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India has effective deterrence against Chinese, Pakistan nukes: Former NSA

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India has effective deterrence against both China and Pakistan, but while China’s nuclear weapons are a major strategic concern for India, Pakistan’s nuclear programme “remains a daily source of tactical worry” and both countries’ nuclear weapons programmes “are so closely linked… that they may effectively be treated as one”, former National Security Adviser Shivshankar Menon has said.

In his newly-published book “Choices” (Penguin), Menon, who served in the government of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, first as Foreign Secretary and then as NSA, says the Pakistan Army seems to believe, mistakenly though, that the country’s “nuclear shield permits Pakistan to undertake terrorist attacks on India without fear of retaliation”.

But India’s main worry is that Islamabad has developed “tactical nuclear weapons and their delivery systems” in the short, 60-km range and the decision to use these weapons would be in the hands of young officers “in an army increasingly religiously motivated and less and less professional and that has consistently produced rogue officers…”

However, says Menon, if Pakistan were to use tactical nuclear weapons in the battlefield — as the country’s Defence Minister recently hinted darkly — “it would effectively be opening the doors to a massive Indian first-strike, having crossed India’s declared red lines”.

That red line, Menon underlined, would also apply to the use of tactical weapons “even against Indian forces in Pakistan” — Indian special forces did cross over to conduct the September 29 surgical strike across the Line of Control against “terrorist launchpads”.

“In other words,” reiterated Menon, “Pakistani tactical nuclear weapons use would effectively free India to undertake a comprehensive first-strike against Pakistan” in what is perhaps the most clear enunciation of India’s nuclear doctrine to date by someone who has been closely involved in its policymaking and implementation.

With a debate started by Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar on India’s no-first-use policy, which was earlier considered a strategic holy cow, Menon says “it is the uniqueness of India’s situation that explains the uniqueness of India’s nuclear doctrines and postures” as “no other nuclear-weapon state faces as complex a combination of factors in its deterrence calculus as India”.

Menon says India’s nuclear weapons have always been treated as “political instruments — rather than war-fighting weapons as Pakistan treats them — that deter nuclear attack and attempts at coercion” and the “clearer and simpler the task of our nuclear weapons, the more credible they are”.

“And the more credible they are, the stronger will be their deterrent effect”.

Menon also said that, with possible reference to the present debate, that “there is nothing in the present doctrine that prevents India from responding proportionately to a nuclear attack, from choosing a mix of military and civilian targets for its nuclear weapons.

“The doctrine speaks of punitive retaliation. The scope and scale of retaliation are in the hands of the Indian leadership,” Menon emphasised.

He said while there was a “clear difference” between India’s nuclear doctrine an Pakistan’s, India’s doctrine is “closest to the Chinese doctrine” in no-first-use policy (though somewhat hedged).

For its nuclear strategy to be truly effective, India must develop a “genuine delivery triad on land, sea and air as soon as possible to ensure survivability of its second-strike capability and to assure retaliation”, he noted and added that the nuclear-armed Prithvi missiles developed with their limited range of 350 km “were effective deterrents in our situation”.



https://www.thequint.com/world/2016...ar-doctrine-terror-shivshankar-menon-parrikar

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...pak-nukes-former-nsa/articleshow/55581837.cms
 
pakistan would use tactical nuclear weapons inside it's own territory. it's our right to nuke our own land.
and in case india retaliate for nothing happening on indian soil. pakistan will do the same.
 
both china and India declared not to first use nukes. who will be deterring whom?
 
India will not be able to dare to do nuclear retailation against Pakistan as they know their whole hinduvta will wipe our from world
 
Well, India just has to keep its soldiers on its side of the borders.. If it sends 10 divisions inside Pakistan then it should not be surprised if they are nuked, that is called an invasion and Pakistan has its own deterrence against it.... invading Pakistan with troops is the same as using nuclear weapons , it is an act of war, so Pakistan will also have the right to attack military and civilian targets inside India if India starts that..
 
nope. China's nfu policy is applied to any country, even USA

This is stated peacetime position.

During an actual war, NFU goes out the window depending on various factors.

Such was the case with the USSR during the cold war for example. The US knew all too well what the fast launch IRBM and SRBMs in the Soviet Arsenal pointed at Western Europe were all about.....decapitation first strikes....and factored this in the overall MAD strategy....even though the Soviets officially had a NFU.

That said, China and India will not go to war this century or probably ever....because both sides will lose too much and gain little.
 
pakistan would use tactical nuclear weapons inside it's own territory. it's our right to nuke our own land.
and in case india retaliate for nothing happening on indian soil. pakistan will do the same.
Once NW are used on Indians weather on Pakistani soil or Indian soil ,India will retaliate with full force.
 
China's NFU is only against non-nuclear weapons states. So it doesn't apply to India.


Why would China even bother to declare NFU against non-nuclear weapon states? :crazy:

This is stated peacetime position.

During an actual war, NFU goes out the window depending on various factors.

Such was the case with the USSR during the cold war for example. The US knew all too well what the fast launch IRBM and SRBMs in the Soviet Arsenal pointed at Western Europe were all about.....decapitation first strikes....and factored this in the overall MAD strategy....even though the Soviets officially had a NFU.

That said, China and India will not go to war this century or probably ever....because both sides will lose too much and gain little.


You are back, pal! You are banned quite often, what happened?
 
That said, China and India will not go to war this century or probably ever....because both sides will lose too much and gain little.

Not a full-scale war but I can easily for-see limited Chinese conventional attacks on India to achieve Chinese strategic aims.
 
India will not be able to dare to do nuclear retailation against Pakistan as they know their whole hinduvta will wipe our from world
Whole of Pakistan will be evaporated before you could damage 40% of India. Worry about yourself.
 

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