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Chinese authorities have moved to censor news about the Delhi gang rape and ensuing protests after the incident triggered a heated debate online between State media outlets and pro-democracy voices.

The incident and the protests in New Delhi in recent days have received wide attention in China. While the brutal attack was initially highlighted by Communist Party-run outlets as indicative of the failures of India’s democratic system to ensure stability, the following protests in New Delhi triggered calls from pro-reform bloggers for the Chinese government to learn from India and to allow the public to express its voice.

The rape case was one of the most discussed topics in Chinese microblogs over the past week, prompting thousands of posts and comments. By Sunday, however, the authorities appeared to move to limit the debate: on Monday, a search for the topic triggered a message on Sina Weibo – a popular Twitter-equivalent used by more than 300 million people – saying the results could not be displayed according to regulations. The message is usually seen as an indicator of a topic being censored by the authorities.

Hu Xijin, controversial editor of the nationalistic party-run Global Times, argued last week in a widely criticised message to his three million followers on Weibo that the case had shown the limits of rule of law in a democracy. “For a backward society, no law can help,” he said. “India calls itself the world’s biggest democratic State, but it is also one of the most disorderly. In the 1960s, China and India had the same level of development, but now China’s GDP is three times India’s.”

Another commentary published in the newspaper on Monday echoed Mr. Hu’s views, describing India as “an inefficient and unequal democracy.” “The Indian democratic system seemingly can’t solve these problems but provides legitimacy for [rulers]. India’s democracy is now manipulated by a small number of elite and interest groups … Efficient democracy means more than electoral politics.”

That Communist Party media outlets and academics often point to India’s “disorderliness” as an outcome of the democratic system and to justify one-party rule is a sore point among many liberal Chinese who are pushing for democratic reforms.

The government-run Beijing Youth Daily in a Weibo message said “the current problem of India is fundamentally the problem of Indian democracy, which is reflected on the weak regime and the invalid social management.”

One Internet user in northeastern Jilin responded that “at least India allows protest. If such things happen in China, will we have a large scale protest?” Feng Zetang, a blogger in Guangzhou, added, referring to a case in Henan last year where local officials were found to have raped school students: “Chinese officials harass female children; however the government could not care less.”

Bruce Wang, another microblogger, wrote that “China Central Television [the official channel] intensively reports the rape case in India. But please don’t turn a blind eye to our own country’s sexual harassment of children!”

Kai-Fu Lee, former founding president of Google China, who has 24 million followers on Weibo and maintains a hugely popular blog, wrote that “the system [in India] allows the people to take to the street and to expose the scar, so the government has to face it squarely”.

“If the scar is hid firmly,” he added, cryptically, “it will instead fester and become inflamed, and by that time, it would be too late to face it.”

Keywords: Delhi gang-rape case, gang-rape victim death, China reaction, Chinese media, pro-democracy voices, Chinese censorship

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I agree that Indian democracy is hijacked by some elites and their family members. But as compared to the Chinese dictatorship, we are happy to be free and able to express our feelings in broad daylight in front of India gate. Best of luck with that in Beijing or Shanghai :bunny:
 
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Looks like Chinese CCP is in soup with this incident, CCP propaganda :rofl:


That Blogger who is calling India a backward society should examine the comments of some dumb guys from China to know his society status.
 
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When i read the Global Times article, i wondered how the CCP could stoop so low to use this sad incident of fatal rape as an attempt to point scoring.

After reading the entire article, it made made sense, specifically these parts :

The Indian democratic system seemingly can't solve these problems but provides legitimacy for them.

India's democracy is now manipulated by a small number of elite and interest groups. This easily ignites massive grass-roots protests like the current ones and the anti-corruption rallies in August.

Though the article mentions certain statistics related to rape in India, surprisingly the statistics on the Chinese side seem absent

Looks like lousy propaganda got caught by the balls.

On the whole, the above attitude of CCP begs the question for CCP whether there is genuine concern about Nanking atrocities or that too is a mere point scoring political issue?
 
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The OP didn't surprise me

I agree that Indian democracy is hijacked by some elites and their family members. But as compared to the Chinese dictatorship, we are happy to be free and able to express our feelings in broad daylight in front of India gate. Best of luck with that in Beijing or Shanghai :bunny:

On Chinese blogger has pointed out same thing. I believe Hundreds of Chinese bloggers think same, but have not posted so. They are not as much ignorant and blind supporters of the CCP as many tend to believe.

RIP to the dead girl. We should make Judo and Twaykando make compulsory for girls and boys in school. If-god forbid- a girl travelling with boy gets attacked by group of lusty men and if both know Judo/Twaykando, they can fight that group and can save themselves.
 
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I agree that Indian democracy is hijacked by some elites and their family members. But as compared to the Chinese dictatorship, we are happy to be free and able to express our feelings in broad daylight in front of India gate. Best of luck with that in Beijing or Shanghai :bunny:

your castes freedom?India was voted one of the worst places for women to live on this planet,you can call that freedom but at least we don't kill women because of dowry,in our society,men pay everything for marriage.
 
