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India is directly involved in spreading terrorism inside Pakistan: Sartaj Aziz

You have been uttering Kashmir since 70 yrs and welcome to do so for next 70 yrs. As far as terrorism is concerned, if you can manipulate religious beliefs of your people, finance and export such elements to kill innocents here, we at least reserve right to finance your own terrorists to save them journey across the border and give them reason to explode in your country only. It's reciprocative and will be stopped the day you keep your non-state actors with-in your territory. You may have endless no. of reasons like Kashmir, partition in 71, Gazwa e hinda bla bla but we don't have a single reason to fight or love you but every reason to ignore you. It's only a counterfeit strategy to make it clear that you will also lose lives/assets and nothing will go unpunished.

All India want is to leave her alone for next 10 yrs, we want to grow for betterment of our people. However, Pakistan can't afford to lose these 10 yrs because you know that if you lose this window, you will become economically and politically insignificant on International platform in comparison to India. I will take all such press releases by your leaders with a pinch of salt.
Just for the sake of clarity for the readers, you are saying its OK for India to finance terrorism to kill innocent civilians women and children at the most public places all over Pakistan.
 
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sartaj aziz !:jester: is what he is. Wasn't he the guy who got caught lying about dossiers?
 
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This is of course old news. What next, sky is blue? Bharat is a terrorist state that has supported numerous terrorist groups throughout its history. Some of the bigger ones it has supported are Mukhti Bahni, LTTE, TTP, BLA and BRA and numerous other ones as well. These terrorist groups have killed thousands of people, and some of them have in fact killed tens of thousands. Seriously, supporting that many terrorist groups for so long without having western states give a damn is no mean feat. That country is by far the biggest terrorist state in the region. Pakistan needs to declare bharat a terrorist state and cut all diplomatic ties with that country.
 
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My response to the headline is, "well duh..." . What's the next revelation, "the world is round" ?...

Let's not just state the obvious... the Pak FO should be making this a major international issue. Use all the megaphones pakistan has. Instead we always take the soft diplomacy approach.

Instead pakistan always takes the nice guy approach ... "we want peace, we want peace with India"... while the Indians are screaming, "we want to eliminate pakistan's existence!"...
 
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My response to the headline is, "well duh..." . What's the next revelation, "the world is round" ?...

Let's not just state the obvious... the Pak FO should be making this a major international issue. Use all the megaphones pakistan has. Instead we always take the soft diplomacy approach.

Instead pakistan always takes the nice guy approach ... "we want peace, we want peace with India"... while the Indians are screaming, "we want to eliminate pakistan's existence!"...

Agreed.. it's puzzling to me why we continue to not make a big deal out of this, while bharatis take whatever opportunity they can to paint us negatively and put their full weight behind it. They need to make it clear to the world that we consider bharat a terrorist state and point out what terrorist acts it has been involved in and show minimal amount of evidence (Khulbhushan will come in handy here). We have the evidence, we have the information necessary to show this. After this, I don't care if no country believes us. At least it will make our stand clear and unambiguous, instead of trying the diplomatic approach which obviously doesn't work. If anything, bharat is supporting terrorists with even more conviction now after CPEC.
 
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Hindu-stanis are two faced people. They are spreading confusion in this thread, If tomorrow there was a terrorist attack on Pakistanis, these same Indians will be congratulating their army and R&AW. There own Defense Minister is on record threatening to use terrorism as a tool to destabilize Pakistan, there is no question of Hindu-stani involvement in terrorism across Pakistan.
 
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sartaj aziz !:jester: is what he is. Wasn't he the guy who got caught lying about dossiers?


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This smililng photo is the trademark for worldwide dossiers . as per his yesterday's statement.. he is still preparing yet another dossier on Khulbhushan .. many more dossiers to come out from his factory..:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
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You have been uttering Kashmir since 70 yrs and welcome to do so for next 70 yrs. As far as terrorism is concerned, if you can manipulate religious beliefs of your people, finance and export such elements to kill innocents here, we at least reserve right to finance your own terrorists to save them journey across the border and give them reason to explode in your country only. It's reciprocative and will be stopped the day you keep your non-state actors with-in your territory. You may have endless no. of reasons like Kashmir, partition in 71, Gazwa e hinda bla bla but we don't have a single reason to fight or love you but every reason to ignore you. It's only a counterfeit strategy to make it clear that you will also lose lives/assets and nothing will go unpunished.

