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India Becomes World’s Top FDI Destination, Beats USA & China

Who cares even if Figures are fudged :p:

India can always issue warning in very fine print about the clubbing of FII figures in FDI :devil:

The main point is to tell the WHOLE WORLD that " Forget China Come to India" 8-)

Jim Rogers went to India with his wife. And they had a touching experience.
 
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You had to invite trolls. Few days back i asked a chinese member to explain the 4% GDP which as per him the Indian Gov. is hiding, he still havent replied to me on that matter.

Why Economists Are Still Baffled by India’s GDP Growth | Page 4

before Modi become PM Indian GDP was announced by UPA was around 4%, Modi gov modified it as per new calculation and put old GDP around 6.9% and his year GDP around 7%. So it means as per old calculations GDP might be around 4% :)
 
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Jim Rogers went to India with his wife. And they had a touching experience.
Yeah Indians are friendly by nature. :P

They touch and hug a lot. Even our PM is famous for this habit of his. :p:
 
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before Modi become PM Indian GDP was announced by UPA was around 4%, Modi gov modified it as per new calculation and put old GDP around 6.9% and his year GDP around 7%. So it means as per old calculations GDP might be around 4% :)
I have posted the figures from official IMF site, not from Modi gov.
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How does Indian gov. or any other gov. for that matter, when the GDP formula was modified by IMF?
 
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Excellent. We need massive FDI for infrastructure and to improve manufacturing sector
 
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It's great that India is growing. But bragging articles are not necessary. It's actually embarrassing when it obfuscates truth.

I agree. You see, Indian media is perhaps worst than Somalia in this regard. They highlight everything like there is no tomorrow (whether bad news or good news). But give it some slack. India was a very poor nation for the most part of its 60 years since independence.

You guys make fun of what not on PDF about India... but ever try to realise what we were in 1990 (almost bankrupt, 49% poverty, 55% literacy, etc) and what we are today (21% poverty, 75% literacy and 7th largest economy).
 
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I have posted the figures from official IMF site, not from Modi gov.
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How does Indian gov. or any other gov. for that matter, when the GDP formula was modified by IMF?

IMF uses data provided by India. Simple as that. Earlier India growth was reported at 4, as per Modi new fornula it is recalculated and made 6.8
Any how, now Modi government just moved from 7.3 to 7.5 as per new calculation then why all cry?

IMS was in India to understand new formula.Forget chinese person asking GDP Indian RBI and CEA also had problem with figures!
IMF team to get a fix on new GDP method | Business Standard News

The International Monetary Fund (IMF) will soon send a team to India to get a grasp of the implementation of the government’s new GDP methodology, questioned in certain quarters, including the Reserve Bank of India.

IMF’s Director for Asia Pacific Department, Changyong Rhee, said the change in the methodology was a “welcome move by India” and in line with what the multilateral lending institution had suggested.

A delegation will be sent to India “to discuss and understand the implementation of this methodology”, Rhee said.

Earlier this year, India changed the way it measures its GDP or economic output and revised its economic growth estimates accordingly.

Besides change in the base year, the revised national accounts series incorporates numerous conceptual and methodological improvements to make it more consistent with international best practices.

However, the revised data have been termed as "puzzling" by a number of experts and policymakers alike while the Reserve Bank of India (RBI) had also sought clarity from the government on the new methodology and the revised figures.

Chief Economic Advisor Arvind Subramanian, who had also served previously at IMF, last month termed the revised GDP growth figures as a "puzzle" and said the numbers have been "bumped up" and it was a mystery how to interpret them.

The upward revision to GDP figures has also been questioned by RBI Governor Raghuram Rajan, and most recently by a parliamentary panel.

In a report on India published in March, IMF had said the country has improved the way it measures economic output and raised its growth forecast for India to 7.5 per cent for 2015-16, after taking into account the revised figures.

IMF had said at that time that it would "continue to examine the improved GDP methodology and its implications for its growth forecasts, and further details on the compilation methodology will enable a deeper understanding of India's near-term and medium-term growth".

I agree. You see, Indian media is perhaps worst than Somalia in this regard. They highlight everything like there is no tomorrow (whether bad news or good news). But give it some slack. India was a very poor nation for the most part of its 60 years since independence.

You guys make fun of what not on PDF about India... but ever try to realise what we were in 1990 (almost bankrupt, 49% poverty, 55% literacy, etc) and what we are today (21% poverty, 75% literacy and 7th largest economy).
There was nothing like India before Modi for some people.
 
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IMF uses data provided by India. Simple as that. Earlier India growth was reported at 4, as per Modi new fornula it is recalculated and made 6.8
And that IMF team retained the govt figures quoted in April.

In its World Economic Outlook Update released here, IMF retained India's growth projection for current year at 7.5 per cent which will be higher than China's 6.8 per cent.
In case of both India and China, IMF has retained the projection made earlier in April, while it has lowered global growth forecast from 3.5 per cent to 3.3 per cent for 2015.

Indias Economic Growth to Beat Chinas in 2016: IMF - NDTVProfit.com

Any how, now Modi government just moved from 7.3 to 7.5 as per new calculation then why all cry?
Exactly my point.

