India hosts Balochistan based terror head in its Capital.

[HimalyanKingdom]

We are taught history from times when Kishna was yet to born


Same is my case.

so does India.

India was already there , you got separated from us in the name of Ummaah LOL , finally Jinnah was member of INC, not PNC

 

[Kompromat]

We do need to do a lot of stuff. India has a history of being burnt, we need to accelerate the "naturally occurring phenomena". Our forefathers knew how to make it happen, so should us. Only thing that should save India from us is a techtonic shift which would take it apart geographically and hook it with Australia.

Dear Sir, Indian Hindutva fascists are our mortal enemy, we need to do what a true enemy does. After what they have done to us, only option India should have is to become an inferno. Only option we should have is the time & method to do it. The ifs and buts need to be deleted from our India strategy.

we dont really need to do anything
Hindutva blowhards are doing it to themselves already

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

After 68 years of Independence it is amply clear that there are very few countries which can force Pakistan to do anything and India has never been one of them.

You guys will do what you have always done - how beneficial it is that only time will tell

Lets be honest... Pak withdrew support from Kashmiri fighters after the 2000s ceasfire agreement... which lead to kashmiri insurgents attacking Pak and even life attempts on musharaf....

For the past decade we are bogged down in WoT and a low intensity insurgency in Balochistan with you guys supporting them... now things are changing ... security situation is improving Balochistans insurgency is pretty much over.. FATA has been cleared.. economys on track to recovery... and here we despite Paks "choor sharaba" on indias support to terrorists in Pak,Its ministers statements about sponsoring terrorism.. modis boasting about creating mutki bhainis.. and now this...

The ball is truely in your court... stop sponsoring terrorism... or you will force Pak to sponsor the shytload of insurgencies in your backyard.

 

[Tipu7]

India was already there , you got separated from us in the name of Ummaah LOL , finally Jinnah was member of INC, not PNC

and that's the reason I asked you to search a little bit more since you need more study of history from unbiased sources................

 

[Spectre]

Lets be honest... Pak withdrew support from Kashmiri fighters after the 2000s ceasfire agreement... which lead to kashmiri insurgents attacking Pak and even life attempts on musharaf....

For the past decade we are bogged down in WoT and a low intensity insurgency in Balochistan with you guys supporting them... now things are changing ... security situation is improving Balochistans insurgency is pretty much over.. FATA has been cleared.. economys on track to recovery... and here we despite Paks "choor sharaba" on indias support to terrorists in Pak,Its ministers statements about sponsoring terrorism.. modis boasting about creating mutki bhainis.. and now this...

The ball is truely in your court... stop sponsoring terrorism... or you will force Pak to sponsor the shytload of insurgencies in your backyard.

In the spirit of honesty there have been various attacks on India post ceasefire agreement in which there was a clear indication of involvement of quasi state actors. What did we do to deserve 26/11 Sire? Of-course you would deny your involvement citing paucity of proofs and keep sheltering the perpetrators and murderous baastards and we would deny our deeds citing similar excuses and the game will go on.

You can't fire a bullet at the head and say hey now let's stop fighting - ball is in your court.

 

[HimalyanKingdom]

and that's the reason I asked you to search a little bit more since you need more study of history from unbiased sources................

it's called as Civics

 

[Bratva]

In the spirit of honesty there have been various attacks on India post ceasefire agreement in which there was a clear indication of involvement of quasi state actors. What did we do to deserve 26/11 Sire? Of-course you would deny your involvement citing paucity of proofs and keep sheltering the perpetrators and murderous baastards and we would deny our deeds citing similar excuses and the game will go.

You can't fire a bullet at the head and say hey now let's stop fighting - ball is in your court.

What did we do to deserve baloch insurgency in 2005 and President musharraf directly accusing India in 2006 for supporting Baloch insurgency ?

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

In the spirit of honesty there have been various attacks on India post ceasefire agreement in which there was a clear indication of involvement of quasi state actors. What did we do to deserve 26/11 Sire? Of-course you would deny your involvement citing paucity of proofs and keep sheltering the perpetrators and murderous baastards and we would deny our deeds citing similar excuses and the game will go on.

You can't fire a bullet at the head and say hey now let's stop fighting - ball is in your court.

There is no clear indication that we did support 26/11 had we been supporting that... our intel agencies wouldnt have alerted the israelis (and indians through them):
Pakistan's top spy met Israelis to stop India attack: WikiLeaks

Now tell us what did Pak do to "Deserve" india supporting terrorism since mid 2000s?

 

[rubyjackass]

You already have... youve been supporting these insects far too long... but you see.. it back fired... Insurgency in IOK has be rejuvenated... your attempts to act as "fluffers" by sponsoring terrorism in Pak have failed.. most of them have laid down arms.. negotiating or dying....

Keep doing that and you will force us to do a tit for tat.

Not as much that you would feel the heat. This is the first time India is directly threatening Pakistan with the Baloch stick. It may not deliver the Baloch a nation, but at least they will have a better negotiating position. You have no proof of Indian involvement in Balochistan, even today. Even today, the support is only of hosting a few personalities who are nobody in international books. Pakistan did not even protest to India asking for handing over any specific Baloch insurgents.

India has learnt to deal with insurgency in IOK. The same way it learnt to deal with Punjab. Today Punjab is peaceful and fuming at Pakistan for wasting its two decades. There is nothing new you can do there.

 

[Spectre]

What did we do to deserve baloch insurgency in 2005 and President musharraf directly accusing India in 2006 for supporting Baloch insurgency ?

Probably nothing - this is a murky world of cover ops - blame is not on one party solely and outside of ultra classified files locked in the cupboard with it's key thrown into an ocean - no one can claim to know which was the catalytic event which broke the ceasefire. It could be Indian support to baloch insurgency or it could be Mumbai Train Bombings in 2006 or Delhi Bomb Blast in 2005 or some other incident.

