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India 1991, Pakistan 2018

India wouldn't have been there where they are right now if it wasn't an IT era..

Indians and India invested in IT and their exports now have a significant percentage of IT software products..

Take out IT from Indian economy and it will crash again..

Pakistan should also invest in upcoming technologies.. such as Artificial Intelligence, Data Science, Smart Farming, together with creating a good workforce that can export its services to send remittances from abroad, and that with CPEC and extraction of Gold and Copper from Reko Diq, and production of electricity with coal deposits we already have, we can beat any country in the region by a huge margin..

India invested in Education, and because of the that Millions of people became professionals in various field. IT industry is because of that initial investment in education, and its not only IT, they are in every field.
Over 60% of our workforce is unskilled workers. Our education system needs revamping if we want to increase skill worker percentage. We need to invest in education and vocational/technical education/training.

So It Proves It's Not A Charity It's A Trade


Also Didn't Trump Say If US Troops Moved Away Saudi Could Not Last 2 Weeks.Americans Used To Think The Same Of Pakistan And Now Look At Them

I have proved you wrong.

*Saudi investment in USA? around $100 billion today to 2 trillion dollars by 2030.
*Saudi investment in India? 44 billon in oil and expecting 300 billon in various projects in next 5 years . CPEC is penuts compare to above investment.
*Saudi investment in Israel? Saudi are going to invest 64 billon in Israel in next 3 years.
 
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Lol no sir not really, complete waste of time and not even a single figure quoted.

Did India in 1991 had CPEC???? Pakistan might look down and out for the moment but will pick up soon, so it took Imdia 26 years to reach where they are today, what can Pakistan learn from them?? We dont wana waste 25 more years. Things will improve soon. Pakistan has many friends willing to help. Options are unlimited.

In the end the same old thing. We have friends. We won't do anything ourselves but rely on friends.

Forget CPEC. What Indians could not do PTI has done by creating misunderstanding in Chinese minds. CPEC funding has gone down by around 50%.
 
