India bans Muharram processions, mourners subjected to brute force in IOK

[hussain0216]

No could be about it, all Indian Muslims are waking up to the threat and all Muslims in Kashmir Shia or otherwise hate India

When you are 1.8 billion and growing you are a world in of yourself so what others feel means little to you

 

[Dubious]

India should not persecute Shias. Shia Islam is the most peaceful version of Islam.Shias are very loyal and tolerant people and Iran is a great country. I have never seen a extremist/terrorist Shia.

Shias should be allowed to do Muharram and whatever they want to do in India and in other countries.

Tell that to intolerant india

 

[Psychic]

Lol. Ladakh is not disputed first of all. And still doesn't prove any of your or other guy's point. Show me some political party allegiance or voting trend etc. Indian deobands are pro India. Dare talking about them.

A little reading will help you. Posting on pdf won't.

Indian deobands are pro India. Dare talking about them

I do in relevant threads.

But Shias are respected in India and the western world more than any other Islamic sect.

Instead of making claims out of thin air, you should've at least read the OP.

Now go and find some other place to peddle lies and to glorify the butcher of Gujrat.

 

[Arulmozhi Varman]

Shias has been the most pro-India people in the valley. Not sure if its true. After all its an Pakistani source. But its true that Sunni dominated govt had banned Shia rallies till last year. Infact Kashmir was the only state in entire India which had banned Shia rallies.

Govt should let them if this "news is true".

 

[-=virus=-]

Don't these mourners subject themselves to pretty brute force anyway ?

 

[alee92nawaz]

A little reading will help you. Posting on pdf won't.

I do in relevant threads.
Lol. Lol. Just hate against shias and bughz e Al e Rasool SAW is the reason behind your motivation. Nothing else

Instead of making claims out of thin air, you should've at least read the OP.

Now go and find some other place to peddle lies and to glorify the butcher of Gujrat.

 

[Hindustani78]

india is a highly intolerant Country when it comes to Religion and freedom of Expression and political thought.

a collection of xenophobic tribal culture and Obsession with race.

Union Government of India is aware. What is Biddat ? Biddat are those practices which are newly invented which are not there in Holy Scriptures nor the teachings of the Bhagwan/Rasul Allah.

Situation during the time of Husyan bin Ali R.A.A war was different, Remnants of the Sassanid were behind the War Code Violation. Husyan bin Ali R.A.A went to Kufa and the battle took place in Qarbala.

Ali Bin Abi Talib R.A.(13 September 601 Isvi – 29 January 661 Isvi), Iraqis wanted the capital of the newly-established Liberated Subha, the garrison city in Iraq to be Kufa, in order to bring revenue and oppose Ghassanid/Kharijites Kingdoms Vassal of Byzantine( Greeks). On 19 Ramadan AH 40, which would correspond to 26 January 661 Isvi Caliph Ali Bin Abi Talib R.A. was attacked by poison-coated sword while prostrating in the Fajr prayer in the Jama Masjid of Kufa. Caliph Ali Bin Abi Talib R.A. ordered his sons not to attack the Kharijites( Greek Vassal Regions) because of the Treaty under the Battle of Siffin, 657 Isvi (8 Safar 37 AH to 10 Safar 37 AH).

The Battlefield was at Siffin, Byzantine held Territories, in what is now Raqqa, Syria.

The Two Armies encamped themselves at Siffin for more than one hundred days, most of the time being spent in negotiations.Then on 11th Safar 37 AH, the Kharijites under Ashtar's command and Caliph Ali Bin Abi Talib R.A. Army, who had their own camp started the fighting in earnest which lasted three days.

In 639 Isvi , Muawiyah I R.A was appointed the Governor of Syria by Caliph Umar Bin Khattab R.A after his elder brother Yazid Ibne Abi Sufyan (Governor of Syria) died in a plague. Governor of Syria Muawiyah set up a navy in 649, manned by Ahlat Soldiers, Qutbi(Copts) Soldiers and Levant Soldiers(Arab Tribes)and Muslim troops. This resulted in the defeat of the Byzantine Navy at the Battle of the Masts in 655 Isvi, opening up the Bahral Palestine/Mediterranean, Byzantine ships were destroyed in the battle, Under the instructions of the Caliph Uthman Ibe Al Affan R.A , Muawiyah R.A then prepared for the Siege of Constantinople.

 

[El Sidd]

Union Government of India is aware. What is Biddat ? Biddat are those practices which are newly invented which are not there in Holy Scriptures nor the teachings of the Bhagwan/Rasul Allah.

