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Imran Khan’s dog kissing & breeding culture will not prevail in Pakistan – Saad Rafique

Still its IK's personal matter. Its God that decide the reward or punishment.

Islam forbids Muslims to keep dogs, and the punishment for that is that the one who does that loses one or two qiraats from his hasanaat (good deeds) each day. An exception has been made in the case of keeping dogs for hunting, guarding livestock and guarding crops.

This means, Pakistanis can't pick nawaz/family and zardari family or for the matter of fact 95% of parliamentarians almost all of them are haram acts like dogs/pigs.
 
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IK has attacked his politics, abuse of power for personal gains etc. Not his personal life.
Still its IK's personal matter. Its God that decide the reward or punishment.
may be you did not witness name calling and personal attacks and even ik get in heart of CM shabaz to give judgement that his photo shoot with floods victim is nothing but show off/drama bazi..why here dont leave it between God and CM ? Imran take judgement in his hand if you bother to look at his speeches then he is the one who give accusations as well as play the role of judge :D
 
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yaar why r u even bothering to answer Saad refique. Everyone knows he is barking on his master will .. Dnt care about these Gundas
 
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get in heart of CM shabaz to give judgement that his photo shoot with floods victim is nothing but show off/drama bazi..why here dont leave it between God and CM ?

Cause he has been doing the same since 90's. Its family politics of Noora to project their politics in front of camera and once the camera is turned off its all the same as before. Since renewal of sewerage systems is underground work and cannot be used as visual propaganda, they are rather using the money on infamous metro project, which also sunk in recent floods.
 
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IK should just challenge everyone in Parliament to a push up contest, whosoever does the most wins the challenge. We all know that rules Nawaz Shareef out for a start, God, I think I just solved the whole issue. Be right back, tweeting this idea to Imran Khan :P


Welcome back sir, nice to see you after a while.. :wave:
 
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IK should just challenge everyone in Parliament to a push up contest, whosoever does the most wins the challenge. We all know that rules Nawaz Shareef out for a start, God, I think I just solved the whole issue. Be right back, tweeting this idea to Imran Khan :P

What a devious idea!

A majority of the members will drop dead from heart attacks. :D
 
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Cause he has been doing the same since 90's. Its family politics of Noora to project their politics in front of camera and once the camera is turned off its all the same as before. Since renewal of sewerage systems is underground work and cannot be used as visual propaganda, they are rather using the money on infamous metro project, which also sunk in recent floods.
Its same for every other politicians because camera are with politicians no matter whether they go to data darbaar, flood victims or attend azaadi march and go anywhere else in public. Even their private acts are not saved from camera man. Imran cannot make such statement unless he know the real intentions of people...point was that imran openly call others liars beshram, and degrade them with different names and even do their parody so he should be the last one to complain about getting same treatment from others. You can oppose your opponents while maintaining decent language but here he need to learn how to be calm and mature
 
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Lol, Saad rafeeq has lost his mind. He has murder case on his head




His future is also dark in politics due to rigging issue. He became brainless due to this reason & barking like dog everywhere.
 
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Lol, Saad rafeeq has lost his mind. He has murder case on his head




His future is also dark in politics due to rigging issue. He became brainless due to this reason & barking like dog everywhere.

Saad Rafique is a terrorist. He threatened Qadri while he was in Canada. Then Model Town massacre happened in front of camera.
 
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I'd rather take dog kissing and breeding over terrorist *** kissing and terrorist breeding any-day. :woot:


Our national dog. Noora league, go suck eggs.



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Waisee leaving aside the Dog Kissing Breeding Culture comment !

Comparing anyone to the Quaid is improper - Quaid-e-Azam was God's gift to Pakistanis....no one....no one measures up to an iota of his Greatness !
The OP should have been more clear and straight forward, If one is criticizing imran khan for keeping pet dogs, he/she should also criticize Qaid-e-azam for such hobby.
 
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Contrast with this rant by an outraged American diplomat (event from the early 1980s, I think):

After reading my story about the dead monkey, an old colleague emailed me a nasty picture of two Pakistani boys beating a small puppy to death on a roadside. He wrote under it, "Remember?" I did remember the savagery with which Pakistanis treated animals, especially dogs. They showed no sympathy or empathy for the suffering of animals, and seemed to enjoy inflicting needless pain and death on them. This, of course, was also a society in which women were treated not much better than these animals.

I am not a vegetarian; I recognize the need for some testing of medicines and other products on animals; I eat meats and seafood of all kinds; I have hunted birds and mammals; I have had no problem pulling a weapon on threatening humans. I, however, hate cruelty and despise people who abuse animals or other humans just because they have the power to do so. That was a big problem I had in my service in Muslim countries; one had to turn a blind eye to the big and little savageries of daily life there. Those were quite common in Pakistan. One saw animals, children, and women beaten. I remember a crowd in Peshawar stoning a confused dog to death while children laughed and cheered. Our maid, a Christian widow with a young daughter, had been forced to undergo sterilization by her previous Muslim employer as a condition of her employment. He assumed Christian women were of loose morals, and didn't want her to get pregnant.