All India want is to leave her alone for next 10 yrs, we want to grow for betterment of our people. However, Pakistan can't afford to lose these 10 yrs because you know that if you lose this window, you will become economically and politically insignificant on International platform in comparison to India. I will take all such press releases by your leaders with a pinch of salt.


IF PAKISTAN IS SENDING TERRORISTS THEN WHO WERE MUKTI BAHNI IN 1971 IN BENGAL AGAINST PAKISTAN? WHO WERE TAMMIL TIGERS FIGHTING AGAINST SRI LANKA? INDIA IS A TERRORIST COUNTRY WHOSE MILITARY AND POLICE BOTH WITH THE HELP OF HINDU TERRORISTS KILLING MINORITIES IN INDIA. THEY DEMOLISHED GOLDEN TEMPLE OF SIKHS IN 1984 DEMOLISHED HISTORICAL BABRI MOSQUE IN 1992 DESTROYED A NO OF CHURCHS ACROSS INDIA. HINDU TAWA IS RISING TO TEACH A LESSON TO YOUR TERRORIST MODI AND CO NEED MORE EFFORTS AND NEW DOCTRINE SOON
 
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ALL EXPLOSIVES,DETONATORS+ AK 22 +ARMS, USED IN ALL THE SO CALLED ISLAMIC TERRORISTS, WERE MADE IN INDIA.
Yr post No 12 talks of ISIS trying to spread their barbarian culture in Bangladesh.Do u have any knowledge about ISIS and their origin, their motives.
 
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Yr post No 12 talks of ISIS trying to spread their barbarian culture in Bangladesh.Do u have any knowledge about ISIS and their origin, their motives.
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Genesis: The real story behind the rise of ISIS

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Catherine Shakdam is a political analyst, writer and commentator for the Middle East with a special focus on radical movements and Yemen. A regular pundit on RT and other networks her work has appeared in major publications: MintPress, the Foreign Policy Journal, Mehr News and many others.Director of Programs at the Shafaqna Institute for Middle Eastern Studies, Catherine is also the co-founder of Veritas Consulting. She is the author of Arabia’s Rising - Under The Banner Of The First Imam

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Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS) has built an empire, functioning as both a company and a state: selling oil and trafficking precious art while building a formidable army. But how did it become the world’s wealthiest terrorist group?
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The fight of a generation, terror has undoubtedly come to define how nations, people and of course religious communities relate to one another. The evil of our modern days, terror has been pinned on Islam; the devolution we were told of an ideology whose creed originates in the deserts of Arabia, as violent and as unforgiving as the history of its people.

From the moment the World Trade Center tumbled to the ground, media, politicians and officials have drummed out their pre-packaged reality, playing on fear, hatred and revenge to fuel the war narrative, pointing angry fingers at Muslims the world over so that "free folks" remain oblivious to the shackles their states slowly weaved around their neck and feet - one civil liberty at a time, one executive order at a time.

For well over a decade Western nations have followed their leaders in wars and in fear, in anger and in disillusion, forever blaming "those Muslim radicals" for seeking to destroy their freedom and democracy. However, as wars followed one another, as fronts opened up in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Pakistan, terror still advanced, radicalism still claimed more men and more territories to its name.

READ MORE: ISIS could have been prevented – if it hadn’t been deliberately fostered

In perfect synchronicity with terror's progress, Washington and its allies have raised the bar, forever inflating their defense budget, ceaselessly commandeering more resources and more solutions in view of cracking this terror algorithm. And yet, the superpowers have proven seemingly powerless in the face of this scourge.

A decade into this war and terror has not receded; instead it has carved itself an empire at the heart of the Greater Levant, merging territories and communities under its banner. For all its technological prowess and its economic might, the West has failed to curb Islamic State. Instead, it watches from afar as terror militants organize themselves into a state, building an economy and military power to match their hegemonic ambitions.