Situation during the time of Husyan bin Ali R.A.A war was different, Remnants of the Sassanid were behind the War Code Violation. Husyan bin Ali R.A.A went to Kufa and the battle took place in Qarbala.

Ali Bin Abi Talib R.A.(13 September 601 Isvi – 29 January 661 Isvi), Iraqis wanted the capital of the newly-established Liberated Subha, the garrison city in Iraq to be Kufa, in order to bring revenue and oppose Ghassanid/Kharijites Kingdoms Vassal of Byzantine( Greeks). On 19 Ramadan AH 40, which would correspond to 26 January 661 Isvi Caliph Ali Bin Abi Talib R.A. was attacked by poison-coated sword while prostrating in the Fajr prayer in the Jama Masjid of Kufa. Caliph Ali Bin Abi Talib R.A. ordered his sons not to attack the Kharijites( Greek Vassal Regions) because of the Treaty under the Battle of Siffin, 657 Isvi (8 Safar 37 AH to 10 Safar 37 AH).

The Battlefield was at Siffin, Byzantine held Territories, in what is now Raqqa, Syria.

The Two Armies encamped themselves at Siffin for more than one hundred days, most of the time being spent in negotiations.Then on 11th Safar 37 AH, the Kharijites under Ashtar's command and Caliph Ali Bin Abi Talib R.A. Army, who had their own camp started the fighting in earnest which lasted three days.

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In 639 Isvi , Muawiyah I R.A was appointed the Governor of Syria by Caliph Umar Bin Khattab R.A after his elder brother Yazid Ibne Abi Sufyan (Governor of Syria) died in a plague. Governor of Syria Muawiyah set up a navy in 649, manned by Ahlat Soldiers, Qutbi(Copts) Soldiers and Levant Soldiers(Arab Tribes)and Muslim troops. This resulted in the defeat of the Byzantine Navy at the Battle of the Masts in 655 Isvi, opening up the Bahral Palestine/Mediterranean, Byzantine ships were destroyed in the battle, Under the instructions of the Caliph Uthman Ibe Al Affan R.A , Muawiyah R.A then prepared for the Siege of Constantinople.

What has this to do with curtailing freedom of Expression and Religion in India in 2019?

 

[newb3e]

any time frame given by GoP and twitter fauji kayadat of Pakistan when this cute cowardly or bikao policy ending and when they actually planning to grow a fking pair and something about this occupation!

serious rag tag taliban army is braver!

 

[unbiasedopinion]

If an act result in riots then it should be banned. Good move.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

Ladakh is a different story. Shias in valley are not necessarily pro-India.

Kargalis are against article 370

 

[newb3e]

If an act result in riots then it should be banned. Good move.

cuteness omg such cutenesss!!

how pissfulll!!

you operess people and expect them to be peaceful and not stand up against your pissful army!

 

[unbiasedopinion]

cuteness omg such cutenesss!!

how pissfulll!!

you operess people and expect them to be peaceful and not stand up against your pissful army!

Same cuteness as your government is doing during processions.

You can read the below article from dawn. This kind of processions many times result in riots hence as precautionary administrations world over take necessary steps.

Upto you to understand it or not.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1504399/s...ure-smooth-execution-of-muharram-9-procession


With processions commemorating Muharram 9 set to leave for their destinations on Monday, cellular services have been suspended in major cities as a measure to thwart any untoward incident.

The Pakistan Telecommunication Authority (PTA) had announced on Sunday that mobile phone services would remain suspended on the Muharram 9 and 10 in specified areas of all the cities across the country.

While the PTA did not confirm exact timings, the cellular services — particularly in areas through which processions pass — are expected to remain suspended from morning till 6pm on both days.

A senior official in the Ministry of Interior said that a specific notification had been issued by the government. Without naming localities, the official said cellular services in all the cities across Pakistan would be suspended in the areas identified and indicated by the district administrations and the police in their respective cities for the safety of mourners during processions.

Karachi
In Karachi, 263 different processions will be taken out to commemorate the sacrifices made on Muharram 9. In light of this, a plan has been set by the Karachi traffic police to minimise the impact of roadblocks on the flow of traffic.

As per the plan, on Muharram 9, at 9am, an Alam procession was taken out from Markazi Imambargah, Liaquatabad.

This procession first went to Martin Road Imambargah and thereafter to Nishtar Park, where a Majlis was held.