When we weren't in Peshawar, or I was on the road, we lived in a big, charmless concrete house in Islamabad. It had a high wall and a large yard. Our immediate neighbors were a Spanish family. The man of the house, Eliseo, worked for the US Embassy and was a superb engineer. He was helping build the new chancery. He barely had escaped with his life when the embassy was attacked. Trapped in his second floor office with a Pakistani employee when the mob set the building on fire, he decided to jump from the window into the screaming horde; his employee did not follow. Eliseo landed on his feet, and although breaking an ankle, he managed to act as though he were part of the attacking crowd. He gradually limped to the back of the mob, and got a ride on a motorcycle to his house. The employee left behind died from the smoke. That experience gave Eliseo a healthy skepticism about life in Pakistan.

Eliseo and I became hunting buddies, and enjoyed going out for boar and birds. He was a superb shot and knew all the good hunting spots. He was also an outstanding cook who could prepare game like nobody else I have ever met.

The Diplowife and I found and adopted a small, underfed, rather ragged puppy who appeared one morning at our gate. I barely stopped the guard from stomping the pup to death. He couldn't understand why we would want such a miserable looking thing. Well, we cleaned him up, and took him to a local veterinarian accustomed to crazy foreigners. The vet vaccinated the pup, and gave us other medicines for him. Our Christian maid cheerfully would cook him some meat and rice every day; our Muslim employees stayed away from him. We named him Kutta, Urdu for dog--not too original, I admit. After three weeks or so he was coming along nicely; he was turning into an affectionate little beast, following me around the cavernous house, ears flapping and tail wagging, and with that grim look of determination that puppies adopt as though they are going on a vital mission. I also enjoyed playing with him in the yard.

One day I was standing outside our gate talking to Eliseo. Our guard cracked the gate open to say something to me and, you guessed it, Kutta slipped out. He ran into the street as a small taxi cab was speeding by. The cab deliberately swerved to hit Kutta, and did so with a sickening thud, and then sped away. I can still see the driver and passengers laughing. Eliseo and I ran out into the street; I scooped up Kutta, but it was obvious the injuries were fatal. Kutta could not move his rear legs, and was coughing blood. I had my wife call the vet, but he wasn't home.

Eliseo said the obvious, "We can't let him suffer like this." I agreed. I went home, and got an old JC Higgins Model 88 .22 LR revolver I had owned since childhood. I loaded the thing and walked over to where Eliseo was comforting the dying Kutta. He stood up and made way for me. I crouched down, with my left hand grabbed Kutta by both ears, and with my right put the barrel of the revolver against the back of his small head. My hand began to shake uncontrollably. There was no way I could pull the trigger. I began to feel a powerful sensation of nausea. I looked up at Eliseo, and said to him in Spanish, "No lo puedo hacer" ("I can't do it"). Eliseo, himself fighting back tears, said, "Move, I'll do it." In what seemed one swift movement, he grabbed Kutta by the ears, put the revolver near the back of the puppy's head, and fired. Kutta died instantly. I threw up.

Eliseo gave me the revolver, which I stuffed into my belt. He helped me wrap up Kutta in an old towel. As I was burying Kutta in our yard, the guard came up to me and said, "You should have let me kill him when he first showed up." I glared at him, but successfully fought my urge to pull out the JC Higgins and empty it into his stupid smiling face. I don't think I would have thrown up.

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Which culture will prevail in Pakistan? That's a good question.
 
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Contrast with this rant by an outraged American diplomat (event from the early 1980s, I think):

After reading my story about the dead monkey, an old colleague emailed me a nasty picture of two Pakistani boys beating a small puppy to death on a roadside. He wrote under it, "Remember?" I did remember the savagery with which Pakistanis treated animals, especially dogs. They showed no sympathy or empathy for the suffering of animals, and seemed to enjoy inflicting needless pain and death on them. This, of course, was also a society in which women were treated not much better than these animals.

I am not a vegetarian; I recognize the need for some testing of medicines and other products on animals; I eat meats and seafood of all kinds; I have hunted birds and mammals; I have had no problem pulling a weapon on threatening humans. I, however, hate cruelty and despise people who abuse animals or other humans just because they have the power to do so. That was a big problem I had in my service in Muslim countries; one had to turn a blind eye to the big and little savageries of daily life there. Those were quite common in Pakistan. One saw animals, children, and women beaten. I remember a crowd in Peshawar stoning a confused dog to death while children laughed and cheered. Our maid, a Christian widow with a young daughter, had been forced to undergo sterilization by her previous Muslim employer as a condition of her employment. He assumed Christian women were of loose morals, and didn't want her to get pregnant.

