'India blocking China's entry into SAARC to retain supremacy'

[he-man]

This is why SAARC will never work in its present form....
One country using its size trying to dominate it completely

And one country just nixes any agreement reached by others on orders from another country.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

1) If its only about economy, then for those supporting China membership of SAARC, why don't they request Russia, US, EU, Japan, UAE and Austraila also to join SAARC.

Are any of the listed States even interested in joining SAARC? If they are, absolutely make them a part of SAARC!

The Chinese have shown interest in joining SAARC and they are geographically contiguous which makes their case even more feasible - can't say the same about any of the other countries you mentioned.

 

[Winchester]

And one country just nixes any agreement reached by others on orders from another country.

If by that other country you mean China
than the question remains why aren't countries like Bangladesh and Srilanka opposed to China's entry???
and plz we all know Pakistan has concerns about that transportation agreement with regards to Indian access to Afghanistan

 

[mb444]

other than india every other nation wants the chinese in saarc...... at its current form it is a useless thing and has been so since inception.... with china it may become something of relevance...

 

[he-man]

If by that other country you mean China
than the question remains why aren't countries like Bangladesh and Srilanka opposed to China's entry???
and plz we all know Pakistan has concerns about that transportation agreement with regards to Indian access to Afghanistan

Pakistan has concerns with any nation that opposes terrorism,,specifically its right hand man,,the good taliban aka haqqani network.

 

[Echo_419]

Pakistan will again push for Chinese membership at the next summit in Islamabad to be held in 2016. All other SAARC members except India are either neutral or in favor of Chinese membership. India is alone in this. We will not let any agreement take shape which allow India to realise its little delusions of being the mini superpower in S.Asia. Having Beijing in SAARC makes sense as it will keep India in its senses. India is broke, China can also finance major SAARC projects.

Please explain that part
& can we please ask OP to participate in atleast 1 thread he opens

 

[Winchester]

Pakistan has concerns with any nation that opposes terrorism,,specifically its right hand man,,the good taliban aka haqqani network.

Yeah right
Pakistan airstrikes kill 20 Haqqani militants 20 | Arab News

 

[Echo_419]

They are less of threat to us than to u,,,slowly and slowly they will destroy all ur local industry by cheap stuff wile giving u a lollypop of cheap loans.

On topic why not pakistan leave saarc alltogether when it has nothing to contribute??It opposed all the agreements agreed by all other member states on connectivity etc.



Many guys are behaving like kids,,,no wonder forum is going down the drain.

Wait till their proposed Economic corridor is started Chinese are gonna flood their industry with Goods & Services

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

And one country just nixes any agreement reached by others on orders from another country.

Nope - Pakistan has significant concerns on her end (irrespective of whether China becomes a part of SAARC or not) regarding the impact of cheap imports from India and their impact on Pakistani industry, and Indian non-tariff barriers to imports.

 

[he-man]

Yeah right
Pakistan airstrikes kill 20 Haqqani militants 20 | Arab News

Maybe they became bad now

Nope - Pakistan has significant concerns on her end (irrespective of whether China becomes a part of SAARC or not) regarding the impact of cheap imports from India and their impact on Pakistani industry, and Indian non-tariff barriers to imports.

Then happy 4% growth rate for future too.

 

[Kompromat]

Pakistan is a misfit in SAARC. Pakistan's natural allies are to the North and West. It has nothing or should have nothing to do with South Asia.

Imagine if China vetos Indian induction in SCO. Pakistan will be an SCO member, ECO as well as SAARC while we'll get an observer status in GCC too. We don't wan't to be in SAARC but we have to be there so we can spoil your party by itroducing a bigger fish to the pond

 

[Judge]

"Economic domination" would occur once trade was liberalized and SAARC markets opened to member States. With China as a SAARC member, open markets in SAARC would be much less likely to be dominated by a single State, India.

There is no domination in economically. Were markets to open up with China and India, the result would be slightly different - China would take manufacturing, India would take away the services.
There is zero benefit of China actually joining up. But were China to not join up, other countries like Bangladesh and Pakistan would take up manufacturing - because India is not competitive there.

And Markets are already in the process of being opened up bilaterally between SAARC countries minus Pakistan. SAARC only expedites the process as a collective. India is already cognizant of the fact that Pakistan will not let it function so we are moving ahead individually.
We already opened up a group called BIMSTEC(google it) - basically it is SAARC without Pakistan because of realizing the futility of dealing with Pakistan which acts as an outpost for others interests than acting for itself.
Then we moved on and decided that treating bilaterally for trade and economics makes more sense - and that is what we are doing now.

What is the tangible benefit from that kind of relationship?

If increased economic ties are not the goal, then SAARC is useless, and if increased economic ties are the goal, then the inclusion of China in SAARC makes perfect sense.

If just increased economic ties are the goal - then it makes more sense to have Japan, France and US along with China in SAARC as well. They have as much economic justification - as key investors, donors, developmental assistance providers as China and infact larger than China in these assistance's .

And yes - all these nations are keen to join SAARC, US in particular is very keen.

Then what is the point of having SAARC if we are to involve China and these nations? We can deal directly with WTO if that is the case.

Now the fact is that just economic ties are not the only goal of SAARC - it is also a platform for South Asian countries to sit together politically. Including China, US, Japan and a host of other nations defeats the other part of the goal of SAARC.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Then happy 4% growth rate for future too.

How exactly will exporting "fruits, vegetables and cement" to India significantly impact Pakistan's economic growth rate?

 

[dil_dil]

Stupid Indians again displaying their infamous IQ. If China is not South Asia then how is Afghanistan in South Asia? And Pakistan it self is south/central Asia country.

 

[Judge]

Imagine if China vetos Indian induction in SCO. Pakistan will be an SCO member, ECO as well as SAARC while we'll get an observer status in GCC too. We don't wan't to be in SAARC but we have to be there so we can spoil your party by itroducing a bigger fish to the pond

What is there to imagine?
Pakistans induction in SCO will be veoted by Russia if India's is by China.
The only place Pakistan can get in without India spoiling the plans is GCC. You are welcome to join there.