IMS was in India to understand new formula.Forget chinese person asking GDP Indian RBI and CEA also had problem with figures!
And aren't all other countries including US and China using the revised formula?

I agree. You see, Indian media is perhaps worst than Somalia in this regard. They highlight everything like there is no tomorrow (whether bad news or good news). But give it some slack. India was a very poor nation for the most part of its 60 years since independence.

You guys make fun of what not on PDF about India... but ever try to realise what we were in 1990 (almost bankrupt, 49% poverty, 55% literacy, etc) and what we are today (21% poverty, 75% literacy and 7th largest economy).
You are banging head against wall mate. It's not going to have any effect.
 
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It's great that India is growing. But bragging articles are not necessary. It's actually embarrassing when it obfuscates truth.


At a time when the Govt is being attacked on all fronts,it is necessary to show off its achievements
 
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All you wanted to know about: Calculating GDP

Suddenly the Indian economy is looking much better than it did two weeks ago, thanks to a little sleight of hand. The Government’s statistics wing made two changes to the GDP calculation last week which have had the happy effect of lifting growth to 6.9 per cent for 2013-14 instead of 4.7 per cent as estimated earlier.
What is it?
There have been two changes to the GDP calculations. One was a change in the base year for the calculation which is done routinely every five years or so. The other was to adopt a new method to measure output. But why make any changes?
Starting now, Indian GDP will be measured by using gross value added (GVA) at market price, rather than factor cost. If you are not an economist, the previous sentence may have sounded like it’s in Swahili. Simply put, GDP is the total value of goods and services produced within the country during a year. You take all final finished goods and services produced domestically in volume terms and multiply this by their market prices to arrive at the value of output. Intermediate goods need to be excluded to avoid double-counting.
In India GDP did not include what that the Government received . Now, what the it earns by way of indirect taxes such as sales tax and excise duty after deducting subsidy is also added into the GDP.
Why is it important?
You can question the timing, but the change in method of calculation has brought Indian GDP calculations more in line with global practise. For example, IMF’s world economic outlook projections, which all of us used even recently to make India-China comparisons, are not based on factor costs. This used to create confusion in the past, with IMF’s projections turning out to be very different from the Government’s.
As for the base year change, it is the only way to ensure that the products and services included in the GDP calculation do remain contemporary and reflect the present state of the economy.
For instance, the latest change in base year from 2004-05 to 2011-12 has included the recycling industry which didn’t figure in the earlier GDP computations.
Similarly trading activities by manufacturing firms are now included in that sector’s share. This change along with better data compilation (online data filed with the Ministry of Corporate Affairs) has led to manufacturing increasing its share in GDP.
Why should I care?
Global investors use growth prospect numbers to allocate their investment allocations between countries - GDP is a key metric here. So news that India’s GDP growth has averaged 6 per cent for the last three years and not 4.6 per cent as thought earlier, may help investors view India in a more favourable light.
Let’s not forget that important indicators such as the fiscal deficit are measured as a ratio of GDP too. Economists say that the latest revisions will help the Government meet this year’s fiscal deficit target. A more comfortable deficit number could help the Government stop tightening its belt and consider budget sops.
With indirect taxes added and subsidies deducted under the new GDP calculations, there is more incentive for the Government to raise indirect taxes and reduce subsidies. This may have an impact on sectors such as agriculture which receive a lot of subsidy.
The bottom line
It’s not always the economy, stupid. It’s sometimes the calculation.
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(This article was published on February 2, 2015)

All you wanted to know about: Calculating GDP | Business Line

After India, China announces new way of calculating GDP
September 9, 2015, 6:04 am
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China today accounts for 10 per cent of world imports, 11.5 per cent of global GDP and 38 per cent of Asia Pacific GDP [Xinhua]
China on Wednesday announced its quarterly gross domestic product will be calculated using a new methodology, in line with that of major developed countries. Earlier this year, neighbouring India also revised the method for calculating GDP that has confused economists.
China will announce third-quarter GDP data, due out on October 19, based on the new methodology.
The move should give investors and policy makers a more accurate picture of the economy as Beijing tries to pivot from investment-led growth in industry and infrastructure toward services and consumption.
China’ National Bureau of Statistics on Wednesday said China is calculating GDP based on economic activity of each quarter to make the data “more accurate in measuring the seasonal economic activity and more sensitive in capturing information on short-term fluctuations”.
Previously, China’s quarterly GDP data, in terms of value and growth rates, was derived from cumulated figures rather than economic activity of that particular quarter, the NBS said.
China and India are not the only countries trying to get a boost out of revamping the methodology. Nigeria last year was declared the biggest African economy after it bumped up its 2013 GDP estimate by a whopping 89 per cent
China’s GDP expanded 7 per cent in April-June from a year earlier.
Questions were also raised this year about India’s new method of calculating GDP. India’s revisions this year made it the world’s fastest growing major economy as China slows.
China today accounts for 10 per cent of world imports, 11.5 per cent of global GDP and 38 per cent of Asia Pacific GDP.

After India, China announces new way of calculating GDP | The BRICS Post
 
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