When we weren't in Peshawar, or I was on the road, we lived in a big, charmless concrete house in Islamabad. It had a high wall and a large yard. Our immediate neighbors were a Spanish family. The man of the house, Eliseo, worked for the US Embassy and was a superb engineer. He was helping build the new chancery. He barely had escaped with his life when the embassy was attacked. Trapped in his second floor office with a Pakistani employee when the mob set the building on fire, he decided to jump from the window into the screaming horde; his employee did not follow. Eliseo landed on his feet, and although breaking an ankle, he managed to act as though he were part of the attacking crowd. He gradually limped to the back of the mob, and got a ride on a motorcycle to his house. The employee left behind died from the smoke. That experience gave Eliseo a healthy skepticism about life in Pakistan.

Eliseo and I became hunting buddies, and enjoyed going out for boar and birds. He was a superb shot and knew all the good hunting spots. He was also an outstanding cook who could prepare game like nobody else I have ever met.

The Diplowife and I found and adopted a small, underfed, rather ragged puppy who appeared one morning at our gate. I barely stopped the guard from stomping the pup to death. He couldn't understand why we would want such a miserable looking thing. Well, we cleaned him up, and took him to a local veterinarian accustomed to crazy foreigners. The vet vaccinated the pup, and gave us other medicines for him. Our Christian maid cheerfully would cook him some meat and rice every day; our Muslim employees stayed away from him. We named him Kutta, Urdu for dog--not too original, I admit. After three weeks or so he was coming along nicely; he was turning into an affectionate little beast, following me around the cavernous house, ears flapping and tail wagging, and with that grim look of determination that puppies adopt as though they are going on a vital mission. I also enjoyed playing with him in the yard.

One day I was standing outside our gate talking to Eliseo. Our guard cracked the gate open to say something to me and, you guessed it, Kutta slipped out. He ran into the street as a small taxi cab was speeding by. The cab deliberately swerved to hit Kutta, and did so with a sickening thud, and then sped away. I can still see the driver and passengers laughing. Eliseo and I ran out into the street; I scooped up Kutta, but it was obvious the injuries were fatal. Kutta could not move his rear legs, and was coughing blood. I had my wife call the vet, but he wasn't home.

Eliseo said the obvious, "We can't let him suffer like this." I agreed. I went home, and got an old JC Higgins Model 88 .22 LR revolver I had owned since childhood. I loaded the thing and walked over to where Eliseo was comforting the dying Kutta. He stood up and made way for me. I crouched down, with my left hand grabbed Kutta by both ears, and with my right put the barrel of the revolver against the back of his small head. My hand began to shake uncontrollably. There was no way I could pull the trigger. I began to feel a powerful sensation of nausea. I looked up at Eliseo, and said to him in Spanish, "No lo puedo hacer" ("I can't do it"). Eliseo, himself fighting back tears, said, "Move, I'll do it." In what seemed one swift movement, he grabbed Kutta by the ears, put the revolver near the back of the puppy's head, and fired. Kutta died instantly. I threw up.

Eliseo gave me the revolver, which I stuffed into my belt. He helped me wrap up Kutta in an old towel. As I was burying Kutta in our yard, the guard came up to me and said, "You should have let me kill him when he first showed up." I glared at him, but successfully fought my urge to pull out the JC Higgins and empty it into his stupid smiling face. I don't think I would have thrown up.

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Which culture will prevail in Pakistan? That's a good question.

I lived in Pakistan for the majority of my life.
I admit that Pakistanis don't care much about animals , especially dogs, but this story makes Pakistan look multiple times worse than it really is.

an old colleague emailed me a nasty picture of two Pakistani boys beating a small puppy to death on a roadside.
I could post dozens of pictures of Americans beating animals to death or forcing dogs to fight to death.

They showed no sympathy or empathy for the suffering of animals, and seemed to enjoy inflicting needless pain and death on them. This, of course, was also a society in which women were treated not much better than these animals.

Bullshit. Absolute bullshit.

He ran into the street as a small taxi cab was speeding by. The cab deliberately swerved to hit Kutta, and did so with a sickening thud, and then sped away. I can still see the driver and passengers laughing.

Why would they laugh? Why would they go out of their way to hit the dog? Never happened infront of me in my decades of life in Pakistan and I never heard of it happening either. I never heard anyone laughing about killing or hurting an animal (except lizards, everyone hates those and children sometimes go around shooting them with BB guns).

I had a German Shepherd there and I didn't keep him in a cage or anything and I took him on small walks regularly. Guess what? No one laughed at me, no one stoned him to death, no one said anything. They just stopped to look at him sometimes. And this wasn't a posh area either, it was a village.

People were actually interested in animals in Pakistan. There's a whole culture of animal breeders and they even have dog/cat shows and (perfectly humane) competitions. People used to talk to me about my pet GSD and admired his obedience.

I read the full story and the message it sends is that Pakistanis are all cruel sadistic bastards who enjoy killing animals and treat their women like animals. That's not true at all.

The women have problems and less independence than what you see in the west, mostly because of the family structure etc but they are in no way treated like animals. Women in the west have just as many problems though, don't pretend there's no domestic violence in America.
 
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