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Report by:
Lt General Bhopinder Singh (Retd)
Port Blair
21 Dec 2018
Situationally, Pakistan finds itself in an economic quagmire that is reminiscent of India in 1991. A deadly combination of historical mismanagement of the economy and unfavourable external factors precipitate a potential meltdown that can lead to desperate measures. The 1991 situation was triggered by the swelling fiscal imbalances of the '80s that had reached an alarming stage of unsustainable deficit levels, corollary devaluation, and a severe investor-confidence crisis. The Gulf war had exacerbated the situation with spiralling oil-import bill. The net result was a severely depleted forex reserve that could barely finance three weeks of crucial imports. The looming crisis had all the probability of an embarrassing sovereign default in debt repayments.
Amongst the several desperate moves initiated, a tactical though insufficient tranche was sourced from the IMF, which served as a short-term breather. Multilateral agencies were shying away from further assistance, as did the option of borrowing from other countries given the prevailing perception and the structural rigidity of the Indian economy. Then in an audacious and unprecedented move, the Chandrashekar government recognised that it had run out of time and options – moved a proposal to pledge sovereign gold. The successive Narasimha Rao government with Manmohan Singh as the Finance Minister, recognised the severity of the situation and the dire consequences of not persisting with the radical proposal, went ahead and pledged 46.91 tons of gold to raise the tide-over money. This crisis also bore the invaluable boon of 'Liberalisation' that soon ushered in structural reforms, benefits and elbowroom to unleash the Indian economy with the much-needed dexterity, prudence and acumen. Soon the government repurchased the pledged gold and in a glorious circle of irony, 18 years later as the Prime Minister, Manmohan Singh government bought 200 tons of gold to strengthen and diversify the sovereign assets. Today India sits comfortably with well over $400 billion forex reserve and over 570 tons of gold reserves. The saga of Indian economic reforms, option-management and recovery hold invaluable lessons for Pakistan as it undergoes an eerily similar crisis.
Pakistan is reeling under a crippling foreign debt of $100 billion. Devaluation of the Pakistani Rupee due to balance-of-payment concerns has happened four times since last December and led to further inflationary pressures on the common man and debt-servicing is the immediate concern, as of now. Pakistan potentially requires an approximate kitty of $12 billion to tide-over its sovereign commitments and therefore the usual stop-over in 'friendly capitals' like Riyadh (ostensibly to attend the 'Future Investment Initiative Conference') and frenetic parallel pitching for its record 13th International Monetary Fund (IMF) package. However, unlike the Indian crisis of 1991, the Pakistanis have to deal with the additional angularity of geopolitical pressures from the US (increasingly reluctant, assertive and still the largest donor to multilateral agencies like IMF), on the terms of a bail-out package for Pakistan. The US has understandable concerns about Pakistan's debt-servicing woes, especially if they pertain to honour the China-Pakistan-Economic-Corridor related investments. US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo's no-holds-barred threat that it would be 'watching' IMF transaction to Pakistan as 'there's no rationale for IMF tax dollars — and associated with that, American dollars that are part of the IMF funding — for those to go to bail out Chinese bondholders or China itself', complicates matters for Islamabad, as it does have a substantial China-related debt component.
Besides IMF, the only two other Pakistani sources are the Chinese and the Gulf Sheikhdoms. China has already lent $5 billion in the last fiscal itself, while Riyadh has recently committed a package of $6 billion ($3 billion to address the immediate balance-of-payment crisis and another $3 billion in one-year deferred oil payments). Crucially while Riyadh was battling its own insecurities and international perception issues following the Jamal Khashoggi affair, Imran Khan's presence and steadfast commitment in supporting the Saudi propped, International Military Counter-Terrorism Coalition has given the Saudis, a much-needed reassurance. The Pakistanis maintain a contingent of its military in the Kingdom to protect the ever-wary Saudi royal family. The Pakistani military component had played a decisive role in the 1979 seizure of the Grand Mosque in Mecca. Today both the Saudis and the Pakistanis are concerned about their fractured relationship with the US, and in that sense, a quid pro quo of financial help, in exchange for guaranteeing security is an imminently plausible barter. Imran Khan would want to minimise the package from IMF, as the conditions attached to the IMF package could jeopardise his political aspirations of an 'Islamic welfare state'. Already the expression 'duplicitous' has been affixed on the Pakistani narrative as far as the US is concerned, and the same has been confirmed by the global money-laundering watchdog agency, Financial Action Task Force, which has placed Pakistan on its 'watch list'.
Given the complexity, intensity and the previous track record of its national handling – far more expansive, holistic and far-reaching reforms in the Pakistani governance would be required to navigate it back from the brinks of definite disaster. Besides the obvious tightening, disciplining and 'liberalising' of its failing economy, Islamabad would be expected to recalibrate its foreign policy, terror-sincerity, regional misadventures and rein-in certain institutionalised impulses that have regressed the Pakistani narrative to its current fate. The 'free world' and the multilateral institutions are increasingly mandating corrective sovereign behaviours, policies and democratic instincts, before making commercial commitments. The cheque-book diplomacy of the Saudi's and the Chinese are a lot more transactional and easy in the short-run, however, in the long run, it runs the risk of a 'debt-traps' that could have humiliating consequences for the recipient country. So far no break-through policy-correction announcement in the domain of economic or foreign policy has emanated from the PTI government. Imran Khan has the political numbers and time on his side to make the hard-decisions and course-correction, but only time will tell if he can do what India did in 1991. (Author is former Lt Governor of Andaman & Nicobar Islands and Puducherry. The views are strictly personal.)

its a great analysis and to the point..
Definitely Pakistan is in the same situation as india was in 1991, and coincidentally then india and now Pakistan gets immediate fund because of War in Middle East.
india get help from USA(for allowing USAF planes to get refuel in india during gulf war ) through IMF and Pakistan get help from KSA and UAE(for getting help in Yemen, Qatar, Syria and Khashoggi crisis)..
 
