India-China parallel rise in contemporary era is ‘unique happening in human history’: S Jaishankar

[beijingwalker]

OK, India is more developed than China.

 

[925boy]

I see many Indians in US boasted "Largest Democracy in the world". I thought Indians are very proud of it, no?

cant you be proud of something that is inherently difficult or has challenges? all or nothing doesnt apply to having a democracy - democracy is generally good but that doesnt mean its only good, it has flaws, just like with everything human..

 

[vi-va]

cant you be proud of something that is inherently difficult or has challenges? all or nothing doesnt apply to having a democracy - democracy is generally good but that doesnt mean its only good, it has flaws, just like with everything human..

the thing is, who define what's democracy? US is a democracy? India is a democracy? I doubt.

 

[bshifter]

Of course we were disappointed. It's not like we are China who have had a century of humiliation and being unsuccessful is the norm. Lol. So what's the next scheduled failure?

Why are you asking me for the next space failure? You should ask ISRO for the schedule of the next lunar lander crash. Everybody is anticipating for it. But wait Sivan crybaby said it would be late 2021 or early 2022.

Cyclones can stall last sat launch of this year; Chandrayaan-3 cams will provide live feed during final descent: Isro chief | India News - Times of India

India News: NEW DELHI: The Covid pandemic-triggered restrictions hindered satellite missions throughout 2020.

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

Oh no did Sivan admit India is backward not having a rocket as capable as China?

 

[lonelyman]

Of course we were disappointed. It's not like we are China who have had a century of humiliation and being unsuccessful is the norm. Lol. So what's the next scheduled failure?

A century of humiliation, true

haha but India talk about it?

India is like 50 century of humiliation

OK, India is more developed than China.

of course, they are the 2012 and 2020 supa powa

 

[Dungeness]

Seeing Two Sides of Himalayas is Like Travelling by Time Machine.

The North side: Cities Countryside Schools: Middle school: University The South Side: The 'capital city': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk2eDkCtCUw The 'top' schools: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nAAsGn0jVM More schools: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7FdyH-w3t4...

defence.pk

Time machine travel series II: a 5th tier county-level city in China's poorest province vs the national capital of india

Xingyi city, a 5th tier county-level city (the lowest tier) in China's poorest province Guizhou: Random unedited walking video: vs The national capital of india: I am not choosing by far the worst videos...which you can't imagine... Now, comes the question, how can a medieval agrarian...

defence.pk

Chinese city aerial photos

I am speechless. This much progress in such a short amount of time is unbelievable.

defence.pk

Pictures of developed villages and towns in China

My suggestion: skip the top 100 towns because those are actually cities in international definition. Those towns have population more than 100k. You should start from bottom 100 towns. The village pictures are more interesting but can you add the name of the region at least. Every year, China...

defence.pk

An indian talking about 'century of humiliation'...lol...In what century india is not under humiliation?

They simply don't have the concept of "humiliation", so they have nothing but "pride".

 

[Dungeness]

Indians brought up their space program?

In 2020, India had only two launches --which ties it with Iran. China had 39 launches. Not in the same league.
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India could be just categorized into "Others".

 

[fallstuff]

India-China parallel rise in contemporary era is ‘unique happening in human history’: S Jaishankar

External Affairs Minister (EAM) S Jaishankar at the 13th All India Conference of China Studies said that India-China’s parallel rise in the contemporary era is a ‘unique happening in the human history’. “The two nations have some similarities, especially of size and history but there is also very interesting contrast in many ways culturally, politically or economically. Both are in the process of building a modern nation-state from a civilized society.

India-China parallel rise in contemporary era is ‘unique happening in human history’: S Jaishankar

External Affairs Minister (EAM) S Jaishankar at the 13th All India Conference of China Studies said that India-China’s parallel rise in the contemporary era is a ‘unique happening in the human history’. “The two nations have some similarities, especially of size and history but there is also...

economictimes.indiatimes.com

Its not parallel by any stretch of any definition ! It hasn't been in the last 25 years.

 

[Jackdaws]

Why are you asking me for the next space failure? You should ask ISRO for the schedule of the next lunar lander crash. Everybody is anticipating for it. But wait Sivan crybaby said it would be late 2021 or early 2022.

Cyclones can stall last sat launch of this year; Chandrayaan-3 cams will provide live feed during final descent: Isro chief | India News - Times of India

India News: NEW DELHI: The Covid pandemic-triggered restrictions hindered satellite missions throughout 2020.

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

Oh no did Sivan admit India is backward not having a rocket as capable as China?

In a free country people can have diverse opinions. People are not required to toe the state line. You should find out more about that from the 100,000 Chinese refugees in India. Hahaha

 

[GiantPanda]

These are the largest outbound tourism markets in the world -- meaning the countries with the most (and wealthiest) tourists.

These are people who travel the world, learn things, buy things and then go back to their home countries.

China tops the list -- all the other the nations are First World countries. India despite its "freedom" is not on the list.

