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International sanctions were slapped on India for conducting secretive nuclear tests in 1974 and more recently in 1998. Dissimilar to Iran and North Korea, who are signatories of the 1972 Non-Proliferation Treaty, the recalcitrant India has refused to sign up to this agreement. India has learnt to live with long term in nuclear isolation. With the furore over the nuclear ambitions of perceived pariah states, such as Iran and North Korea, it would be expected that there would also be international condemnation of India's announced nuclear intensions. It is a state, with a horrendous human rights record. It has shown its willingness to defy international trading laws and conventions. Moreover it has technically been at war since its independence. So what has been the punishment for India openly declaring its renewed nuclear ambitions? The answer is none. On the contrary, India has been rewarded with the glittering prize of sealing a civilian nuclear cooperation pact with the United States. This agreement was also welcomed by one of the main lapdogs of the US, the director of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), Mohamed El Baradei, who called India "an important partner in the non-proliferation regime". In addition India and the US have agreed to boost bilateral economic ties and co-operation in space travel, agriculture and health. The US has adopted less of a carrot and stick approach with India and more of a carrot and sugar cube approach.

In contrast Pakistan received something more like a nuclear wind from President Bush. Whilst he landed in New Delhi baring gifts, he landed in Islamabad only to lecture Musharraf on how he is still not exerting enough effort in the war on Islam. Again no carrot and stick approach for this jackass: merely stick and more stick. This, no doubt, will translate into more government sponsored brutality for the Muslims of Pakistan. In many ways, the visit could not come at a worse time. But when is a good time for a murderer of Muslims to visit Pakistan. The Pakistani military are fighting separatists in one province, whilst trying to control the border in another. Pakistanis are still angry over the recent US air strike on civilians in the mountainous areas. There are still continuing protests over the cartoons of Rasool-Allah (Sallallahu alaihi wassalam), which often double up as anti-Musharraf rallies. A nationwide strike was announced for Friday over the cartoons, and protests were scheduled for Saturday and Sunday. Then there is the Indian nuclear deal. On Thursday, a bomb exploded outside the US Consulate in Karachi, killing four people, including an American diplomat.

America's treatment of Pakistan as a footstool is nothing new. It is indeed expected that Musharraf would show as much deference as possible; and that is still not good enough. However what has come as a surprise to many, including some in the Congress, has been the strength of the agreement, and the warmth of the sentiments expressed between the US and India. This relationship should be put into perspective. India is the world's largest democracy. It is the world's fasted growing economy, and predicted to soon be the world's most populous country. It has escalating energy needs, and an insatiable desire for consumer goods. More electricity, to more people means more I-pods and X-boxes to sell them. America's assistance in getting power into India, be it nuclear or non-nuclear, will benefit none save America in the long run. US-India economic ties are growing rapidly. In 2005, US exports to India rose by 30%, compared with 20% growth in Indian exports to the US. Bilateral merchandise trade amounted to nearly $27 billion. Currently this is seen by officials as way below the potential of the two economies. India needs electricity to drive its silicon plateau. Presently it only has 14 reactors in commercial operation and nine under construction. Nuclear power supplies about 3% of India's electricity. By 2050, nuclear power is expected to provide 25% of the country's electricity. India has limited coal and uranium reserves. Its huge thorium reserves - about 25% of the world's total - are expected to fuel this proposed nuclear power programme.

In addition America is always in need of a few friends in the region. In that part of the world the US has very few friends amongst the people, merely a few pathetic presidents in palaces. Bush was greeted by massive Muslim protests in India. However the mood of the nation may easily be manipulated with a feather in the cap of PM Manmohan Singh such as this agreement. India has already demonstrated its solidarity with the US over several international issues. These include the condemnation of Iran and its quest for nuclear energy. The irony over this is obviously lost in the US, and ignored in India.

Source: KCom Journal
 
Originally posted by A.Rahman@Mar 15 2006, 01:59 PM
It is a state, with a horrendous human rights record. It has shown its willingness to defy international trading laws and conventions. Moreover it has technically been at war since its independence.

. Again no carrot and stick approach for this jackass: merely stick and more stick. This, no doubt, will translate into more government sponsored brutality for the Muslims of Pakistan.

Source: KCom Journal
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Originally posted by Prashant@Mar 15 2006, 05:27 PM
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oh my God Prashant how unfair u r in ur selction of comments. AS u had just selected lines from here and there which u think are offending because they decribe something about ur country, You compile these lines in one para and than termed it an offending post relating it to A Rahman although these lined are not written by him but he justed posted the article from a source so please be fair and
try to comment on the artilce without unfairly relating it to the starter of the topic,
Hope u understand.
 
Originally posted by Prashant@Mar 15 2006, 07:27 AM
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The article represents the opnion of the author not mine.
I find some truth in the article.