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its a great analysis and to the point..
Definitely Pakistan is in the same situation as india was in 1991, and coincidentally then india and now Pakistan gets immediate fund because of War in Middle East.
india get help from USA(for allowing USAF planes to get refuel in india during gulf war ) through IMF and Pakistan get help from KSA and UAE(for getting help in Yemen, Qatar, Syria and Khashoggi crisis)..

It does have slight bias then again its from a Indian perspective but its rare find in the age of trolls and bants
 
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We are in a habit of comparing ourself with India. We should start comparing with countries like Ethiopia (their airline is still better than PIA), Chile (best public transit system in South America), Sri Lanka (tourism 11.1 % of gdp), Thailand, etc.
 
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We are in a habit of comparing ourself with India. We should start comparing with countries like Ethiopia (their airline is still better than PIA), Chile (best public transit system in South America), Sri Lanka (tourism 11.1 % of gdp), Thailand, etc.

Maybe the Aman Ki Asha folks not other folks again this obession with India is eroding anyways
 
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Pakistan has been in a de facto state of war over the past decade so the situation is different. With reduced violence as every year passes, economic normalcy will gradually return. The two scenarios are therefore quite different.
 
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VW is coming to Pakistan . their plant is being setup in Faisalabad ( al futtaim group )

hyundai plant will be finished in dec next year . ( nishat grp)

exxon mobil is returning to Pakistan after 27 years and will drill offshore for gas

british air ways is starting its flight operations next june

vestas ( largest wind turbine maker ) is looking to set up mega wind farm ( 1000mw plus in s punjab ) and is doing met surveys

the whole country is 4g ready / has access to cheap data rates . amazon, ebay , alibaba are looking to expand here

new SEZ's are being discussed on the lines on shehzhen and shall be put into plan

reliance on gas guzzling fossil fuel plants ( tarrif of 16 cents) is being reduced. now only 15 % national grid power is fossil fuel based , rest is all LNG ( 7 cents tarrif) , hydel ( 2.5 cents ) wind ( 9 cents ) and gas fired ( around 10 cents) . wind energy new tariff is being announced june 2019 ( at 4.1 cents ) which will bring Pakistan at par with euro level tariffs . mind you, pakistan produces 1500mw wind energy , slated to increase upto 5000mw by 2021 ( potential 30,000mw in jhimpir gharo belt )

our industrial hub of faisalabad ( textile centre ) is being given gas non stop by the new govt at 600 RS/ mmcfd and electricity at flat 7rs per unit ( to make exports competitive ) .
*exporters are really happy with 140 rs dollar and rising export numbers

food inflation is being checked and is dropping. indian imports of all veggies has been comprehensively BANNED by the new govt. as a result, daily food basket prices have fallen to record low levels ( tomato was 180 per kg in nawaz govt, its now 35 per kg , ) . .

3bn from uae . 6bn from saudia, more from china + oil credit facility from saudis for 3 years and falling oil prices ( 45 $ per barrel) will slowly improve the credit situation and ease burden on ruppee, however, ruppe will be kept weak against dollar to discourage imports as much as possible and give benefit to exporters

indian sponsored FATA and baloch insurgency has been curbed. durand line is being fenced at a rapid pace ( 900km out of 2700km done) . afghan interference is being checked . US withdrawal from afghanistan is being negotiated VIA Pakistan and ANA govt is being co-erced to tow the line. once the umbrella of US protection is over, indian elements in Afghanistan will be checked and eventually terminated

global equity markets like china, US etc are slowing down and heading into recession. that will lower oil prices further to sub 30 USD levels, it will be a blessing in disguise for us to have oil at such a premium ( and that too on deferred payments)

domestically, mega corruption is all but over. nawaz shareef has been sentenced to 7 yrs today . zardari will soon follow. courts are working, PM is working, army is working and all are in sync . there is overall optimism in the air and hopefully, we will out of this mess in 6 months or so

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^ all of this has happened in 3 months on new govt
 
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Pakistan has been in a de facto state of war over the past decade so the situation is different. With reduced violence as every year passes, economic normalcy will gradually return. The two scenarios are therefore quite different.