Chinese know more about the world and interact more with the world than "free" Indians.

Indians talk about having their opinions but that doesn't help them get wealthier or innovate more or trade more or travel more than the Chinese who supposedly do not have that freedom

Every statistic shows that Chinese are massively wealthier who innovate, trade and travel far, far, far more than Indians. So what "parallel" rise?

The only real freedom India has is the freedom to remain poor and uneducated.

 

[tower9]

So the British built up India like Hong Kong (modernised and developed it) and handed it over to the Indians and in a few short years, India turned into a pile of sh1t.

China gets a war ravaged nation and turns it into a modern country within a few decades.

Its just not comparable. Better compare Nigeria with India.

Most African cities have better organization and sanitation than Indian cities. Compare street walk videos of Kigali in Rwanda to those in delhi and Mumbai. What a stark difference. It’s safer to be a foreign woman in Rwanda than India as well. Especially Northern India which has a rape epidemic.

China and India topics never get old. Maybe in 10 years this will be end.

It will only end when and if China overtakes the west in wealth and technology decisively.

 

[GiantPanda]

Most African cities have better organization and sanitation than Indian cities. Compare street walk videos of Kigali in Rwanda to those in delhi and Mumbai. What a stark difference. It’s safer to be a foreign woman in Rwanda than India as well. Especially Northern India which has a rape epidemic.

It will only end when and if China overtakes the west in wealth and technology decisively.

It won't end because Indians are delusional and the West will continue to feed their delusions simply because they are "democratic."

 

[Dungeness]

China and India used to be in "parallel" swamps, but CPC pulls China out of it, and India is still where it has been. There is Nothing parallel between them now.

 

[jamahir]

That's just a ridiculous thing to say. Not even going to waste time refuting your absurd claim.

But I want to know your reasoning as to why India should not have had a Mars base by now.

Payal (who, btw ?) and this Rohith guy, and maybe you can come up with 7 more examples.. We're talking about a country of a billion plus people.

1. Payal Salim Tadvi was a medical student in Bombay. Hers was a case like Rohith Vemula. Her social background of being a Bhil tribal made her a target for three of her senior upper caste female co-students to do caste discrimination. Payal being a Muslim by faith did not stop her three co-students from harassing her. She committed suicide three years after the suicide of Rohith. Rohith's suicide did not educate Payal's tormentors. Yes, Payal should have organized or joined a progressive group and thus countered her three tormentors. Wikipedia page here.

2. It is not just seven more examples. Which is why Dalit leaders like Jignesh Mevani and Chandrashekhar Azad agitate in year 2021. Casteism is living in the background.

Casteism is on it's way out, it might never completely go away but it is not enforced by the state and increasingly, spl in well to do urban areas, people are shunning those ideas and it's mostly seen only on occasions such a marriages and funerals. Facts.

You are correct that casteism comes to the fore in arranging marriages. Matrimonial websites greatly and openly promote casteism and they are not punished.

 

[-=virus=-]

But I want to know your reasoning as to why India should not have had a Mars base by now.

We should have bases all across the galaxy by now, that would be awesome.

Thing is, space exploration isn't exactly an easy thing to do. Takes money, research, technology.. there's a lot of factors that go into space exploration. Who knows, maybe if every single scientist from every field and all of big industry put every single penny into space exploration and if every single politician had but that one solitary goal, maybe we would have a Mars base by now.

1. Payal Salim Tadvi was a medical student in Bombay. Hers was a case like Rohith Vemula. Her social background of being a Bhil tribal made her a target for three of her senior upper caste female co-students to do caste discrimination. Payal being a Muslim by faith did not stop her three co-students from harassing her. She committed suicide three years after the suicide of Rohith. Rohith's suicide did not educate Payal's tormentors. Yes, Payal should have organized or joined a progressive group and thus countered her three tormentors. Wikipedia page here.

2. It is not just seven more examples. Which is why Dalit leaders like Jignesh Mevani and Chandrashekhar Azad agitate in year 2021. Casteism is living in the background.

So what ? There's probably dozens of people who are victims of crimes of passion everyday. Rejected guy shoots the one who rejected him, cheating wife gets her lover to kill her husband, someone finds out their partner is cheating.. they commit suicide. It's not just crimes of passion either, failing an exam, fired from a job, denied a promotion, bc social media pe kisi ne kuch bol dia, or just from clinical depression.. people will always find some reason or the other to end it all.

The solution is to be the change you want to see:

don't like religious bigotry and hatred ? then don't hate and be a bigot based on religion.
don't like blablabla... ? don't do the blablabla things

but aap hamesha wohi do teen ghisi piti purani baatein baar baar dauratey rehte ho, Rohith Vemula, Green book, some thread you made bc 7 years ago

apni sunao na, ek musalman hone ke karan aap ke saath kabhi hindutvawadion ne kabhi nainsaafi kari ?

These are the largest outbound tourism markets in the world

interesting, could you share the link for it ?