However, are we really to believe that Western powers, those powers which proved so confident in their own strength that they could challenge Russia and threaten Iran with war over allegations that both stood a distant threat to Western order, now stand clueless before IS? And if Western powers are not looking to decimate the militants in their tracks (as Washington's neocons warned they would do to Iran should it so much as blink the wrong way), how can we not assume that this terror was indeed engineered to serve a covert agenda?

Conspiracy theory? Well not really … US officials have already owned up to creating and funding Al-Qaeda, so admitting to Islamic State is not that big of a stretch. In 2012, then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton very publicly admitted to the engineering and funding of Al-Qaeda as a tactical weapon of war in Afghanistan.

Bearing in mind that Al-Qaeda came into being in the late 1980s to rebuke Moscow's ambitions in Eurasia and keep the old geopolitical ley lines in check, some 25 years of expertise on playing war with radicals would likely look like IS does right now - lean, mean, well-trained, well-equipped and well-strategized. If Afghanistan was the training ground, we can safely assume Syria and Iraq are the end product.

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In a report for Mintpress this February, Sean Nevins wrote, "The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria [ISIS] has created an empire that stretches hundreds of miles through the countries of its namesake. It has accumulated riches that enable it to fund a war, govern a population of around 8 million people, and operate massive amounts of infrastructure in the areas it has conquered."

How does one go about creating an empire if not with allies, and if not that, at least patrons?

Armies and resources to fund expansionist wars do not simply manifest themselves out of thin air, nor can advances be consolidated without strong logistical and political support.

As of 2014, Iraqi officials estimated that Islamic State had as much as £2 billion in its coffers. A year of looting, ransacking precious artifacts and siphoning natural resources most likely raised the financial bar even higher - no such thing as recession in the land of the black flag!

Interestingly, while the US and its allies were willing to rewrite international law to freeze Iran out of the economic and financial loop by way of sanctions and draconian oversight on its foreign trade, IS has been allowed to trade oil through Turkey and Jordan without so much as an eyebrow being raised.

Luay Al Khatteeb, the director of the Iraq Energy Institute explained in an interview with CNN in 2014 how IS "crude is transported by tankers to Jordan via Anbar province, to Iran via Kurdistan, to Turkey via Mosul, to Syria's local market and to the Kurdistan region of Iraq, where most of it gets refined locally." To believe that state officials are not complicit in this "trade" flies in the face of logic.

Whether such complicity stems from a desire to profit from a lucrative trade or from a darker agenda, makes very little difference - when it comes to terror, even plausible deniability makes you guilty by association. But then again that would be to assume that states’ officials are oblivious to the plague they are propping up. I'm not sure we have this luxury anymore!

Facts increasingly point to a grand terror machination. From arming to training IS militants, all boxes have been checked. It is now just a case of unleashing the jihadist horde on the world and watching it spread.

READ MORE: Asymmetric terror funding - How ISIS is exploiting Western capitalism

When not even the New York Times is attempting to deny that weapons are flowing to radicals in Syria under the pretext of democracy building, then you know something has gone awry.

In April 2013, the United States confirmed it had set up a $70-million program in Jordan “that is training the kingdom’s special forces to identify and secure chemical-weapons sites across Syria should the regime fall and the wrong rebels look like getting their hands on them,” as was reported in the Economist. That same month, the Obama administration also promised to double non-lethal aid to the Syrian opposition, bringing the total to $250 million.

In September 2014, US President Obama pledged an additional half a billion dollars to the war on terror in Syria. The problem is, those so-called "moderate" officials never tire talking about aren’t exactly choir boys - they are in fact Islamic State affiliates. Again, this is not a conspiracy; those are the facts, and such facts have been documented at length.

Details leaking out suggest that ISIS and the major military ‘surge’ in Iraq – and less so in neighboring Syria – is being shaped and controlled out of Langley, Virginia, and other CIA and Pentagon outposts as the next stage in spreading chaos in the world’s second-largest oil state, Iraq, as well as weakening the recent Syrian stabilization efforts,” William Engdhal, a prominent analyst wrote in an op-ed for RT.

