In Search of India's Soul

[peagle]

Both of them are not dumb. They are just scratching each other's back. Like many other here. The majority infact. Let them.

For others: India does not export cow meat. Beef includes meat of all bovine cattle (I am a vegetarian and would personally like all meat banned)

lol
you people and your fantasy world,
I suppose you are delivering chicken to the people who ordered beef.

You cannot hide export figures, how can you pretend something worth billions is not being exported, please get a life.
The buyer/importer also has their figures, they know what they bought.

Your nation lives on lies, you are unable to recognise what's the truth anymore, all you do is
lie
lie
lie
lie
lie
lie

Ahh ok the old cow vs buffalo issue. Sure - Hindus believe certain bovines deserve divine standard protection but others can have pain inflicted on them willy nilly.

Serious question then - What happens to the child of a buffalo and a cow?

These are also Hindus, its a massive thing in Nepal and parts of India.
These are facts, not their fiction.

@Mujahid911

 

[khansaheeb]

Only time India ever had a soul is when Muslims ruled it.

 

[peagle]

South Asian religion impressed us: one group of guys don't eat pork, another group guys don't eat beef. You guys are a good couple, competing in every aspect even food material.

In Pakistan, they do not kill or stop people from what they want to eat,
Their choice, people are free to choose what they want to, or do not want to eat.

In India, they kill and torture people, for eating meat.
massive difference.

At the same time,
India exports beef worth billions of dollars, and leather worth hundreds of millions,
that's hypocrisy to the extreme.

 

[Place Of Space]

In Pakistan, they do not kill or stop people from what they want to eat,
Their choice, people are free to choose what they want to, or do not want to eat.

In India, they kill and torture people, for eating meat.
massive difference.

At the same time,
India exports beef worth billions of dollars, and leather worth hundreds of millions,
that's hypocrisy to the extreme.

That's not bad, right? India still have dozens millions of people in other religion, it's good they can live relying on feeding, eating and exporting cows.

 

[peagle]

That's not bad, right? India still have dozens millions of people in other religion, it's good they can live relying on feeding, eating and exporting cows.

I think you are misunderstanding the issue,
India has millions of non-Hindus, but they are being oppressed, for practicing their own religions, for eating beef,
whilst, India also exports beef worth billions, do you not see the double standards?
The hypocracy.

Pakistan also has millions of non-Muslims, Pork and alcohol is forbidden, but the minorities are free to eat pork, and drink alcohol. No one stops them.
Pork is produced in Pakistan and so is alcohol, no one stops the minority groups from doing what they want. that's fair justice.

Surely you cannot be that blind, there is a clear difference in the situation in both countries.

 

[Place Of Space]

I think you are misunderstanding the issue,
India has millions of non-Hindus, but they are being oppressed, for practicing their own religions, for eating beef,
whilst, India also exports beef worth billions, do you not see the double standards?
The hypocracy.

Pakistan also has millions of non-Muslims, Pork and alcohol is forbidden, but the minorities are free to eat pork, and drink alcohol. No one stops them.
Pork is produced in Pakistan and so is alcohol, no one stops the minority groups from doing what they want. that's fair justice.

Surely you cannot be that blind, there is a clear difference in the situation in both countries.

Has india society's religion oppression come to this level? No, I don't think its society so serious, though I dislike some Indian arrogance.

 

[peagle]

Has india society's religion oppression come to this level? No, I don't think its society so serious, though I dislike some Indian arrogance.

Yes it has, the oppression has gone to level of persecution.

You are seriously misinformed, watch the documentary I posted in the first post, and you will also find hundreds and thousands of articles with a simple google search and on YouTube.

Ignorance is never bliss.
If you don't care then, please don't comment on things you don't know enough about,
if you do care, then please make a little effort to find the truth.

 

[Place Of Space]

Yes it has, the oppression has gone to level of persecution.

You are seriously misinformed, watch the documentary I posted in the first post, and you will also find hundreds and thousands of articles with a simple google search and on YouTube.

Ignorance is never bliss.
If you don't care then, please don't comment on things you don't know enough about,
if you do care, then please make a little effort to find the truth.

I comment this based on my angle of view. This is very weird China and South Asia relationship. Govt-Govt, China and Pakistan have better relationship, but people to people relationship, Chinese and Indian have more mutual association, and easier to get along with.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

lol
you people and your fantasy world,
I suppose you are delivering chicken to the people who ordered beef.

You cannot hide export figures, how can you pretend something worth billions is not being exported, please get a life.
The buyer/importer also has their figures, they know what they bought.

Your nation lives on lies, you are unable to recognise what's the truth anymore, all you do is
lie
lie
lie
lie
lie
lie


These are also Hindus, its a massive thing in Nepal and parts of India.
These are facts, not their fiction.

@Mujahid911

Friggin disgusting. This weird barbaric ritual of slaughtering all these intelligent animals in front of each other, calves in front of parents, walking around with blades held aloft. Do these pathetic people not think the animals are terrified by their heroic posturing.

Islam is very clear, as are other abrahamic faiths - slaughtering should be quick and not in view of other animals, otherwise it isn't halal/kosher.

This barbarism is what savages used to do millennia ago. May as well bathe in their blood while you're at it.