But If you disagree with me please post your comments about the article.
 
So now what? No more india-pakistan-iran pipeline? What happened to that? Its all over?

I agree some what with the article but there is a mistake that "the war is on islam" i mean where did that come from. "the war on islam" just declare that once and see what happens world wide. :)
 
Originally posted by Syed Nazir@Mar 15 2006, 02:58 PM
So now what? No more india-pakistan-iran pipeline? What happened to that? Its all over?

I agree some what with the article but there is a mistake that "the war is on islam" i mean where did that come from. "the war on islam" just declare that once and see what happens world wide. :)
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ofcourse they dont want mass Jihad on their hands. They are decieving us by using excuses like: WMD, liberation, freedom. But in reality its a war on Islam.
 
Please,
that comment wasnt at you rehman but at the author and Jana i have quoted what the author wrote abt pakistan govt also.

S Asia isnt africa as some morons think and write.We have much better life here than what some stupid writers want to convey .

Our life expectency is good,literacy rates are good and both are improving as years passs by.

So whats all this govt sponsored atrocities???Which govt in S Asia commits that against its people?
 
Simply put: Achievement of selfish political goals and amassing of wealth in addition to tightening their grip on power. "Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely"!
 
The nuke deal is not yet through. It may be 2 years for the dotted line to get signed.
 
And that would be the last nail in NPT's coffin! It has already been undermined by this 'special' arrangement between US and India. Now, the US loses even the moral right to criticize China for sharing nuclear tech with Pakistan, for example. Now anyone can use US' logic to share nuclear tech and so NPT becomes useless.
 
Originally posted by Sid@Mar 18 2006, 01:21 AM
And that would be the last nail in NPT's coffin! It has already been undermined by this 'special' arrangement between US and India. Now, the US loses even the moral right to criticize China for sharing nuclear tech with Pakistan, for example. Now anyone can use US' logic to share nuclear tech and so NPT becomes useless.
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China has been flouting the NTP since the past 25 years or so, hence its not in any position to act as the innocent school boy. The Indo-US nuclear treaty does not violate the NTP because that nuclear reactors for civilian and military use will be separate and India has to follow all IAEA guidline for line.

The nuclear reactors are for power generation, which we currently generate from oil, thereby keeping a check on future oil prices. As you are aware that the Indian economy is growing rapidly and the need for oil is great.

The US is not teaching India how to make the A bomb, we already know that and we have already made and tested our own H bomb.
 
Technically India has complied to the reqments of NPT,by opening up of civilain reactors for IAEA inspection and imposing a morototrium on further N tests.
 
The Indo-US nuclear treaty does not violate the NTP because that nuclear reactors for civilian and military use will be separate and India has to follow all IAEA guidline for line.
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:) dear do u know the energy programmes of India both for the civilian as well as military are very difficult to separate as both from the very begining have remained integrated.

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Now as for its use for civilian uses are concerned well tell me honestly are u peopel not turning ur eyes from the fact the now India would have all the energy it used to be used for civilian purposes will sapre it for use in nucleare project as now it will use only that energy it gonn get from the US.

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Yes US not teaching u making bomb nor any other country teachign anyone els its not the problem the main issue is when any country dosnt have means to enrich uranium or other related material means it has to wait for it for years or opportunity resultantly it slows the speed and quantity of new weapons but now india had the opportunity to add to its weapons more rapidly.
 
That is the thing! China is NOT acting like anything because in the past it was pressurized by the US itself to stop co-operating with Pakistan on n-tech. And now that the US is undermining the NPT itself, it loses the right to say anything against any n-tech co-operations between any two states.

Ofcourse the US is not teaching India to make a bomb or anything, it is more complicated than that. More fuel in the form of civilian help could easily be hoodwinked and directed towards military uses; as was done in the case of CIRUS.

Prashant: So if all nations start only 'technically' behaving like a treaty says, I guess there's no need to ratify them. That is just playing with words. You are either part of NPT or you are not. This is one of the main reasons Australia has so far refused to export uranium to India (which it does to China because China is an NPT member). I hope Canada also rejects any n-cooperation until India ratifies NPT. It has already had a bad experience with the CIRUS reactor.
 
Originally posted by Sid+Mar 18 2006, 10:30 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Sid &#064; Mar 18 2006, 10:30 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'> More fuel in the form of civilian help could easily be hoodwinked and directed towards military uses; as was done in the case of CIRUS.
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All the Civilian reactors that receive fuel will be under IAEA safeguards, if this deal goes through.Please do explain how they will all be hoodwinked?

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I hope Canada also rejects any n-cooperation until India ratifies NPT. It has already had a bad experience with the CIRUS reactor.
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Canada usually toes US line.Lets see.
 
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