Islamic State was not accident; it was engineered, assisted, trained and deployed under the authority of the United States to invade, occupy and exploit the Middle East, while claiming liberation and democracy-building.

The statements, views and opinions expressed in this column are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of RT.

America Created Al-Qaeda and the ISIS Terror Group
By Garikai Chengu
Global Research, August 27, 2016
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Theme: Intelligence, Terrorism, US NATO War Agenda






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Incisive article originally published by GR in September 2014. Terror attacks or mass shootings allegedly perpetrated by the ISIS, the question that should be asked: who are the State sponsors of Al Qaeda and the ISIS? (M.Ch. GR Editor).

Much like Al Qaeda, the Islamic State (ISIS) is made-in-the-USA, an instrument of terror designed to divide and conquer the oil-rich Middle East and to counter Iran’s growing influence in the region.

The fact that the United States has a long and torrid history of backing terrorist groups will surprise only those who watch the news and ignore history.

The CIA first aligned itself with extremist Islam during the Cold War era. Back then, America saw the world in rather simple terms: on one side, the Soviet Union and Third World nationalism, which America regarded as a Soviet tool; on the other side, Western nations and militant political Islam, which America considered an ally in the struggle against the Soviet Union.

The director of the National Security Agency under Ronald Reagan, General William Odom recently remarked, “by any measure the U.S. has long used terrorism. In 1978-79 the Senate was trying to pass a law against international terrorism – in every version they produced, the lawyers said the U.S. would be in violation.”

During the 1970′s the CIA used the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt as a barrier, both to thwart Soviet expansion and prevent the spread of Marxist ideology among the Arab masses. The United States also openly supported Sarekat Islam against Sukarno in Indonesia, and supported the Jamaat-e-Islami terror group against Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto in Pakistan. Last but certainly not least, there is Al Qaeda.

Lest we forget, the CIA gave birth to Osama Bin Laden and breastfed his organization during the 1980′s. Former British Foreign Secretary, Robin Cook, told the House of Commons that Al Qaeda was unquestionably a product of Western intelligence agencies. Mr. Cook explained that Al Qaeda, which literally means an abbreviation of “the database” in Arabic, was originally the computer database of the thousands of Islamist extremists, who were trained by the CIA and funded by the Saudis, in order to defeat the Russians in Afghanistan.

America’s relationship with Al Qaeda has always been a love-hate affair. Depending on whether a particular Al Qaeda terrorist group in a given region furthers American interests or not, the U.S. State Department either funds or aggressively targets that terrorist group. Even as American foreign policy makers claim to oppose Muslim extremism, they knowingly foment it as a weapon of foreign policy.

The Islamic State is its latest weapon that, much like Al Qaeda, is certainly backfiring. ISIS recently rose to international prominence after its thugs began beheading American journalists. Now the terrorist group controls an area the size of the United Kingdom.

In order to understand why the Islamic State has grown and flourished so quickly, one has to take a look at the organization’s American-backed roots. The 2003 American invasion and occupation of Iraq created the pre-conditions for radical Sunni groups, like ISIS, to take root. America, rather unwisely, destroyed Saddam Hussein’s secular state machinery and replaced it with a predominantly Shiite administration. The U.S. occupation caused vast unemployment in Sunni areas, by rejecting socialism and closing down factories in the naive hope that the magical hand of the free market would create jobs. Under the new U.S.-backed Shiite regime, working class Sunni’s lost hundreds of thousands of jobs. Unlike the white Afrikaners in South Africa, who were allowed to keep their wealth after regime change, upper class Sunni’s were systematically dispossessed of their assets and lost their political influence. Rather than promoting religious integration and unity, American policy in Iraq exacerbated sectarian divisions and created a fertile breading ground for Sunni discontent, from which Al Qaeda in Iraq took root.

The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) used to have a different name: Al Qaeda in Iraq. After 2010 the group rebranded and refocused its efforts on Syria.

