India is Losing the War in Afghanistan

[j20611]

Afghans must be tired of indian cow rapers and child molestors

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thelogicalindian.com

Time to remind Indians the name of the hindukush mountains

 

[R Wing]

From the time Indian plane was hijacked in Kandahar and India could do nothing , Afghanistan being extension of Pakistan .....to a situation when Pakistan bleeded for decades due to Afghanistan....what a turnaround.


India's investment in Afghanistan was in building thier Parliament, Dams, Library, Schools, Capacity building of their civilian and military government. Afghans know ( even Taliban leaders) that India can contribute positively, that India can never be their enemy and so , whosover will come in power, they will engage with India. Even Talibans have learnt thier lessons and will not go back to extreme version.


All that I highlighted is.........you dont count your money, when you are sitting on the table... you count the money....when the deal is done.....

This turnaround has nothing to do with India ---- it was the US invasion of Afghanistan that gave corrupt warlords and a sham democracy (have you seen the % turnout in Afghan elections?) The Afghan govt does not represent the people.

Under this new scheme of things, R&AW should be given credit (from a Doval Doctrine point of view) of exploiting an opportunity to support (finance/logistics/comms/weapons/funds/etc) terrorists attacking Pakistani interests and citizens.

During this time, Pakistan was "blessed" with the worst (ineffective/corrupt) leadership in its recent history, which didn't help.

I agree that things should be counted at the end --- but the end, if US troops start to withdraw, will be for a Taliban power-sharing agreement, and there is no way the Afghan Taliban will allow Afghan soil to be used by Indian intelligence to harm Pakistan. Keep in mind that to the Afg Taliban, in the end, your government supported their enemy wholeheartedly (the NDS, for example.)

Time will tell who's right. Thanks for your response.

 

[FlashGordon]

This turnaround has nothing to do with India ---- it was the US invasion of Afghanistan that gave corrupt warlords and a sham democracy (have you seen the % turnout in Afghan elections?) The Afghan govt does not represent the people.

Under this new scheme of things, R&AW should be given credit (from a Doval Doctrine point of view) of exploiting an opportunity to support (finance/logistics/comms/weapons/funds/etc) terrorists attacking Pakistani interests and citizens.

During this time, Pakistan was "blessed" with the worst (ineffective/corrupt) leadership in its recent history, which didn't help.

I agree that things should be counted at the end --- but the end, if US troops start to withdraw, will be for a Taliban power-sharing agreement, and there is no way the Afghan Taliban will allow Afghan soil to be used by Indian intelligence to harm Pakistan. Keep in mind that to the Afg Taliban, in the end, your government supported their enemy wholeheartedly (the NDS, for example.)

Time will tell who's right. Thanks for your response.

Countries dont work and act as an Individual do. Post Independence, India was not the enemy of UK....right.

Pakistan exploited the situation post USSR intervention and USA pumping money. Without USA support, could Pakistan have achieved anything against USSR.

India may have expanded influence .....similarly..post 911 and USA Invasion for a safer and better Asia and Afghanistan. Taliban regime was only recognized by few evil countries only.

The common enemy being the country which had cottage industry of so called non state actors .

Why does your country has non state actors? What if India starts sending Indiansbin large numbers to commit terrorist acts and when caught state that these are non state actors.

 

[Brar]

The Indian War of Terror in Afghanistan is coming to a sorry end. Exclusive Analysis by Pakistan Defence.

What can one expect from the ordinary members when such crap is posted by a administrator.

 

[manga]

If this series had its way, soon pakistan will be occupying new delhi

 

[R Wing]

Countries dont work and act as an Individual do. Post Independence, India was not the enemy of UK....right.

Pakistan exploited the situation post USSR intervention and USA pumping money. Without USA support, could Pakistan have achieved anything against USSR.

India may have expanded influence .....similarly..post 911 and USA Invasion for a safer and better Asia and Afghanistan. Taliban regime was only recognized by few evil countries only.

The common enemy being the country which had cottage industry of so called non state actors .

Why does your country has non state actors? What if India starts sending Indiansbin large numbers to commit terrorist acts and when caught state that these are non state actors.

Man, you Indians really are brainwashed.

India has fanned terror in the region more than any other country. Just because the West has had an axe to grind against Islam in the modern era, India's support to various terror groups causing havoc in the region has gone unpunished.

Even America knows India supports Baloch terrorists, TTP, Tamil Tigers (in the past), etc. It just has to turn a blind eye because it is trying to build up India to resist growing Chinese dominance in the region.