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The article is more like an Indian propaganda. Or Indians just think too high about themselves.

Reported intensively? You can find more reports about Indian Lunar satellite, which Indians said there was no report at all.

Propaganda? Why CCP uses a English website as propaganda? That's stupid. Is there any Chinese using Global Times as a news source? I actually don't know any, not even one.

How about check largest Chinese websites, Sina, QQ, 163 etc

339 comments for Indian Rape Case
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Most local Chinese news can easily get tens of thousands. For example, 19395 comments for a possible corruption case in Zhengzhou city.
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The reality is: few people really care things happened in another country.
 
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When i read the Global Times article, i wondered how the CCP could stoop so low to use this sad incident of fatal rape as an attempt to point scoring.

After reading the entire article, it made made sense, Strangely the article made no reference to the wide protests that took place , even factual reporting was not mentioned in the article.

Even there was no proper analysis of rape incidents in China or India, just a factual reporting of number of rape cases in Delhi.

Looks like lousy propaganda got caught by the balls.

On the whole, the above attitude of CCP begs the question for CCP whether there is genuine concern about Nanking atrocities or that too is a mere point scoring political issue?

Spot on mate Chinese always try to look down upon others thinking themselves having some sort of delusional status.
 
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your castes freedom?India was voted one of the worst places for women to live on this planet,you can call that freedom but at least we don't kill women because of dowry,in our society,men pay everything for marriage.
Well you have other social evils. We can get into argument over comparison and it will become troll fest.

But just think about this without bias, did Global Times reported the entire situation. As mentioned by one of the poster, they didn't report, huge protests all around the country, youth on streets, candle light march, government forming a committee to amend the laws, asking PEOPLE's OPINION, yeah exactly, people's opinion about what they want as the punishment.

We can bash each other a lot but we shouldn't go away from the fact that indeed there are many problems for Indian women but also that Global Times did the cherry picking.

You can't ignore social structure, variation in languages, religion and related practices, local customs, etc.

So point of comparison looses importance as we are talking about two completely different and quite old civilizations. Hope you accept it.

BTW Happy New Year.
 
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Well you have other social evils. We can get into argument over comparison and it will become troll fest.

But just think about this without bias, did Global Times reported the entire situation. As mentioned by one of the poster, they didn't report, huge protests all around the country, youth on streets, candle light march, government forming a committee to amend the laws, asking PEOPLE's OPINION, yeah exactly, people's opinion about what they want as the punishment.

We can bash each other a lot but we shouldn't go away from the fact that indeed there are many problems for Indian women but also that Global Times did the cherry picking.

You can't ignore social structure, variation in languages, religion and related practices, local customs, etc.

So point of comparison looses importance as we are talking about two completely different and quite old civilizations. Hope you accept it.

BTW Happy New Year.
may these links help you,all from globle times.

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Well you have other social evils. We can get into argument over comparison and it will become troll fest.

But just think about this without bias, did Global Times reported the entire situation. As mentioned by one of the poster, they didn't report, huge protests all around the country, youth on streets, candle light march, government forming a committee to amend the laws, asking PEOPLE's OPINION, yeah exactly, people's opinion about what they want as the punishment.

We can bash each other a lot but we shouldn't go away from the fact that indeed there are many problems for Indian women but also that Global Times did the cherry picking.

You can't ignore social structure, variation in languages, religion and related practices, local customs, etc.

So point of comparison looses importance as we are talking about two completely different and quite old civilizations. Hope you accept it.

BTW Happy New Year.
may these links help you,all from globle times.

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globletimes.cn is the english site of huanqiu.com ,and it is not a window we Chinese get information from outside.so no need to report the details of accidents happened in other countries.however ,huanqiu.com is different,it informs the details.
 
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The site of Global Times, but no Chinese read English site in China, only play in Chinese site, only some read abroad English site. Just like you never read news in Chinese
Globaltimes.cn | Latest China, world news and business stories, comment from the Global Times

I can read the Chinese ones but its much easier for me to read the English version if there is one.

Reason why I requested for this is that I don't trust any news from any Indian newspapers or tabloids but there is usually an MO behind their journalistic style, take an factual news and quote it in their own words to sensationalize the issue and misrepresent issues.

Original article : Indian rape case shows lack of genuine equality - Globaltimes.cn

My guess is the Hindu took the article (which puts down India's democracy) and in a tit for tat move used various comments from certain sites and pieced together this story about China censoring the news about the rape among the Indian populace creating the usual lack of freedom totalitarian etc.

Then using this assumption
"By Sunday, however, the authorities appeared to move to limit the debate: on Monday, a search for the topic triggered a message on Sina Weibo – a popular Twitter-equivalent used by more than 300 million people – saying the results could not be displayed according to regulations. The message is usually seen as an indicator of a topic being censored by the authorities."

Assumed the CPC was censoring the stories about the rape in China, nothing wrong except the whole article is based on assumptions which does not appear to be the case since people in China are discussing about the issue (just not in English) and protest do happen in China.

Rape happens in every country not just India, instead of mudslinging each others nations which is what articles on both sides are doing we should really just focus on the matter at hand.
 
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