

thank you.



why??

Well, with what happened in Libya in 2011, everyone feels that Gaddafi was just another nutjob 'dic'tator. I'm myself not aware of what he was or what he wasn't and what he did for Libya since I don't care much about Africa and M.E but thats how it is.

 

[greatone]

in any social interaction you look at people and guess their miseries then confirm your doubts by having a conversation. Just like I am doing it now, without even looking at you I am guessing your miseries.

p.s when you reply dont forget to mention my "higher education", in Pakistan.
and get your own babble head, the one that moves sideways

Try nt to blow yourself up if you "guess" something wrong about me next time Mr cousin fucker

No point of changing the vote when the vote has remained constant over the decades.



Incorrect Pakistan has stated it will not allow India into the OIC, India asked once and after the first Pakistani block India has never bothered again. Also India does not have 200 Million Muslims, you guys always change the number whenever you like.

It is partially correct.Pakistan indeed stopped India's entry into the OIC when India first wanted to join.

But since then, other countries have started leaning on Pakistan to acquiesce to India's entry but India itself is hesitant to join because doing so will provide credibility to OIC which it currently lacks.

Links have already been provided in this thread you are welcome to go through them.