We have to realize that there are elements on both sides who profit from the state of hostility and would act like a spoiler when ever things are getting better.

I don't accuse you or any other common Pakistani for 26/11 - I accuse Lakhvi and company, and elements who support them - may be you could adopt a similar approach? I don't know what else to say.

There is no clear indication that we did support 26/11 had we been supporting that... our intel agencies wouldnt have alerted the israelis (and indians through them):
Pakistan's top spy met Israelis to stop India attack: WikiLeaks

Now tell us what did Pak do to "Deserve" india supporting terrorism since mid 2000s?

Look I could point out that it might be case of one hand not knowing what other has been doing. It could be a clever ruse to create an alibi. What is clear is that elements from Pakistan did plan and execute the attack and they are still being sheltered by the state and being given a royal treatment.
Bailed Mumbai suspect Lakhvi's luxury jail time - BBC News

Should we continue this game?

 

[rubyjackass]

There is no clear indication that we did support 26/11 had we been supporting that... our intel agencies wouldnt have alerted the israelis (and indians through them):
Pakistan's top spy met Israelis to stop India attack: WikiLeaks

Now tell us what did Pak do to "Deserve" india supporting terrorism since mid 2000s?

That is a cable about ISI chief's remarks. Nobody believes in their honesty anymore. He could just be playing to the gallery to show that Pakistan is on US' side. Only concrete action by Pakistan with policy changes can be treated as reliable test of Pakistan's commitment.

And as a small step, there should be action against the perpetrators of 26/11.
Mumbai attacks trial - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
Nobody is expecting that some X or Y should be hanged immediately. At least there should be some progress in Pakistan on bringing 26/11 conspirators to the book. There is no such movement even as your IB chief admits there is enough evidence to act.

 

[Jaam92]

they are following (Enemy's enemies are friends.)
we also apply this in our policy and we should consider both enemy and friend of enemy as enemy. Not Naraz Baloch

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Not as much that you would feel the heat. This is the first time India is directly threatening Pakistan with the Baloch stick. It may not deliver the Baloch a nation, but at least they will have a better negotiating position.

Heat? haha.. the only one feelin heat is india ... your dummies are either getting whacked or surrendering.. meanwhile insurgencies in india are on the rise...

India threatening Pakistan over Balochistan ? hmm.. or maybe india itself is proving to the world that it supports terrorism in Pak.. only giving Pakistan credibility over the terrorism issue??

Im a Baluch myself.. tell us more about the Baloch nation? lmao.. BLA etc doesnt just think about Balochistan.. they want greater Balochistan:

So basically even by some miracle (like if God Himself comes down and supports terrorist scum)... you will still not succeed .. except in making enemies out of Iran,Afghanistan and Pakistan!

But than again... your muppets are laying arms and surrendering.. sad state of affairs.

You have no proof of Indian involvement in Balochistan, even today. Even today, the support is only of hosting a few personalities who are nobody in international books. Pakistan did not even protest to India asking for handing over any specific Baloch insurgents.

We do... Dossiers were given to UN... US also does acknowledge that.. and now your "open" support only gives us more credibility infront of the international community...

India has learnt to deal with insurgency in IOK. The same way it learnt to deal with Punjab. Today Punjab is peaceful and fuming at Pakistan for wasting its two decades. There is nothing new you can do there.

Insurgency couldnt survive in the plains of punjab.... apart from that its was PPP govt that handed lists of the names of Khalistani leaders to indian govt? .. also it wasnt us who created the Khalistan insurgency... it was indra n congress that made the infamous Jernail Singh (to take on her political opponents)... we merely supported them later..

As for IOK.. well you have been learning for decades... and the insurgency is still there.. Pak flags are raised.. indian are burnt... our National anthem is sung .. your insulted... your troops are killed... so basically you are exactly where you started from...

 

[rubyjackass]

What did we do to deserve baloch insurgency in 2005 and President musharraf directly accusing India in 2006 for supporting Baloch insurgency ?

Baloch insurgency in 2006 could not have been supported by India. Manmohan Singh government's policy towards Pakistan is well known. Unless you demonstrate that his government clandestinely supported Baloch, which is impossible with people like Mani Shanker Aiyer in cabinet, you are just being arguing without reason.

In doing so you are also ignoring the actual problem with Baloch. Recall that the same happened with East Pakistan.

Musharraf will lie through his teeth for his country, and in alleging that India propped up Baloch insurgency with the likes of Akbar Bugti, he thinks he is supporting Pakistan's cause. He doesn't realize that he is shoving under the carpet the reasons why a person like Bugti(who was once a senator of Parliament) would turn against Pakistan. That is something to introspect for your country. Ignore the causes and come at India at your own peril.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

That is a cable about ISI chief's remarks. Nobody believes in their honesty anymore. He could just be playing to the gallery to show that Pakistan is on US' side. Only concrete action by Pakistan with policy changes can be treated as reliable test of Pakistan's commitment.

And as a small step, there should be action against the perpetrators of 26/11.
Mumbai attacks trial - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
Nobody is expecting that some X or Y should be hanged immediately. At least there should be some progress in Pakistan on bringing 26/11 conspirators to the book. There is no such movement even as your IB chief admits there is enough evidence to act.

Hand over evidence.. not washing powders or fake lists of individuals (some who are found in india... others mere shopkeepers at electronic market in lhr)... you didnt even let us interview or investigate the bombay attack witnesses or perps.... Also we dont have any extradition treaty with india..

Apart from that how about sentencing or dispensing justice - Samjhuta Express incident.. where almost 200 Pakistani citizens were burnt to death? how many culprits were nabbed or sentenced ?