Still waiting for any British Pakistani to call himself an Indian.
In Britain, Bangladeshis have overtaken Pakistanis
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Still waiting for any British Pakistani to call himself an Indian.
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Well technically you are an Indian ever since our Indian bhabi drilled 'Akhand Bharat' into you !
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The report is riddled with assumptions, based upon circumstantial evidence such as GCSE grades.
Let's just examine some statements.
Schools in London have improved much more than schools elsewhere, partly because they get more government money but also because the best teachers want to work there.
This is one of the if not greatest reason behind Bangladeshi children doing well. The level of funding thrown at communities in Tower Hamlets is generous to the extreme.
its schools received almost 60% more resource per pupil than the national average and higher levels of resourcing than almost all other London boroughs.
From my colleagues at the IOE UCL.
The transformation of Tower Hamlets: how they did it | IOE LONDON BLOG
So not only have they received more funding than other parts of the UK but also more than any other London borough.
Pakistanis in London also benefit from the city’s improved schools; they do better there than in the rest of England. But research by Simon Burgess of the University of Bristol shows that geography does not explain the whole difference. Bangladeshis did better than Pakistanis both in London and outside the city in 2013.
They do benefit but the gaps in budget are large, as proved by the report I cited above. That about covers the education aspect.
The growing success of Bangladeshis appears odd because their living conditions are often so dismal. More than one-third live in social housing, compared with a national average of 18%.
This is actually a social barrier. I'm shocked to read the author regarding it is a positive. It's not.
Please see this report.
http://www.better-housing.org.uk/sites/default/files/briefings/downloads/Housing Briefing 23.pdf
In figure 3 Bangladeshi households are the second most overcrowded as an ethnic group, just behind Africans. Such conditions are detrimental for children and adults alike.
In figure 7 we see Bangladeshis have the second lowest home ownership amongst any ethnic group, aside Africans.
In the same figure Pakistanis have the third highest, just behind the Indian community.
This is perhaps one of the most important measures of economic wellbeing, especially in the UK. The ability to help your offspring to gain a foothold on the housing ladder is more important than it has ever been. Parents are able to use saved equity to help children with deposits, stamp duty and so forth. Bangladeshi parents living in social housing will not be able do this, therefore their children may have to resort to social housing, which is a generational issue now with the community. Yes it can be said that youngsters could do academically well and advance socially, but with present house prices even outstripping the salary earnings of very good occupations, this is harder than ever to do now.
And Yaojun Li, a sociologist at the University of Manchester, calculates that Bangladeshis’ average monthly household income, though still low, is now slightly higher than that of Pakistanis.
Having a keen interest in Maths, I'd like to see how she calculated this. The reason for my scepticism is that most published research shows the opposite.
From the site poverty.org.
It would be remarkable if the Bengali community has bridged the gap above in the space of five years. Bearing in mind that 2008 was also the start of the recession and a slowdown in the economy.
Some do (nationalist types). The bulk if questioned further firmly Identify with being Pakistani. You wouldn't be seeing this if they didn't.
Let's just examine some statements.
Schools in London have improved much more than schools elsewhere, partly because they get more government money but also because the best teachers want to work there.
This is one of the if not greatest reason behind Bangladeshi children doing well. The level of funding thrown at communities in Tower Hamlets is generous to the extreme.
its schools received almost 60% more resource per pupil than the national average and higher levels of resourcing than almost all other London boroughs.
From my colleagues at the IOE UCL.
The transformation of Tower Hamlets: how they did it | IOE LONDON BLOG
So not only have they received more funding than other parts of the UK but also more than any other London borough.
Pakistanis in London also benefit from the city’s improved schools; they do better there than in the rest of England. But research by Simon Burgess of the University of Bristol shows that geography does not explain the whole difference. Bangladeshis did better than Pakistanis both in London and outside the city in 2013.
They do benefit but the gaps in budget are large, as proved by the report I cited above. That about covers the education aspect.
The growing success of Bangladeshis appears odd because their living conditions are often so dismal. More than one-third live in social housing, compared with a national average of 18%.
This is actually a social barrier. I'm shocked to read the author regarding it is a positive. It's not.
Please see this report.
http://www.better-housing.org.uk/sites/default/files/briefings/downloads/Housing Briefing 23.pdf
In figure 3 Bangladeshi households are the second most overcrowded as an ethnic group, just behind Africans. Such conditions are detrimental for children and adults alike.
In figure 7 we see Bangladeshis have the second lowest home ownership amongst any ethnic group, aside Africans.
In the same figure Pakistanis have the third highest, just behind the Indian community.
This is perhaps one of the most important measures of economic wellbeing, especially in the UK. The ability to help your offspring to gain a foothold on the housing ladder is more important than it has ever been. Parents are able to use saved equity to help children with deposits, stamp duty and so forth. Bangladeshi parents living in social housing will not be able do this, therefore their children may have to resort to social housing, which is a generational issue now with the community. Yes it can be said that youngsters could do academically well and advance socially, but with present house prices even outstripping the salary earnings of very good occupations, this is harder than ever to do now.
And Yaojun Li, a sociologist at the University of Manchester, calculates that Bangladeshis’ average monthly household income, though still low, is now slightly higher than that of Pakistanis.
Having a keen interest in Maths, I'd like to see how she calculated this. The reason for my scepticism is that most published research shows the opposite.
From the site poverty.org.
It would be remarkable if the Bengali community has bridged the gap above in the space of five years. Bearing in mind that 2008 was also the start of the recession and a slowdown in the economy.
Some do (nationalist types). The bulk if questioned further firmly Identify with being Pakistani. You wouldn't be seeing this if they didn't.
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Apparently I have some of that type of family sitting in Canada. They are relatives far off.. but they forgot the difficulty with which we formed Pakistan and what Pakistan gave to us. Most Azad Kashmiris today call themselves Pakistani however
As a uk Bengali I think you should know that alot of Bengalis play the system. They own just as much houses as Pakistanis but rent them out while living in council houses on the cheap not telling the gov which is illegal.
Secondly most Pakistanis I've met (80%) are from Punjab, mainly Lahore, Rawalpindi, Gujar khan, gujranwala and jelum so why does everyone keep blaming mirpuris? Lol.
Secondly most Pakistanis I've met (80%) are from Punjab, mainly Lahore, Rawalpindi, Gujar khan, gujranwala and jelum so why does everyone keep blaming mirpuris? Lol.
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Do you live in London? The Pakistanis there are much more mixed compared to the ones up North and in the Midlands who are mainly Mirpuri.
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well
well when you call some one "****" the first thing comes to your mind is "terrorist" no offence-its could Double Meaning
When someone in Middle east calls you a "Hindi" its like the lowest of the lows, ask any one who lives in Middle east. the first thing when you hear a word "Hindi" pops up into your mind is a Black skinny short person from some low caste. Eww its like such an offensive word
Now tell me which is worse
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How they get away from hiding from UK gov something like house? I don't think its possible.
It's very easy in the uk trust me. A lot of people from uk will back me up on this
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Easier than eating ice-cream bro.
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