There are essentially three wars being waged in Syria: one between the government and the rebels, another between Iran and Saudi Arabia, and yet another between America and Russia. It is this third, neo-Cold War battle that made U.S. foreign policy makers decide to take the risk of arming Islamist rebels in Syria, because Syrian President, Bashar al-Assad, is a key Russian ally. Rather embarrassingly, many of these Syrian rebels have now turned out to be ISIS thugs, who are openly brandishing American-made M16 Assault rifles.

America’s Middle East policy revolves around oil and Israel. The invasion of Iraq has partially satisfied Washington’s thirst for oil, but ongoing air strikes in Syria and economic sanctions on Iran have everything to do with Israel. The goal is to deprive Israel’s neighboring enemies, Lebanon’s Hezbollah and Palestine’s Hamas, of crucial Syrian and Iranian support.

ISIS is not merely an instrument of terror used by America to topple the Syrian government; it is also used to put pressure on Iran.

The last time Iran invaded another nation was in 1738. Since independence in 1776, the U.S. has been engaged in over 53 military invasions and expeditions. Despite what the Western media’s war cries would have you believe, Iran is clearly not the threat to regional security, Washington is. An Intelligence Report published in 2012, endorsed by all sixteen U.S. intelligence agencies, confirms that Iran ended its nuclear weapons program in 2003. Truth is, any Iranian nuclear ambition, real or imagined, is as a result of American hostility towards Iran, and not the other way around.

America is using ISIS in three ways: to attack its enemies in the Middle East, to serve as a pretext for U.S. military intervention abroad, and at home to foment a manufactured domestic threat, used to justify the unprecedented expansion of invasive domestic surveillance.

By rapidly increasing both government secrecy and surveillance, Mr. Obama’s government is increasing its power to watch its citizens, while diminishing its citizens’ power to watch their government. Terrorism is an excuse to justify mass surveillance, in preparation for mass revolt.

The so-called “War on Terror” should be seen for what it really is: a pretext for maintaining a dangerously oversized U.S. military. The two most powerful groups in the U.S. foreign policy establishment are the Israel lobby, which directs U.S. Middle East policy, and the Military-Industrial-Complex, which profits from the former group’s actions. Since George W. Bush declared the “War on Terror” in October 2001, it has cost the American taxpayer approximately 6.6 trillion dollars and thousands of fallen sons and daughters; but, the wars have also raked in billions of dollars for Washington’s military elite.

In fact, more than seventy American companies and individuals have won up to $27 billion in contracts for work in postwar Iraq and Afghanistan over the last three years, according to a recent study by the Center for Public Integrity. According to the study, nearly 75 per cent of these private companies had employees or board members, who either served in, or had close ties to, the executive branch of the Republican and Democratic administrations, members of Congress, or the highest levels of the military.

In 1997, a U.S. Department of Defense report stated, “the data show a strong correlation between U.S. involvement abroad and an increase in terrorist attacks against the U.S.” Truth is, the only way America can win the “War On Terror” is if it stops giving terrorists the motivation and the resources to attack America. Terrorism is the symptom; American imperialism in the Middle East is the cancer. Put simply, the War on Terror is terrorism; only, it is conducted on a much larger scale by people with jets and missiles.

Garikai Chengu is a research scholar at Harvard University. Contact him on garikai.chengu@gmail.com

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Now the truth emerges: how the US fuelled the rise of Isis in Syria and Iraq
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The war on terror, that campaign without end launched 14 years ago by George Bush, is tying itself up in ever more grotesque contortions. On Monday the trial in London of a Swedish man, Bherlin Gildo, accused of terrorism in Syria, collapsed after it became clear British intelligence had been arming the same rebel groups the defendant was charged with supporting.

The prosecution abandoned the case, apparently to avoid embarrassing the intelligence services. The defence argued that going ahead with the trial would have been an “affront to justice” when there was plenty of evidence the British state was itself providing “extensive support” to the armed Syrian opposition.

That didn’t only include the “non-lethal assistance” boasted of by the government (including body armour and military vehicles), but training, logistical support and the secret supply of “arms on a massive scale”. Reports were cited that MI6 had cooperated with the CIA on a “rat line” of arms transfers from Libyan stockpiles to the Syrian rebels in 2012 after the fall of the Gaddafi regime.