Maybe merging FATA into KPK?

What is Afghan war/situation or Kashmir situation has to do with availability of water, building dams, education system and hospitals/clinics in Pakistan? If you want to blame someone, blame incompetent corrupt politicians of Pakistan and establishment who allowed them to do the corruption and launder money to Offshore accounts.
 
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VW is coming to Pakistan . their plant is being setup in Faisalabad ( al futtaim group )

hyundai plant will be finished in dec next year . ( nishat grp)

exxon mobil is returning to Pakistan after 27 years and will drill offshore for gas

british air ways is starting its flight operations next june

vestas ( largest wind turbine maker ) is looking to set up mega wind farm ( 1000mw plus in s punjab ) and is doing met surveys

the whole country is 4g ready / has access to cheap data rates . amazon, ebay , alibaba are looking to expand here

new SEZ's are being discussed on the lines on shehzhen and shall be put into plan

reliance on gas guzzling fossil fuel plants ( tarrif of 16 cents) is being reduced. now only 15 % national grid power is fossil fuel based , rest is all LNG ( 7 cents tarrif) , hydel ( 2.5 cents ) wind ( 9 cents ) and gas fired ( around 10 cents) . wind energy new tariff is being announced june 2019 ( at 4.1 cents ) which will bring Pakistan at par with euro level tariffs . mind you, pakistan produces 1500mw wind energy , slated to increase upto 5000mw by 2021 ( potential 30,000mw in jhimpir gharo belt )

our industrial hub of faisalabad ( textile centre ) is being given gas non stop by the new govt at 600 RS/ mmcfd and electricity at flat 7rs per unit ( to make exports competitive ) .
*exporters are really happy with 140 rs dollar and rising export numbers

food inflation is being checked and is dropping. indian imports of all veggies has been comprehensively BANNED by the new govt. as a result, daily food basket prices have fallen to record low levels ( tomato was 180 per kg in nawaz govt, its now 35 per kg , ) . .

3bn from uae . 6bn from saudia, more from china + oil credit facility from saudis for 3 years and falling oil prices ( 45 $ per barrel) will slowly improve the credit situation and ease burden on ruppee, however, ruppe will be kept weak against dollar to discourage imports as much as possible and give benefit to exporters

indian sponsored FATA and baloch insurgency has been curbed. durand line is being fenced at a rapid pace ( 900km out of 2700km done) . afghan interference is being checked . US withdrawal from afghanistan is being negotiated VIA Pakistan and ANA govt is being co-erced to tow the line. once the umbrella of US protection is over, indian elements in Afghanistan will be checked and eventually terminated

global equity markets like china, US etc are slowing down and heading into recession. that will lower oil prices further to sub 30 USD levels, it will be a blessing in disguise for us to have oil at such a premium ( and that too on deferred payments)

domestically, mega corruption is all but over. nawaz shareef has been sentenced to 7 yrs today . zardari will soon follow. courts are working, PM is working, army is working and all are in sync . there is overall optimism in the air and hopefully, we will out of this mess in 6 months or so

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^ all of this has happened in 3 months on new govt

All looking good but think of it like a fragile glass which can break anytime. We don’t need temporary solutions, we need permanent fix to bring long-term stability. In order to do that, we need to create new laws which will bring political and economic stability and reduce corruption. We need to revamp our political and judicial system. We need National Education and Healthcare policies. We need more administrative units, more right to the districts and good local body system. We also need to modify 18 amendment.
 
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In the end the same old thing. We have friends. We won't do anything ourselves but rely on friends.

Forget CPEC. What Indians could not do PTI has done by creating misunderstanding in Chinese minds. CPEC funding has gone down by around 50%.

PTI has created no misunderstanding. The funding will pick up. Thats temporary.

Pakistan in 2018 is well ahead of India in 1991. Indian commentators should get rid of this urge for false equivalence.

By light years to be honest.
 
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