Hinduism is a complete hypocrisy, from selectively torturing animals on certain days while crying "animal welfare and vegetarianism" on other days, worshipping one bovine species but slaughtering another willingly despite their anatomy being near identical. It's no surprise that they bend every rule of morality to suit their agenda in every sphere of life. This is the essence of chanakiya.

 

[peagle]

Friggin disgusting. This weird barbaric ritual of slaughtering all these intelligent animals in front of each other, calves in front of parents, walking around with blades held aloft. Do these pathetic people not think the animals are terrified by their heroic posturing.

Islam is very clear, as are other abrahamic faiths - slaughtering should be quick and not in view of other animals, otherwise it isn't halal/kosher.

This barbarism is what savages used to do millennia ago. May as well bathe in their blood while you're at it.

Hinduism is a complete hypocrisy, from selectively torturing animals on certain days while crying "animal welfare and vegetarianism" on other days, worshipping one bovine species but slaughtering another willingly despite their anatomy being near identical. It's no surprise that they bend every rule of morality to suit their agenda in every sphere of life. This is the essence of chanakiya.

Yeh,
and they even took him from us lol
Chanakiya was from Taxila, and taught there, the first university in the world, from there he went to Bihar.
Why is it all the cunning, deceiving lot get attracted to India,
Possibly a case of like attracts like.

 

[Chhatrapati]

Ahh ok the old cow vs buffalo issue.

These are not issues lol! You're the one who talked about hypocrisy when there isn't one.

What happens to the child of a buffalo and a cow?

How is that any relevant?

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Yeh,
and they even took him from us lol
Chanakiya was from Taxila, and taught there, the first university in the world, from there he went to Bihar.
Why is it all the cunning, deceiving lot get attracted to India,
Possibly a case of like attracts like.

Good point and always worth reminding them. Chanakiya was Pakistani.

Pingala was another great Pakistani thinker of yesteryear. There are certainly others whom hindutva have falsely usurped that others on this forum would be more knowledgeable of.

The problem with the brahminist empire is that they simply don't know how to apply and wield this ancient knowledge in a way that benefits mankind. Instead, they take ancient teachings and modern technology and a cultist slave-driver mindset, which altogether create the fascist monstrosity that is hindutva.

 

[peagle]

I comment this based on my angle of view. This is very weird China and South Asia relationship. Govt-Govt, China and Pakistan have better relationship, but people to people relationship, Chinese and Indian have more mutual association, and easier to get along with.

I understand that, the social differences and the whole reasons behind it, but it would go complete off-topic.
But, just because you get along with someone, it does not mean the horrors they do are forgiven.

Even a murdered is someone's friend, son or daughter, they have done good to other people in their lives, but once you kill, you are a murderer. The same logic stands for a rapist, a child molester and so on.

Everything has to be assessed by virtue of the situation, and with respect to the truth. No matter, who you may or may not get along with cross culturally, the fact remains if they are oppressing and persecuting, then it stands alone, and has to be pointed out.

Here in UK, I have more Indian friends then Pakistani friends, so what, does that mean I turn a blind eye to everything happening in India, and start making excuses. If there are reasons, then yes one tries to understand, but, in India, it is just about pure hate, nothing else.
You cannot go in front of a judge and say, that person may have killed someone but he is so nice with me, and helped me out so much, so please let him go, he is ok.

It doesn't make sense, right? wrong is wrong

 

[masterchief_mirza]

These are not issues lol! You're the one who talked about hypocrisy when there isn't one.


How is that any relevant?

Unfortunately they are issues when the matter is approached logically.

Why in a secular state should any non-believing human being be killed for slaughtering a cow, when the brother buffalo of that cow can be killed brutally and mercilessly?

If your personal belief is that the cow is holy and its brother the buffalo is not, fair enough, but why should someone else who applies SIMPLE SCIENTIFIC LOGIC and concludes that there is no difference in the nervous system or sense of pain felt by these two animals belonging to the same taxonomical family be punished for slaughtering both of them?

Nobody would mind if Hindustan actually applied some consistent logic. Either protect all bovines in the name of "ooohhh we mustn't cause pain to our goddddd", or let all bovines be slaughtered in as humane a fashion as is reasonable.

 

[Chhatrapati]

Unfortunately they are issues when the matter is approached logically.

Why in a secular state should any non-believing human being be killed for slaughtering a cow, when the brother buffalo of that cow can be killed brutally and mercilessly?

If your personal belief is that the cow is holy and its brother the buffalo is not, fair enough, but why should someone else who applies SIMPLE SCIENTIFIC LOGIC and concludes that there is no difference in the nervous system or sense of pain felt by these two animals belonging to the same taxonomical family be punished for slaughtering both of them?

Nobody would mind if Hindustan actually applied some consistent logic. Either protect all bovines in the name of "ooohhh we mustn't cause pain to our goddddd", or let all bovines be slaughtered in as humane a fashion as is reasonable.

Here goes the logical approach by Mirza. Lol!

Secular state non-believer killed for cow slaughter, what's wrong in killing cow because buffalo is also getting slaughtered.

You really need to approach yourself logically and find logic in the points you're making, did you establish Indian hypocrisy yet?