Clearly, the absurdity of sending someone to prison for doing what ministers and their security officials were up to themselves became too much. But it’s only the latest of a string of such cases. Less fortunate was a London cab driver Anis Sardar, who was given a life sentence a fortnight earlier for taking part in 2007 in resistance to the occupation of Iraq by US and British forces. Armed opposition to illegal invasion and occupation clearly doesn’t constitute terrorism or murder on most definitions, including the Geneva convention.

But terrorism is now squarely in the eye of the beholder. And nowhere is that more so than in the Middle East, where today’s terrorists are tomorrow’s fighters against tyranny – and allies are enemies – often at the bewildering whim of a western policymaker’s conference call.


For the past year, US, British and other western forces have been back in Iraq, supposedly in the cause of destroying the hyper-sectarian terror group Islamic State (formerly known as al-Qaida in Iraq). This was after Isis overran huge chunks of Iraqi and Syrian territory and proclaimed a self-styled Islamic caliphate.

The campaign isn’t going well. Last month, Isis rolled into the Iraqi city of Ramadi, while on the other side of the now nonexistent border its forces conquered the Syrian town of Palmyra. Al-Qaida’s official franchise, the Nusra Front, has also been making gains in Syria.

Some Iraqis complain that the US sat on its hands while all this was going on. The Americans insist they are trying to avoid civilian casualties, and claim significant successes. Privately, officials say they don’t want to be seen hammering Sunni strongholds in a sectarian war and risk upsetting their Sunni allies in the Gulf.

A revealing light on how we got here has now been shone by a recently declassified secret US intelligence report, written in August 2012, which uncannily predicts – and effectively welcomes – the prospect of a “Salafist principality” in eastern Syria and an al-Qaida-controlled Islamic state in Syria and Iraq. In stark contrast to western claims at the time, the Defense Intelligence Agency document identifies al-Qaida in Iraq (which became Isis) and fellow Salafists as the “major forces driving the insurgency in Syria” – and states that “western countries, the Gulf states and Turkey” were supporting the opposition’s efforts to take control of eastern Syria.

Raising the “possibility of establishing a declared or undeclared Salafist principality”, the Pentagon report goes on, “this is exactly what the supporting powers to the opposition want, in order to isolate the Syrian regime, which is considered the strategic depth of the Shia expansion (Iraq and Iran)”.

pretty well exactly what happened two years later. The report isn’t a policy document. It’s heavily redacted and there are ambiguities in the language. But the implications are clear enough. A year into the Syrian rebellion, the US and its allies weren’t only supporting and arming an opposition they knew to be dominated by extreme sectarian groups; they were prepared to countenance the creation of some sort of “Islamic state” – despite the “grave danger” to Iraq’s unity – as a Sunni buffer to weaken Syria.

That doesn’t mean the US created Isis, of course, though some of its Gulf allies certainly played a role in it – as the US vice-president, Joe Biden, acknowledged last year. But there was no al-Qaida in Iraq until the US and Britain invaded. And the US has certainly exploited the existence of Isis against other forces in the region as part of a wider drive to maintain western control.


The calculus changed when Isis started beheading westerners and posting atrocities online, and the Gulf states are now backing other groups in the Syrian war, such as the Nusra Front. But this US and western habit of playing with jihadi groups, which then come back to bite them, goes back at least to the 1980s war against the Soviet Union in Afghanistan, which fostered the original al-Qaida under CIA tutelage.

It was recalibrated during the occupation of Iraq, when US forces led by General Petraeus sponsored an El Salvador-style dirty war of sectarian death squads to weaken the Iraqi resistance. And it was reprised in 2011 in the Nato-orchestrated war in Libya, where Isis last week took control of Gaddafi’s home town of Sirte.

In reality, US and western policy in the conflagration that is now the Middle East is in the classic mould of imperial divide-and-rule. American forces bomb one set of rebels while backing another in Syria, and mount what are effectively joint military operations with Iran against Isis in Iraq while supporting Saudi Arabia’s military campaign against Iranian-backed Houthi forces in Yemen. However confused US policy may often be, a weak, partitioned Iraq and Syria fit such an approach perfectly.