At about 12 noon, the procession was taken out from Nishtar Park for Hussainian Iranian Imambargah, Kharadar, via the following routes.

The procession began at Nishtar Park and will proceed to Sir Shah Nawaz Bhutto Road, Mehfil-i-Shah-i-Khurasan, MA Jinnah Road, Mansfield Street, MA Jinnah Road, Boulton Market, Bombay Bazaar, Kharadar, Nawaz Mahabat Khanjee Road and then to Hussainian Iranian Imambargah.

As soon as the procession started from Nishtar Park, all vehicular traffic coming from the city side was diverted towards Soldier Bazaar Road from the junction of MA Jinnah Road/Dr Dawood Pota Road.

All kinds of traffic coming from the Nazimabad side is being diverted towards Lasbela, Nishtar Road and Zoological Gardens.

All kinds of traffic coming from the Liaquatabad side is being diverted onto Martin Road towards the Central Jail Karachi.

These vehicles, however, are being permitted to proceed upto Central Jail and then proceed via Jamshed Road, Dada Bhoy Noorji Road, Kashmir Road, Sharea Quaideen, Sharea Faisal, Lucky Star, Sarwar Shaheed Road, Fawara Chowk, Shaheen Complex, II Chundrigar Road and Tower.

All kinds of traffic coming from the Stadium Road side proceed via New MA Jinnah Road. These vehicles will be diverted towards Dada Bhoy Noorji Road towards Kashmir Road, Society Light Signal, Shahrah-i-Quaideen to Sharea Faisal.

All kinds of traffic coming from the Super Highway will be diverted from Liaquatabad No 10 towards Chowrangi No 2 Nazimabad and will proceed via Habib Bank Chowk, Estate Avenue Road, Sher Shah to Mauripur Road. For the return journey, these vehicles will adopt the same route.

All kinds of traffic from the National Highway will proceed via Rashid Minhas Road, Stadium Road, Sir Shah Suleman Road, Hassan Square, Liaquatabad No10, Nazimabad Chowrangi No 2, Habib Bank, Estate Avenue Road, Sher Shah and Mauripur Road. For return journey, these vehicles will also adopt the same route.

No traffic will be permitted to proceed towards the route of the procession from Gurumandir (roundabout).

These vehicles will be diverted onto Bahadur Yar Jang Road and again onto Khan Bahadur Naqi Muhammad Khan Road. Under no circumstances will these vehicles be permitted to proceed along Soldier Bazaar Road from the junction of Khan Bahadur Naqi Muhammad Khan Road and Bahadur Yar Jan Road.

All kinds of traffic coming towards the Quaid-i-Azam’s mausoleum via MA Jinnah Road will be diverted towards Bahadur Yar Jang Road. No vehicular traffic will be permitted to proceed towards Purani Numaish under any circumstances.

All kinds of vehicular traffic approaching Purani Numaish via Shahra-e-Quaideen (except those arriving for participating in the procession having stickers pasted on their windscreens issued from this office) will not be allowed to proceed from the roundabout of the Society Office roundabout behind the mausoleum.

All kinds of traffic going towards Saddar and other colonies will not be permitted to proceed towards Empress Market from the junction of Preedy Street/MA Jinnah Road, Court Road Chowk and Fresko Chowk when the head of the procession reaches near the crossing of MA Jinnah Road/Mansfield Street.

Lahore
The Punjab government has set up control rooms in all districts of Lahore and is monitoring majalis and processions to ensure security arrangements.

According to reports, as many as 33,356 majalis would be held and 8,674 processions would be taken out in the Punjab province during the holy month.

As many as 6,560 Army and 3,120 Rangers personnel whereas 232,328 police officials and 138,335 volunteers are performing duties for security.

Islamabad
The district administration has decided to close off the route for the Muharram 9 mourning procession after Asr prayers.

Traders in Raja Bazaar and nearby areas have been told to close their markets, and the Taleemul Quran seminary has announced a two-day holiday for its students.

The administration turned down a request from traders to close down Raja Bazaar and other markets at night so they could return home easily.

The district administration, meanwhile, has asked the Taleemul Quran seminary to close for four days to avoid a situation similar to the violence in 2013, when the seminary, mosque and more than 100 shops were burned down and imambargahs were damaged on Ashura on Nov 15.

However, the seminary gave its students two days off, and will be shut during the procession.

Deputy Commissioner Ali Randhawa told Dawn that the district administration and local police have made arrangements to maintain the peace in Muharram.