It doesn't matter who recognized the Afg Taliban previously or not --- what matters is that they represent the majority of (especially) rural Afghans from the main ethnic group (Pashtuns.) Under your favorite kind of government system (democracy), that would make them the legitimate, popular leaders of the country.

R&AW has only been able to use Afghan soil to stoke terror in Pakistan (through non-state actors, by the way) because:
a.) the government of the mayor of Kabul (aka the Government of Afghanistan) and its intel agency, the NDS, are full of vengeful weirdos whose wet dream has been to support TTP/ISIS to kill Pakistanis

b.) the US had no option but to turn a blind eye (like it does toward the dictatorship in Saudi Arabia where there are hardly any human rights / freedom of speech yet the US gladly sells them billions in arms) to India's unsavory terrorist activities because it wants to use India to annoy China (Baloch terror attacks on CPEC, etc.)

The net result is that, by and large, Pakistan has grown stable and the Afghan end game, especially when the invaders leave, won't be so pretty for India.

We can talk all day here ---- let's just wait and see instead.

 

[vishwambhar]

We were never in war in Afghanistan to begin with.... we were there to play the development part in Afghanistan which in future could benefit both countries economically..... we are not a rogue nation to do wars every now and then.....

 

[Jackdaws]

India is losing the War in Afghanistan?

India is in a war in Afghanistan??

 

[sal29]

We were never in war in Afghanistan to begin with.... we were there to play the development part in Afghanistan which in future could benefit both countries economically..... we are not a rogue nation to do wars every now and then.....

Oh you are a nation .Here I thought you are state of many nations in which majority of people are grass eating piss drinkers ... My bad

Coming to the point I don't think you get the gist of the discussion ... you are in Afghanistan to wage destabilizing agenda for Pakistan which you can only do by first having puppets in Afghanistan .. hence the topic indian war in Afghanistan. And yes we all know the """"development"""" you have done there. The whole point is peace deal between Taliban and the US definitely doesn't go in Indian favor especially if Taliban come to power in some form. And if you want to deny that you don't have agenda to destabilize Pakistan via Afghanistan then I suggest you go through the talks given by some of your people in security establishment, I am sure you have some mental capacity to absorb what they are saying.

 

[vishwambhar]

Oh you are a nation .Here I thought you are state of many nations in which majority of people are grass eating piss drinkers ... My bad

Coming to the point I don't think you get the gist of the discussion ... you are in Afghanistan to wage destabilizing agenda for Pakistan which you can only do by first having puppets in Afghanistan .. hence the topic indian war in Afghanistan. And yes we all know the """"development"""" you have done there. The whole point is peace deal between Taliban and the US definitely doesn't go in Indian favor especially if Taliban come to power in some form. And if you want to deny that you don't have agenda to destabilize Pakistan via Afghanistan then I suggest you go through the talks given by some of your people in security establishment, I am sure you have some mental capacity to absorb what they are saying.

You don't get the gist of my post.... we are there to play the part in developing Afghanistan which will benefit both countries economically..... there is no brotherhood or bhaichara..... pure business.....

Now if you want to believe that whatever India does is to destabilize Pakistan then stick to that thinking.....

For India if world was ending only at Pakistan then by now India would not be so advanced in space technology and would be begging every month for EMI installments on the loans taken.....

 

[sal29]

You don't get the gist of my post.... we are there to play the part in developing Afghanistan which will benefit both countries economically..... there is no brotherhood or bhaichara..... pure business.....

Now if you want to believe that whatever India does is to destabilize Pakistan then stick to that thinking.....

For India if world was ending only at Pakistan then by now India would not be so advanced in space technology and would be begging every month for EMI installments on the loans taken.....

Yea I think you should start """developing""" in India first instead of Afghanistan. I'll start with toilets.

Don't you worry about our loans we are not asking it from you. Standard of living and happiness level of Pakistani people is still much higher than India so I won't hang up on loans.

Just curious even with the loans and being 1/7 in size both size and population and also doing so poorly from economical perspective we are still standing since 1947. I mean according to Indian establishment/media we sponsor ""adakwad"" in India why don't you guys just finish us off we are so so poor compared to India and our military is no good either. Even with the money, land and people courage is something you are not able muster up (I wouldn't be able to muster up either if all I had was cow piss and shit with Hindutva ideology). I am sure its not your fault, a millenia of being ruled over by muslims and then british you just don't grow balls anymore.

 

[vishwambhar]

Yea I think you should start """developing""" in India first instead of Afghanistan. I'll start with toilets.