What’s clear is that Isis and its monstrosities won’t be defeated by the same powers that brought it to Iraq and Syria in the first place, or whose open and covert war-making has fostered it in the years since. Endless western military interventions in the Middle East have brought only destruction and division. It’s the people of the region who can cure this disease – not those who incubated the virus.
 
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Nowadays the most important story - Origin of ISIS. the answer is a little lengthy but worth reading but still if you cannot read all just jump to the last para for summary of all.

The next war of America is against ISIS but media and politics is not telling the truth.

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The name ISIS is now known to everyone, the biggest threat to most country's national security they are the new face of War on terror since Al-Qaeda. I will call them the new bogeyman of terrorism and the re-branded version of Al-Qaeda.

ISIS according to Media and Politics
A very brutal savage group known for public beheading and mass executions, US military is conducting airstrikes on Syria in a suppose attempt to take out ISIS targets.

Who actually is ISIS & where did they come from?
I will refer to Angela Keaton's answer "founder of Antiwar.com"
ISIS is “entirely a creation of the United States’ behavior in Iraq.”
“That’s how we got to where we are, because of war, because of occupation, because of torture,” Keaton said. “The United States government completely destabilized and wrecked Iraq. They caused it to fail miserably and that is entirely the fault of the United States government. There is no one else to blame.”
"Its horrible because when Saddam hussain was there Iraq was not unstable it was a functioning country"
This is what happened when US entered Iraq
  • They Destroyed the governement
  • Toppled Saddam Hussain
  • Destroyed Infrastructure
And Most importantly left behind a Power Vacuum, one that would never exist if Saddam wouldn't have been overthrown by the US government.
Danniel McAdams from Ron Paul Institute says "This is a historical fact that media dont want to discuss", This was the easy part of the story which states that US created conditions in Iraq where ISIS can get start.

Lets check the other part, even with Saddam gone ISIS wouldn't have raised to power.
But this is what happened :

2006 - ISIS begin as a small insurgent group in Iraq, they had no money, no reliability to recruit and they did worked to create a very limited problem for the US military.

2009- ISIS shifted their focus from Iraq where it was largely unsuccessful to develop a foothold and focused in civil war of Syria even their ISIS had to struggle very hard because the two largest groups fighting against the President Bashar-Alasad were Al-Qaeda and FSA (Free Syrian Army).

Till then ISIS was nothing but on June 2013 the Norther general for the FSA (Free Syrian Army) said on Aljazeera Qatar if they don't receive help from international forces to rebels they will loose the war in just one month. Though President Obama in a response to the question of Ben Swann (Ivestigative Journalist) said US will only provide support to the opposition leader ship including political transition, observance of human rights and we are not going to just dive in and involve in the civil war.

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Ben Swann with President Barak Obama (Image from Google)

Within just a week of the Syrian General plea for help, The US, South East, Jordan, Qatar, Turkey and Israel begin providing weapons, training and money to the so called rebels FSA, By September 2013 American media (CNN, Washington Post etc) state "CIA-Funded weapons have begun flowing to Syrian Rebels" the weapons might not have been American made but were funded and organized by CIA but in less then a year weapons that US said were sent to Rebels were seen in hands of ISIS fighters so actually the group that US said will help them overthrow the Asad regime was sending weapons, selling weapons and sending fighters to the new group called the ISIS.
"Free Syrian Army Pledged services to the ISIS"

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Source: http://patriotsbillboard.org

June-2014 ISIS returned to Iraq with heavy weapons and trained by US crossing the Syrian border and taking control over the Norther parts of the country (Iraq), ISIS was also able to expand easily with the help of US military equipments that US army had left behind in Iraq. Even after getting knowledge that the equipments were no in hands of ISIS the whole world saw the videos and pictures of ISIS with US military equipments but US didn't took any action.

How is it possible for the millions funded intelligence agency of America to not know this was coming how can they forget about all the equipments left back in Iraq, Why were they not destroyed or taken back?, Was it planned from beginning?

There are so many questions that which still remains Un-answered.