He said loudspeakers are not allowed in the district under the National Action Plan, particularly during Muharram and for Friday congregations. Local police and administration officials will remain at the Raja Bazaar mosque to avoid any untoward situation, he said.

He said arrangements have been made to avoid a situation similar to 2013, and religious scholars asked to help the administration and police maintain the peace have assured their support.

 

[newb3e]

Same cuteness as your government is doing during processions.

You can read the below article from dawn. This kind of processions many times result in riots hence as precautionary administrations world over take necessary steps.

Upto you to understand it or not.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1504399/s...ure-smooth-execution-of-muharram-9-procession


With processions commemorating Muharram 9 set to leave for their destinations on Monday, cellular services have been suspended in major cities as a measure to thwart any untoward incident.

The Pakistan Telecommunication Authority (PTA) had announced on Sunday that mobile phone services would remain suspended on the Muharram 9 and 10 in specified areas of all the cities across the country.

While the PTA did not confirm exact timings, the cellular services — particularly in areas through which processions pass — are expected to remain suspended from morning till 6pm on both days.

A senior official in the Ministry of Interior said that a specific notification had been issued by the government. Without naming localities, the official said cellular services in all the cities across Pakistan would be suspended in the areas identified and indicated by the district administrations and the police in their respective cities for the safety of mourners during processions.

Karachi
In Karachi, 263 different processions will be taken out to commemorate the sacrifices made on Muharram 9. In light of this, a plan has been set by the Karachi traffic police to minimise the impact of roadblocks on the flow of traffic.

As per the plan, on Muharram 9, at 9am, an Alam procession was taken out from Markazi Imambargah, Liaquatabad.

This procession first went to Martin Road Imambargah and thereafter to Nishtar Park, where a Majlis was held.

At about 12 noon, the procession was taken out from Nishtar Park for Hussainian Iranian Imambargah, Kharadar, via the following routes.

The procession began at Nishtar Park and will proceed to Sir Shah Nawaz Bhutto Road, Mehfil-i-Shah-i-Khurasan, MA Jinnah Road, Mansfield Street, MA Jinnah Road, Boulton Market, Bombay Bazaar, Kharadar, Nawaz Mahabat Khanjee Road and then to Hussainian Iranian Imambargah.

As soon as the procession started from Nishtar Park, all vehicular traffic coming from the city side was diverted towards Soldier Bazaar Road from the junction of MA Jinnah Road/Dr Dawood Pota Road.

All kinds of traffic coming from the Nazimabad side is being diverted towards Lasbela, Nishtar Road and Zoological Gardens.

All kinds of traffic coming from the Liaquatabad side is being diverted onto Martin Road towards the Central Jail Karachi.

These vehicles, however, are being permitted to proceed upto Central Jail and then proceed via Jamshed Road, Dada Bhoy Noorji Road, Kashmir Road, Sharea Quaideen, Sharea Faisal, Lucky Star, Sarwar Shaheed Road, Fawara Chowk, Shaheen Complex, II Chundrigar Road and Tower.

All kinds of traffic coming from the Stadium Road side proceed via New MA Jinnah Road. These vehicles will be diverted towards Dada Bhoy Noorji Road towards Kashmir Road, Society Light Signal, Shahrah-i-Quaideen to Sharea Faisal.

All kinds of traffic coming from the Super Highway will be diverted from Liaquatabad No 10 towards Chowrangi No 2 Nazimabad and will proceed via Habib Bank Chowk, Estate Avenue Road, Sher Shah to Mauripur Road. For the return journey, these vehicles will adopt the same route.

All kinds of traffic from the National Highway will proceed via Rashid Minhas Road, Stadium Road, Sir Shah Suleman Road, Hassan Square, Liaquatabad No10, Nazimabad Chowrangi No 2, Habib Bank, Estate Avenue Road, Sher Shah and Mauripur Road. For return journey, these vehicles will also adopt the same route.

No traffic will be permitted to proceed towards the route of the procession from Gurumandir (roundabout).

These vehicles will be diverted onto Bahadur Yar Jang Road and again onto Khan Bahadur Naqi Muhammad Khan Road. Under no circumstances will these vehicles be permitted to proceed along Soldier Bazaar Road from the junction of Khan Bahadur Naqi Muhammad Khan Road and Bahadur Yar Jan Road.

All kinds of traffic coming towards the Quaid-i-Azam’s mausoleum via MA Jinnah Road will be diverted towards Bahadur Yar Jang Road. No vehicular traffic will be permitted to proceed towards Purani Numaish under any circumstances.