Don't you worry about our loans we are not asking it from you. Standard of living and happiness level of Pakistani people is still much higher than India so I won't hang up on loans.

Just curious even with the loans and being 1/7 in size both size and population and also doing so poorly from economical perspective we are still standing since 1947. I mean according to Indian establishment/media we sponsor ""adakwad"" in India why don't you guys just finish us off we are so so poor compared to India and our military is no good either. Even with the money, land and people courage is something you are not able muster up (I wouldn't be able to muster up either if all I had was cow piss and shit with Hindutva ideology). I am sure its not your fault, a millenia of being ruled over by muslims and then british you just don't grow balls anymore.

Sorry to hurt you so badly.... don't get me wrong. .... I just wanted to tell him that everything what India does is not to destabilise Pakistan.....

In fact you see it's Pakistan who always functioned being India centric..... had you kept India aside for some years and focused on economy who knows you would have been like south Korea today.... but to prove yourself over India you preferred to eat grass for nuclear weapons..... kept 5.5% defense budget in total national GDP and even in such todays economic conditions of yours its same..... and hence today this situation.....

India if was Pakistan centric then Inspite of having 2 nuclear enemies on east and west wouldn't be spending peanuts on defense.....if we didn't have these 2 powerful enemies our armed forces would be comparable to Mexico today as then today we would be even saving those 2% peanuts on defense......

we focused on industrial development, space program..... tried to stay as much away from Pakistan as possible.....so today world takes India more seriously than Pakistan, India has more bargaining power on world stage than Pakistan.... yes due to huge population still poor is suffering but it will take time.... you can't turn around 16 wheels fully loaded truck like India the way you can turn the Kawasaki ninja bike.....
So Afghanistan there's no war India is involved in..... its just a business for the betterment of both the countries..... we are not Pakistan centric......

 

[sal29]

Sorry to hurt you so badly.... don't get me wrong. .... I just wanted to tell him that everything what India does is not to destabilise Pakistan.....

In fact you see it's Pakistan who always functioned being India centric..... had you kept India aside for some years and focused on economy who knows you would have been like south Korea today.... but to prove yourself over India you preferred to eat grass for nuclear weapons..... kept 5.5% defense budget in total national GDP and even in such todays economic conditions of yours its same..... and hence today this situation.....

India if was Pakistan centric then Inspite of having 2 nuclear enemies on east and west wouldn't be spending peanuts on defense.....if we didn't have these 2 powerful enemies our armed forces would be comparable to Mexico today as then today we would be even saving those 2% peanuts on defense......

we focused on industrial development, space program..... tried to stay as much away from Pakistan as possible.....so today world takes India more seriously than Pakistan, India has more bargaining power on world stage than Pakistan.... yes due to huge population still poor is suffering but it will take time.... you can't turn around 16 wheels fully loaded truck like India the way you can turn the Kawasaki ninja bike.....
So Afghanistan there's no war India is involved in..... its just a business for the betterment of both the countries..... we are not Pakistan centric......

Sure Sure ... thats why your godi media is running 24/7 about Pakistan or Pakistan and dragon, you people have nothing better to do. Even your retired military personal are there just barking all the time, at least put gd bakshi in an institute we will pay for it

Stop bragging about your space program you have 10.7% of population living in extreme poverty (according to adb) compared 2.3% in Pakistan, I guess they don't teach about priorities in India and you are not the only one having a space program, your so called dragon has much much bigger space program and Pakistan doesn't need it for now as it doesn't help our economy in any way. Moreover India should focus more on feeding its soldiers as feeding them just patli daal is just pathetic.

kept 5.5% defense budget in total national GDP ... well we have to we have 7 times larger enemy on our eastern front so it makes sense to us don't worry about it ... its not you who is funding it and yes we the Pakistani people are still willing to eat grass if it means we keep our freedom and our way of life.

India has more bargaining power on world stage than Pakistan .... well thats because your economy is 7 times bigger than us which it should be considering you are 1+ billion people so yea that comes with some perks, I wouldn't consider it your achievement.

On a lighter note the only reason we are having this discussion is because snakes still bite the people who feed it milk. When Mughals ruled over sub-continent it had 24+ percent of GDP (during aurangzeb era) of the world (unlike current India+Pakistan+Bangladesh) and they didn't' exterminate natives who didn't adopt their religion unlike their western counterparts who exterminated native populations so yea you should thank your muslim population (especially those of Afghani and middle eastern decent) instead of killing them in cow lynching, I am sure you will progress much faster if you let go of your Hindutva ideologies.