Summary
ISIS is not a creation of America's actions which created a situation where they can take a start and develop (This is what media always tell) but ISIS is the product of America's direct action first action of creting the power vacuum created in Iraq and second arming violent rebels hoping they will help over throwing a leader in a middle eastern country.
As McAdams says : US is a victim of its own insane policies, US is hostage to its own regime change philosophy, US is very good blowing things up destroying societies but its very bad in putting them back together.

And i say they are bad in putting back together because they never want to put together they always aim for destruction. Below are some facts:
  • US armed Usama bin laden in Afghanistan and created Al-Qaida.
  • US provided chemical weapons to Saddam Hussein in order to use them against Iran in 1980 and killed him in 2003.
  • US armed and funded rebels in Syria who have become a group named ISIS committing every violent atrocity you can imagine in Iraq, Syria and now Afghanistan.

And finally yesterday (16-Nov-15) President Vladimir Putin said:
I provided examples based on our data on the financing of different Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) units by private individuals. This money, as we have established, comes from 40 countries and, there are some of the G20 members among them,”
Sources:
RT News
Truth in Media - The Origin of ISIS by Ben Swann
Antiwar.com
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Include KASHMIRS GENOCIDE BY THE INDIANS .
 
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They can't face Pak army directly!

One question -- How much do you know about Operation Topaz?

IF PAKISTAN IS SENDING TERRORISTS THEN WHO WERE MUKTI BAHNI IN 1971 IN BENGAL AGAINST PAKISTAN? WHO WERE TAMMIL TIGERS FIGHTING AGAINST SRI LANKA? INDIA IS A TERRORIST COUNTRY WHOSE MILITARY AND POLICE BOTH WITH THE HELP OF HINDU TERRORISTS KILLING MINORITIES IN INDIA. THEY DEMOLISHED GOLDEN TEMPLE OF SIKHS IN 1984 DEMOLISHED HISTORICAL BABRI MOSQUE IN 1992 DESTROYED A NO OF CHURCHS ACROSS INDIA. HINDU TAWA IS RISING TO TEACH A LESSON TO YOUR TERRORIST MODI AND CO NEED MORE EFFORTS AND NEW DOCTRINE SOON

★ Which nation or international organisation has declared Multi Bahini as a terrorist organization..? US? China? Russia? UN? freaking Mozambique? or even Pakistan???

★ Yes LTTE was a terror organization. And yes India did indeed support it.. We played with fire, we burnt our hands, and we learned our lessons. Did you know that India actually ended up warring against the LTTE? Or did they miss out that part of history in your school?

★ Please explain to MW how anti-Sikh riots of 1984 or the 1992 Babri destruction has anything to do with this thread about Cross-border terrorism... Making arguments just for the heck of it, are we?

IF PAKISTAN IS SENDING TERRORISTS THEN WHO WERE MUKTI BAHNI IN 1971 IN BENGAL AGAINST PAKISTAN? WHO WERE TAMMIL TIGERS FIGHTING AGAINST SRI LANKA? INDIA IS A TERRORIST COUNTRY WHOSE MILITARY AND POLICE BOTH WITH THE HELP OF HINDU TERRORISTS KILLING MINORITIES IN INDIA. THEY DEMOLISHED GOLDEN TEMPLE OF SIKHS IN 1984 DEMOLISHED HISTORICAL BABRI MOSQUE IN 1992 DESTROYED A NO OF CHURCHS ACROSS INDIA. HINDU TAWA IS RISING TO TEACH A LESSON TO YOUR TERRORIST MODI AND CO NEED MORE EFFORTS AND NEW DOCTRINE SOON

★ Which nation or international organisation has declared Multi Bahini as a terrorist organization..? US? China? Russia? UN? freaking Mozambique? or even Pakistan???

★ Yes LTTE was a terror organization. And yes India did indeed support it.. We played with fire, we burnt our hands, and we learned our lessons. Did you know that India actually ended up warring against the LTTE? Or did they miss out that part of history in your school?

★ Please explain to MW how anti-Sikh riots of 1984 or the 1992 Babri destruction has anything to do with this thread about Cross-border terrorism... Making arguments just for the heck of it, are we?
 
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