All kinds of vehicular traffic approaching Purani Numaish via Shahra-e-Quaideen (except those arriving for participating in the procession having stickers pasted on their windscreens issued from this office) will not be allowed to proceed from the roundabout of the Society Office roundabout behind the mausoleum.

All kinds of traffic going towards Saddar and other colonies will not be permitted to proceed towards Empress Market from the junction of Preedy Street/MA Jinnah Road, Court Road Chowk and Fresko Chowk when the head of the procession reaches near the crossing of MA Jinnah Road/Mansfield Street.

Lahore
The Punjab government has set up control rooms in all districts of Lahore and is monitoring majalis and processions to ensure security arrangements.

According to reports, as many as 33,356 majalis would be held and 8,674 processions would be taken out in the Punjab province during the holy month.

As many as 6,560 Army and 3,120 Rangers personnel whereas 232,328 police officials and 138,335 volunteers are performing duties for security.

Islamabad
The district administration has decided to close off the route for the Muharram 9 mourning procession after Asr prayers.

Traders in Raja Bazaar and nearby areas have been told to close their markets, and the Taleemul Quran seminary has announced a two-day holiday for its students.

The administration turned down a request from traders to close down Raja Bazaar and other markets at night so they could return home easily.

The district administration, meanwhile, has asked the Taleemul Quran seminary to close for four days to avoid a situation similar to the violence in 2013, when the seminary, mosque and more than 100 shops were burned down and imambargahs were damaged on Ashura on Nov 15.

However, the seminary gave its students two days off, and will be shut during the procession.

Deputy Commissioner Ali Randhawa told Dawn that the district administration and local police have made arrangements to maintain the peace in Muharram.

He said loudspeakers are not allowed in the district under the National Action Plan, particularly during Muharram and for Friday congregations. Local police and administration officials will remain at the Raja Bazaar mosque to avoid any untoward situation, he said.

He said arrangements have been made to avoid a situation similar to 2013, and religious scholars asked to help the administration and police maintain the peace have assured their support.

is beef and veggie same?

 

[alee92nawaz]

Union Government of India is aware. What is Biddat ? Biddat are those practices which are newly invented which are not there in Holy Scriptures nor the teachings of the Bhagwan/Rasul Allah.

Situation during the time of Husyan bin Ali R.A.A war was different, Remnants of the Sassanid were behind the War Code Violation. Husyan bin Ali R.A.A went to Kufa and the battle took place in Qarbala.

Ali Bin Abi Talib R.A.(13 September 601 Isvi – 29 January 661 Isvi), Iraqis wanted the capital of the newly-established Liberated Subha, the garrison city in Iraq to be Kufa, in order to bring revenue and oppose Ghassanid/Kharijites Kingdoms Vassal of Byzantine( Greeks). On 19 Ramadan AH 40, which would correspond to 26 January 661 Isvi Caliph Ali Bin Abi Talib R.A. was attacked by poison-coated sword while prostrating in the Fajr prayer in the Jama Masjid of Kufa. Caliph Ali Bin Abi Talib R.A. ordered his sons not to attack the Kharijites( Greek Vassal Regions) because of the Treaty under the Battle of Siffin, 657 Isvi (8 Safar 37 AH to 10 Safar 37 AH).

The Battlefield was at Siffin, Byzantine held Territories, in what is now Raqqa, Syria.

The Two Armies encamped themselves at Siffin for more than one hundred days, most of the time being spent in negotiations.Then on 11th Safar 37 AH, the Kharijites under Ashtar's command and Caliph Ali Bin Abi Talib R.A. Army, who had their own camp started the fighting in earnest which lasted three days.

View attachment 578505

In 639 Isvi , Muawiyah I R.A was appointed the Governor of Syria by Caliph Umar Bin Khattab R.A after his elder brother Yazid Ibne Abi Sufyan (Governor of Syria) died in a plague. Governor of Syria Muawiyah set up a navy in 649, manned by Ahlat Soldiers, Qutbi(Copts) Soldiers and Levant Soldiers(Arab Tribes)and Muslim troops. This resulted in the defeat of the Byzantine Navy at the Battle of the Masts in 655 Isvi, opening up the Bahral Palestine/Mediterranean, Byzantine ships were destroyed in the battle, Under the instructions of the Caliph Uthman Ibe Al Affan R.A , Muawiyah R.A then prepared for the Siege of Constantinople.

Seriously now you will teach them about their religion? What kind of stupid naziz are you?